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How to handle my son's troubling far-right views and online influence

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TheCatCushions · 12/04/2026 11:46

DS (14) is extremely bright, highly intelligent and adhd/autistic. He has recently been coming out with troubling views about wanting the UK to be all white again like in the 1950s, he talks about immigration and closing our borders and stopping the boats etc and doodles pictures of Hitler with worrying slogans. He has admitted to saying certain things deliberately to shock but he genuinely believes that the UK should be all white and compares us to say, Zimbabwe remaining all black.

He has not been brought up to think like this and I am concerned that he is going down a rabbit hole online. I teach him the benefits of other cultures and how the UK has evolved, what it means to be British has changed over time and that we are now multicultural. Although he is highly intelligent, he is also very black and white in his thinking.

He also believes that we should go back to the 1940s where it comes to gender roles and women need to stay at home and men be the providers. He also talks about feminism meaning women that hate men. I try my best to gently correct these views and question why he believes this.

Does anyone have any advice on how to approach this? Thank you.

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Manxexile · 12/04/2026 16:25

Rather than taking the view of some others that you should question his "high intelligence" and that he clearly lacks insight and empathy you should simply challenge his views with facts and rational argument?

That might make more sense?

MoonstoneAura · 12/04/2026 16:21

Ficinothricegreat · 12/04/2026 16:12

And what “facts “ would you be using to correct him? Unfortunately that tactic will only drive him further into the arms of the far right. It’s likely he could argue very well against your “corrections”

You expect that he'll be able to argue 'very well' that Hitler was great and women belong in the kitchen? People on the thread have provided a lot of educational resources, I think the OP can go ahead and tell her 14 year old that Hitler was bad and his viewpoint terrible. Do you really think condemning him will drive children to the far-right and we have to tiptoe around Naziism as a result?!

Ficinothricegreat · 12/04/2026 16:21

Brettstale · 12/04/2026 13:45

Yeah you’re going to make yourself look stupid if you go in insisting Britain was a multicultural paradise in the 1950s, it wasn’t 100% white but it was 99%. At 14 he’s not dumb.
I remember being in school assembles on transgenders who identify as the opposite sex because they like pink and dresses or whatever.

Blaming social media only goes so far when kids are being told complete bullshit and they know it, the temptation to go the extreme other way as a teen is probably tempting kind of how punk rockers and goths rebelled against their religious parents.

I wonder if the kids with the edgy hitlerish views are more likely to have extreme liberal parents

This is very true, the pseudo liberalism so prevalent amongst the left is illogical bullshit that most ND people can see a mile off - the only option is to actually move a lot closer to the DSs perspective and slowly try and round off the edges

PerkingFaintly · 12/04/2026 16:18

Cornemuse · 12/04/2026 15:52

As I mentioned in my comment above, I would focus less on challenging your son's views (at least, for now) and more on getting him offline and finding him some in-person communities that have a higher-than-average cohort of other ASD folk. Once he finds a group of in-the-flesh friends and activities, it will be easier for you to pry him from his admiration of Hitler.

Also, do be careful about challenging his views unless you are absolutely certain of your facts. Several posters above have scoffed at the notion that Zimbabwe is "all black" but if you try that with your ASD son, he will lose respect for you as - factually - the country is AT LEAST 98% black African (depending on what source you believe, eg it could be up to 99.6% if you with the country's most recent Population and Housing Census). As mentioned in my comment above, this is an opportunity for BOTH of you to become better educated on these matters.

Or you could drop into conversation people like

the president of the International Olympic Committee Kirsty Coventry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirsty_Coventry

Zimbabwean cricketer Brendan Taylor
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Taylor

or the Mayor of Bulawayo, David Coltart
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Coltart

The reason those of us with connections with Zimbabwe are boggling at the claim that it's "all black" is that, apart from factually the country not being 100% of black African origin, white Zimbabweans still retain a lot of power and wealth and disproportionately occupy high-profile positions. So numerically they're a small minority but in impact they're a significant and visible part of the Zimbabwean population even in 2025.

David Coltart - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Coltart

Aluna · 12/04/2026 16:16

Mapletree1985 · 12/04/2026 15:58

Keep the channels of communication open. Don't attacks his ideas or try to show him why he's wrong. Just listen and ask questions. Kids try on all kinds of personas and ideologies at this age. My kid wanted to be a Muslim, went on about it for some months - until I made an appointment for him with the local imam to talk about converting. That made it real. He moved on to soccer and Model United Nations.

It’s perfectly ok to tell someone compassionately that they’re wrong, why they’re wrong and why their views are unacceptable. And the impact of these kind of views on other people.

This does not have to shut communication down, but shift the discussion.

Ficinothricegreat · 12/04/2026 16:12

cramptramp · 12/04/2026 15:44

I wouldn’t be gently correcting him. I’d correct him very firmly every time he spouts this stuff.

And what “facts “ would you be using to correct him? Unfortunately that tactic will only drive him further into the arms of the far right. It’s likely he could argue very well against your “corrections”

pusspuss9 · 12/04/2026 16:10

CharSiu · 12/04/2026 12:24

The rise of the right is a knee jerk reaction to immigration, it was pretty obvious this was going to happen way back when Blair didn’t put a number on Eastern European arrivals. I write this as the daughter of not white immigrants I sadly don’t know the answer and I can't hide my face.

But some teens do deliberately push against whatever their parents views are. Plus as you are I’m guessing a liberal minded sort then your kindness and tolerance has sort of worked against you. Western liberalism is part of the reason for the rise of the right all over Europe, people by and large never contemplate unintended consequences. Especially liberals and the left.

My children were raised with hardcore Asian parenting mixed with DH liberal attitudes. That in itself caused some issues between DH and I. Do not be messing with my culture because that’s what multiculturalism brings you. The lovely food but also the other bits that are bad in western eyes but you are all too nice to say anything because you worry you will be seen as racist.

The INCEL stuff has been coming for years as well. Women just do not need men like they used to and that’s great but it marginalising young men who know deep down they are not actually that great a catch. I do not blame feminism for this I celebrate it but it’s an unintended consequence again. Look to your older male relatives I bet loads of them wouldn’t do so well these days. No one would have married my FIL in this day and age as he was obnoxious and I have no idea how he managed to have such a great son, my DH. I am the last generation that was raised to feel you should marry.

Huge and rapid societal shifts in a small space of time it’s always going to marginalise some, dangerous times. You can try your natural soft approach or go super hardcore and remove stuff. I removed my DS gaming console because he refused to regulate the hours when he was a similar age. He hated me for that period and told me. Just prepare for yourself to be hated briefly. Embrace it and know you are doing the right thing.

absolutely spot on !

Aluna · 12/04/2026 16:09

Cornemuse · 12/04/2026 15:52

As I mentioned in my comment above, I would focus less on challenging your son's views (at least, for now) and more on getting him offline and finding him some in-person communities that have a higher-than-average cohort of other ASD folk. Once he finds a group of in-the-flesh friends and activities, it will be easier for you to pry him from his admiration of Hitler.

Also, do be careful about challenging his views unless you are absolutely certain of your facts. Several posters above have scoffed at the notion that Zimbabwe is "all black" but if you try that with your ASD son, he will lose respect for you as - factually - the country is AT LEAST 98% black African (depending on what source you believe, eg it could be up to 99.6% if you with the country's most recent Population and Housing Census). As mentioned in my comment above, this is an opportunity for BOTH of you to become better educated on these matters.

I think it’s less important to engage with point by point and more to get a conversation going about ultra-conservatism and toxic masculinity. He needs context to all this because he’s not aware of the bigger picture of what he’s being influenced by.

GreenCandleWax · 12/04/2026 16:09

TheCatCushions · 12/04/2026 11:46

DS (14) is extremely bright, highly intelligent and adhd/autistic. He has recently been coming out with troubling views about wanting the UK to be all white again like in the 1950s, he talks about immigration and closing our borders and stopping the boats etc and doodles pictures of Hitler with worrying slogans. He has admitted to saying certain things deliberately to shock but he genuinely believes that the UK should be all white and compares us to say, Zimbabwe remaining all black.

He has not been brought up to think like this and I am concerned that he is going down a rabbit hole online. I teach him the benefits of other cultures and how the UK has evolved, what it means to be British has changed over time and that we are now multicultural. Although he is highly intelligent, he is also very black and white in his thinking.

He also believes that we should go back to the 1940s where it comes to gender roles and women need to stay at home and men be the providers. He also talks about feminism meaning women that hate men. I try my best to gently correct these views and question why he believes this.

Does anyone have any advice on how to approach this? Thank you.

Stop being "gentle" as you correct him, and read him the Riot Act instead. Have some strong principles and state them clearly, and tell him in no uncertain terms that his views are completely unacceptable. At least he would know where he stands in relation to you. It might be the wake-up call he needs. He sounds confused, and you are not currently helping him.

Mapletree1985 · 12/04/2026 15:58

Keep the channels of communication open. Don't attacks his ideas or try to show him why he's wrong. Just listen and ask questions. Kids try on all kinds of personas and ideologies at this age. My kid wanted to be a Muslim, went on about it for some months - until I made an appointment for him with the local imam to talk about converting. That made it real. He moved on to soccer and Model United Nations.

Cornemuse · 12/04/2026 15:52

As I mentioned in my comment above, I would focus less on challenging your son's views (at least, for now) and more on getting him offline and finding him some in-person communities that have a higher-than-average cohort of other ASD folk. Once he finds a group of in-the-flesh friends and activities, it will be easier for you to pry him from his admiration of Hitler.

Also, do be careful about challenging his views unless you are absolutely certain of your facts. Several posters above have scoffed at the notion that Zimbabwe is "all black" but if you try that with your ASD son, he will lose respect for you as - factually - the country is AT LEAST 98% black African (depending on what source you believe, eg it could be up to 99.6% if you with the country's most recent Population and Housing Census). As mentioned in my comment above, this is an opportunity for BOTH of you to become better educated on these matters.

likeafishneedsabike · 12/04/2026 15:52

OP, I just read this to DS of a similar age.
His response?
‘Bro needs to get off TikTok immediately’.
Maybe telling.

BoogieTownTop · 12/04/2026 15:45

ThreeB · 12/04/2026 11:49

I think the first thing you need to do is remove any access to social media/internet. His algorithyms will now be reinforcing this messaging and he needs to be completely away from these views.

This is the problem!

cramptramp · 12/04/2026 15:44

I wouldn’t be gently correcting him. I’d correct him very firmly every time he spouts this stuff.

Tumbler2121 · 12/04/2026 15:44

As others have suggested your son has a very narrow idea of Britain in the past. In the first half of the 1940s there a war on .... women went to work on the land, in the factories and the forces.

About his white supremacy thinking ... would you consider having a DNA test on him done? It may shut him up a bit if he finds out that he's various percentages of other races!

EarthlyNightshade · 12/04/2026 15:44

Treadcarefully11 · 12/04/2026 15:22

Do you also speak to him about the dangers of socialism and the far left that are becoming more prevalent?

Where is this happening?
What about it is dangerous?

(I also have a son with some far right views so am reading the thread with interest.)

whatifs1 · 12/04/2026 15:41

Could you try and get some advice from the PREVENT initiative?

Fishneedscycle · 12/04/2026 15:39

Also can I make the point that most black and Asian British people who came to the UK post WW2 were not immigrants as they came from countries that were, at the time of their birth, controlled by the British empire. The rules changed and are quite complex, but, depending on date of birth and status of the country, people were either British subjects or British citizens.

MoonstoneAura · 12/04/2026 15:37

RiceBubbless · 12/04/2026 15:25

Agree with this an several other posters about history. A professional historian here - most women worked throughout history. In the 1940s women were running the factories and farms in wartime. The industrial revolution, millions of women in factories ( and their kids) go back further craft working and farming was a family endeavour, women had to work to make it all work. Of course rich women didn't work. But the didn't do house work either. And the men didn't work either. Women keeping house and men providing was was a very short window for middle class only. Other points on empire and keeping Britian white has already been made. His history knowledge is very poor. Push book reading.

And on your last point, he could start with Jane Eyre, a classic novel about a young working woman written by one of the three Bronte sisters who all worked in the 1800s as teachers, governesses and of course bestselling authors whose works have become highly influential and respected, appearing on exam syllabuses and reading lists everywhere. Maybe that would help him realise that a woman's place is not barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen!

Snorlaxo · 12/04/2026 15:36

TheCatCushions · 12/04/2026 13:19

I am also concerned about the views of some of his friends in school, he mentioned the other day how his friend wanted to have 10 children, I said wow! That’s a lot of children! He said his friend wanted to have that many to up the percentage of white people. It’s very worrying and not as simple as taking away his own devices as he has access to his friends phones when in their houses and at school. I will be speaking to his school though for advice.

If he’s very logical as many with ASD are, is it worth diffusing with comments like “I’ve never seen an 11 bedroom house on Rightmove” (as a “traditional husband” he’d obviously live with the kids and want them kids to have their own rooms with luxuries like game consoles) Ask him how many kids could fit in a car to go to school as dad will be at work so can’t do the school run etc. Someone with 10 kids wouldn’t get time to see friends, game etc as the kids needed parenting after work and he’d have to pa for cleaners, nannies and other help. The boy would have to be on a professional footballer’s salary to afford all that. If ds has his own room ask him how he’d feel about sharing a room with 3 or 4 siblings and having things like gaming time on a rota because there’s not enough space for everyone. Hopefully he can start to guess that giving your children is a good quality of life is often a deciding factor when choosing how many kids.

Wouldn’t ds prefer driving a sports car and having a life where he could do what he wanted? (the sports car thing is because it’s a sign of success in the manosphere but you’ll know if there’s a better suggestion like going on holiday 5 times a year or whatever)

viques · 12/04/2026 15:35

If he loves history then you should start educating him about the history of the UK as a multicultural society. Does he know for example that black people have lived in the UK since at least Roman times? Does he know about the history of areas such as Bethnal Green in London, where immigrants have lived since the 17 th Century, starting with Huguenot refugees, followed by Jewish refugees fleeing from Russian and the Baltic states, with Bengali and Somali communities also established there in recent years.

If you can search out a book called The Peopling of London, it gives an amazing history of how a multicultural society evolves. If he really thinks that the UK was a whites only country in the 1950s then he isn’t as smart as he thinks he is.

And yes, get him of the internet, it is only feeding his ignorance.

Ficinothricegreat · 12/04/2026 15:31

The issue is, is that there is a massive problem with immigration, anyone with any amount of critical thinking can see this, however if people are faced with denial they will find people who also recognise the issue. Unfortunately the loudest on SM sell wholesale far right views and use an obvious problem to drag people into their ideology. Your son probably already feels “othered” with his ND so feeling not heard with his views he will be glad to find others that make him feel heard. Speaking as someone with autism, you do sad pens much of your time mimicking the social interaction of those round you with little understanding of nuance once you identify a group you want to be part of and you take things at face value.

I would say it’s important to remove him from SM, but you need some acceptance of his views by getting him to logically interact in discussions about them with more middle of the road views (don’t try and get him to interact with anyone with left views, maybe less extreme right wing views. It’s unlikely that he will be persuaded to move left, but that’s fine. If you speak with school about this it’s really important to make sure their views aren’t too left wing from the off as it will be too unsettling

HazelMember · 12/04/2026 15:29

@TheCatCushions
He also believes that we should go back to the 1940s where it comes to gender roles and women need to stay at home and men be the providers.

How do you respond to this?