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AIBU to think a good involved father is better?

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RunAwayWithMeeee · 11/04/2026 19:14

I've come across something recently and I’m interested in other people’s perspectives.

I follow a single dad on social media who seems very involved 50/50 care (not court ordered), Good father, holidays, days out, clearly a big presence in his child’s life. It made me feel quite sad about my own situation, as my children’s dad hasn’t seen them in 3 years.

But when I mentioned this, I was surprised by how many women said they would actually prefer an absent father over an involved one like that.

Just to be clear I’m not talking about abusive or unsafe situations, as that’s obviously completely different. I mean genuinely good, loving, consistent dads. The reasons they gave weren't related to safety and was more about not wanting to miss out on time with their children. Obviously absent is better than abusive but that’s not what we are talking about here.

I think I’m struggling to understand it because my instinct is that a positive, present parent is a best for a child, however you may feel about not wanting to spend time away from them.

Is it more about the realities of co-parenting that can come with having an ex in your life?
I do wonder whether sometimes, after a breakup, some people quietly hope for no involvement from their ex because it feels emotionally or practically easier even if the parent themselves is a good one?

I’ll be honest, part of me also wonders whether wider expectations or assumptions around fathers can be quite negative, and whether that affects how involvement is perceived but I’m open to being wrong on that.

Just genuinely interested in how others see it.

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RunAwayWithMeeee · 11/04/2026 19:40

These were not friends.. and it wasnt to make me feel better

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LittleMissClutter · 11/04/2026 19:39

ZoeCM · 11/04/2026 19:28

You'd have to be incredibly selfish to actively want your children to be abandoned by their father rarely than cared for by him.

Absolutely.

None of the women the OP speaks about are putting their DC first.

5128gap · 11/04/2026 19:37

I think your friends are likely choosing to focus on the positives of their situations. If their exes are not involved then what can they do but crack on and focus on the advantages of that? Because what's really sad is that men get to choose don't they?
They pick what they fancy from 50/50 to nothing at all, and women deal with what they decide. And I don't think some women saying (perhaps truthfully, possibly whistling in the dark) they wouldn't want 50/50 has the slightest impact on whether men deign to do 50/50 or not. They do as they choose.

RunAwayWithMeeee · 11/04/2026 19:34

ZoeCM · 11/04/2026 19:28

You'd have to be incredibly selfish to actively want your children to be abandoned by their father rarely than cared for by him.

Sadly some people are. I honestly don’t get it. Donors are an option then you don’t have to ‘share’

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ZoeCM · 11/04/2026 19:28

You'd have to be incredibly selfish to actively want your children to be abandoned by their father rarely than cared for by him.

RunAwayWithMeeee · 11/04/2026 19:26

Classiclines · 11/04/2026 19:25

I think an involved Dad is a good thing.

But I would be sceptical about one who posts on Social media about how involved he is in his DC's lives. It sounds performative. I would have respect for a Dad who got on with concentrating on his DC without feeling the need to advertise the fact.

It’s just a content creator so it’s basically his job! Mum also has a SM page

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Classiclines · 11/04/2026 19:25

I think an involved Dad is a good thing.

But I would be sceptical about one who posts on Social media about how involved he is in his DC's lives. It sounds performative. I would have respect for a Dad who got on with concentrating on his DC without feeling the need to advertise the fact.

RunAwayWithMeeee · 11/04/2026 19:24

Chocaholick · 11/04/2026 19:23

That’s not my experience at all. I know a lot of single mums at breaking point caring 24/7 for small kids while also working and providing. They’re desperate for a proper break and would love to be able to send their kids away for even a night or two every other weekend.

In virtually all of the cases the man has left ‘because he can’t cope with family life’ type reasons, before settling down and creating a second family with a new woman.

Some people do feel this way see previous comments

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Chocaholick · 11/04/2026 19:23

That’s not my experience at all. I know a lot of single mums at breaking point caring 24/7 for small kids while also working and providing. They’re desperate for a proper break and would love to be able to send their kids away for even a night or two every other weekend.

In virtually all of the cases the man has left ‘because he can’t cope with family life’ type reasons, before settling down and creating a second family with a new woman.

Everlil · 11/04/2026 19:21

I haven’t had experience of this, but I imagine when you break up from a family unit it can feel quite lonely. The weekends you used to spend going out as a fun family might feel empty on your own, imagining your child having fun without you and possibly another adult (ex’s partner) could feel hurtful if you were in your own. Friends might be doing their own family things on the weekend, so it could feel like you have nobody, especially if you don’t like your own company. Most would like their child to be happy, but it could be hard thinking their child was happy without them. It could be construed as irrational and selfish, but aren’t we all a little bit?

RunAwayWithMeeee · 11/04/2026 19:21

That’s interesting, thanks for your comment I do think a lot of women would rather an absent father for their children even if he was a good father, more than would admit. So thanks for being honest.

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CharlotteSometimeslikesanafternoonnap · 11/04/2026 19:19

I was happier not having my ex involved because the breakdown of our marriage was not my choice and I would have been devastated to have lost time with my DD. I also hate the double standards around single parenting. I took my DD swimming/on holiday/put a roof over her head and food on the table - whatever. Single dad does it? Fucking champion of champions.

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