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Sleeping arrangements at mum's have caused offence.

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Trallers · 11/04/2026 17:02

This happened recently and I've unfortunately caused offence. I am wondering if others would feel the same or if it's me being excessively cautious. I strongly suspect the former though!

I live a several hours from my mum so all visits involve overnights. The most recent time we (me plus DH and 2 DC) went to stay she had a new boyfriend who she had met online and he had semi-moved in. He does own his own place but staying at hers/his for chunks or time means they can spend more time together. I'd known about him for the months preceding but had never met him until our visit. The offence was caused re sleeping arrangements. She has 5 bedrooms. There is one huge bedroom with an ensuite to the right when you get to the top of the stairs (it's one of those split staircases where it branches right and left) and me and DH normally stay here. To the left are four more bedrooms and a main bathroom. Sometimes the children stay in wirh us in the big room but more recently they've been.using the other bedrooms and sleeping nearer to Nan.

On this occasion I said they'd sleep with us. My reasoning was the random man who'd be using the same bathroom and sleeping near my kids, a way from us. I had no reason to suspect him of anything, it's just that I had never met him. My mum had only known him for a year, and part of that was online chat. I said nothing of this to her, just said I thought we'd all sleep in the big room this time if that was OK. She said it was, but then pushed me later when the visit was nearly over. I ended up saying that I'd just be more comfortable having them sleep away from us once I'd got to know him myself, that I was probably being silly (although i dont think i was) but I just wanted to be super cautious etc. And now she's very unhappy with me for thinking of him that way which I find a bit rich. We don't know him, don't expect us to behave like we do! We've been nice to him, included him in everything and in conversations. It's just the sleeping arrangements that I was firm about and that's caused great offence.

How would others feel?

OP posts:
littleorangefox · 12/04/2026 06:52

Kierentc · 12/04/2026 02:42

This is inaccurate. The disclosure scheme is exactly for checking out new people in your, or your DCs lives. They don’t have to have done anything to justify you wanting to know. Otherwise all the lovely domestic abusers who don’t show their true colours until they’ve reeled you in wouldn’t qualify until he’d maybe battered you for the first time. Bit late then.

So while you can’t check out creepy Geoffrey over the road because he gives you the ick, you can if he is going to become your DCs new grandfather

It’s up to the police to decide if seeing the DC a few times a year fulfills this criteria but it’s worth asking. Obviously it’s still not foolproof and I wouldn’t take a lack of disclosure as meaning a patent can totally relax.

I’m astonished at the posters saying the OP should have told a white lie about the DC being unsettled or giving her space just to save her mother’s feelings. If she can’t see this is not about insulting the integrity of her OH but about safeguarding her own DGC then she’s a very silly woman. He may be a lovely man but I’d never assume because he doesn’t give off pedo vibes (whatever they may be)

That's not what I've been informed or what I see when I research it. There has to be sufficient reason for concern. The police will ask for details on why the application is being made and why the applicant believes the person may be a danger. "Just in case because they're a new person in their lives" isn't considered sufficient reason.

BoogieTownTop · 12/04/2026 06:45

You did nothing wrong!

EvieBB · 12/04/2026 06:43

themidnightmoon76 · 11/04/2026 17:30

I would have you you were worrying over nothing, until my mums boyfriend of 6 years climbed into bed naked with me one night. Apparently it was an accident....

😨

EvieBB · 12/04/2026 06:40

Trallers · 11/04/2026 17:02

This happened recently and I've unfortunately caused offence. I am wondering if others would feel the same or if it's me being excessively cautious. I strongly suspect the former though!

I live a several hours from my mum so all visits involve overnights. The most recent time we (me plus DH and 2 DC) went to stay she had a new boyfriend who she had met online and he had semi-moved in. He does own his own place but staying at hers/his for chunks or time means they can spend more time together. I'd known about him for the months preceding but had never met him until our visit. The offence was caused re sleeping arrangements. She has 5 bedrooms. There is one huge bedroom with an ensuite to the right when you get to the top of the stairs (it's one of those split staircases where it branches right and left) and me and DH normally stay here. To the left are four more bedrooms and a main bathroom. Sometimes the children stay in wirh us in the big room but more recently they've been.using the other bedrooms and sleeping nearer to Nan.

On this occasion I said they'd sleep with us. My reasoning was the random man who'd be using the same bathroom and sleeping near my kids, a way from us. I had no reason to suspect him of anything, it's just that I had never met him. My mum had only known him for a year, and part of that was online chat. I said nothing of this to her, just said I thought we'd all sleep in the big room this time if that was OK. She said it was, but then pushed me later when the visit was nearly over. I ended up saying that I'd just be more comfortable having them sleep away from us once I'd got to know him myself, that I was probably being silly (although i dont think i was) but I just wanted to be super cautious etc. And now she's very unhappy with me for thinking of him that way which I find a bit rich. We don't know him, don't expect us to behave like we do! We've been nice to him, included him in everything and in conversations. It's just the sleeping arrangements that I was firm about and that's caused great offence.

How would others feel?

YANBU and you absolutely have the right to choose what feels best for you and your DCs without being made to feel guilty.

Posner · 12/04/2026 06:38

SummerFrog2026 · 12/04/2026 00:58

Why on earth not?

Travelling a few hours with young children for a rare visit to my mum - and mum thinks ideal time for her new boyfriend to be there too? Nah, I’ll pass thanks

PinkLeopard8 · 12/04/2026 05:22

Totally reasonable. I had a different but slightly similar situation some years ago that some family members still have resentment with me over.
My two very young daughters traveled 4.5 hours to stay with their aunty and cousin for the first time and it wasn't until they got home that I heard about 'uncle Rob' who had been there throughout their entire holiday, reading them their bedtime stories, taking them to the theme park, etc etc.
My aunt had introduced them to her boyfriend that I didn't even know existed, and when I expressed how hurtful and alarming that was, I got tons of abuse from both of her parents, my grandparents calling g me a monster for suggesting her lovely partner is a pedo (which I never did.)

They went on to have a child of their own and get married and he does seem like a great guy. I have never left my kids with her again though, despite them having a fab time, nor with my grandparents, because such a stunning lack of being able to put your own opinions out of the way and put the needs of a child first shows me all I need to know.

VioletsAreBlue33934 · 12/04/2026 03:32

I'm confused by SO MANY responses here saying you should not have been honest with your mother. WTF.

What kind of sad families do some people have where you cannot be honest with your own mother about your feelings about the safety of your children. In my eyes, that is a cold, damaged relationship.

And frankly, she SHOULD be confronted with the reality of the situation SHE caused. She didn't need to have him overnight that night.

Kierentc · 12/04/2026 02:42

littleorangefox · 11/04/2026 20:45

I see several people mentioning carrying out Clare's or Sarah's Law checks (and this is said a lot on Mumsnet) and just wanted to say that while I know the intention is to genuinely try and be helpful, this kind of situation isn’t what those are designed for. If someone has specific concerns such as worrying or alarming behaviour, specific incidents occurring or a gut feeling which is backed by concrete evidence not just a suspicion then they can ask the police to check whether a person has a relevant history of abuse, violence or sexual offences. It’s not intended as a general background checking service for every new partner or person in someone's life.

In the case of the OP, I agree with the decision they made entirely and would have done the same.

Edited

This is inaccurate. The disclosure scheme is exactly for checking out new people in your, or your DCs lives. They don’t have to have done anything to justify you wanting to know. Otherwise all the lovely domestic abusers who don’t show their true colours until they’ve reeled you in wouldn’t qualify until he’d maybe battered you for the first time. Bit late then.

So while you can’t check out creepy Geoffrey over the road because he gives you the ick, you can if he is going to become your DCs new grandfather

It’s up to the police to decide if seeing the DC a few times a year fulfills this criteria but it’s worth asking. Obviously it’s still not foolproof and I wouldn’t take a lack of disclosure as meaning a patent can totally relax.

I’m astonished at the posters saying the OP should have told a white lie about the DC being unsettled or giving her space just to save her mother’s feelings. If she can’t see this is not about insulting the integrity of her OH but about safeguarding her own DGC then she’s a very silly woman. He may be a lovely man but I’d never assume because he doesn’t give off pedo vibes (whatever they may be)

SummerFrog2026 · 12/04/2026 00:58

Overthebow · 11/04/2026 17:16

You were right, however I wouldn’t have stayed at all with a man I didn’t know staying there.

Edited

Why on earth not?

Paperpensanddustmotes · 12/04/2026 00:50

Bubble567 · 12/04/2026 00:40

It seems I'm going against the grain here but I would trust my mum's judgement and not worry about it, why does everyone assume everyone is an abuser these days? My mum is a good judge of character though so maybe that makes a difference and I know she wouldn't put her own grandchildren at risk and would have got to know the person well enough before inviting her family stay whilst he's there.

See the tricky thing is, my mum would have said exactly the same as you about her mother. I stopped over all the time and we had a great relationship.

Then she got into a relationship with someone she'd known for years and she thought was a great guy. Who then groomed and sexually abused me when I was 10-11 years old and convinced her I was jealous/confused/lying for her attention which meant she wouldn't testify in court and he got a lesser sentence.

You always think it only happens to 'other people' until it destroys your family.

Paperpensanddustmotes · 12/04/2026 00:43

As a person who was groomed and sexually abused by the male partner of my grandmother, who she'd known for years before they entered a relationship, you are 100000% right to be cautious.

Bubble567 · 12/04/2026 00:40

It seems I'm going against the grain here but I would trust my mum's judgement and not worry about it, why does everyone assume everyone is an abuser these days? My mum is a good judge of character though so maybe that makes a difference and I know she wouldn't put her own grandchildren at risk and would have got to know the person well enough before inviting her family stay whilst he's there.

CatJump · 11/04/2026 23:46

mugglewump · 11/04/2026 21:03

YABU - you have effectively told your mother you do not trust her judgement and think you are a better judge of character than she is.

How would her mum know? Predators dont announce it. Theres risk with any adults, but non blood relations (ie you havent grown up with them and seen that they didnt try it with you) are a higher risk.
It is a depressingly high amount of men who are predators, and they are often the nice men who seem to be great with children...

3luckystars · 11/04/2026 23:27

Your mother makes bad decisions, don’t trust her.

Trust yourself.

Calendulaaria · 11/04/2026 23:23

Well done for being cautious with your children. Too many people override their inner caution just to avoid offending others. There's nothing more important than protecting children. Let people be offended!! I don't care if it's family or anyone else.

littleorangefox · 11/04/2026 23:09

bigboykitty · 11/04/2026 23:02

People are not necessarily saying OP's mum should do these checks. They are saying that without them she definitely cannot say with any certainty that her new partner is safe around children.

The general gist of it to me was that they were suggesting it as an option. It happens a lot on Mumsnet. I just thought I would point out that it can't be used as a general background check and should only be requested if there is actual evidence and genuine concern not just curiosity. I see it so often on here.

Isthisthisreallife · 11/04/2026 23:03

Totally with you on this and you did the right thing. I have a similar situation with my mum and her partner.

bigboykitty · 11/04/2026 23:02

littleorangefox · 11/04/2026 20:45

I see several people mentioning carrying out Clare's or Sarah's Law checks (and this is said a lot on Mumsnet) and just wanted to say that while I know the intention is to genuinely try and be helpful, this kind of situation isn’t what those are designed for. If someone has specific concerns such as worrying or alarming behaviour, specific incidents occurring or a gut feeling which is backed by concrete evidence not just a suspicion then they can ask the police to check whether a person has a relevant history of abuse, violence or sexual offences. It’s not intended as a general background checking service for every new partner or person in someone's life.

In the case of the OP, I agree with the decision they made entirely and would have done the same.

Edited

People are not necessarily saying OP's mum should do these checks. They are saying that without them she definitely cannot say with any certainty that her new partner is safe around children.

Franjipanl8r · 11/04/2026 23:00

Bit odd that he was invited to stay over at the same time as you anyway. I’d be annoyed at my mum for that. Her being offended is bonkers.

LBFseBrom · 11/04/2026 22:33

Dexternight · 11/04/2026 22:17

If the man was decent he would never had stayed and given you respect and space.

That's a good point, I hadn't thought of it.
I'm surprised he didn't feel awkward staying over while you were there.

MyLuckyHelper · 11/04/2026 22:27

I think you’re completely right.

i had a similar ish situation when my DD was invited to a sleepover at her best friends house. Her mum and I are very close and I had no issues with her sleeping there…but she decided to allow her VERY new boyfriend to sleep the same night. She’s usually incredibly strait laced and was recently divorced at the time. I had absolutely no only whatsoever that he would be there until I picked DD up in the morning. I was livid, mostly because she didn’t mention it at all so I had no option to safeguard my child in the way I saw fit. I told her and she was similarly offended that I’d think that of her new partner and also felt I was accusing her of not taking the children’s safety seriously.

as background my eldest daughter was sexually abused by her best friends dad so it’s not an abstract concept to me & something I feel very passionately about, which I think she knows really and was possibly why she didn’t mention it.

Dexternight · 11/04/2026 22:17

If the man was decent he would never had stayed and given you respect and space.

abbynabby23 · 11/04/2026 22:13

Trallers · 11/04/2026 17:02

This happened recently and I've unfortunately caused offence. I am wondering if others would feel the same or if it's me being excessively cautious. I strongly suspect the former though!

I live a several hours from my mum so all visits involve overnights. The most recent time we (me plus DH and 2 DC) went to stay she had a new boyfriend who she had met online and he had semi-moved in. He does own his own place but staying at hers/his for chunks or time means they can spend more time together. I'd known about him for the months preceding but had never met him until our visit. The offence was caused re sleeping arrangements. She has 5 bedrooms. There is one huge bedroom with an ensuite to the right when you get to the top of the stairs (it's one of those split staircases where it branches right and left) and me and DH normally stay here. To the left are four more bedrooms and a main bathroom. Sometimes the children stay in wirh us in the big room but more recently they've been.using the other bedrooms and sleeping nearer to Nan.

On this occasion I said they'd sleep with us. My reasoning was the random man who'd be using the same bathroom and sleeping near my kids, a way from us. I had no reason to suspect him of anything, it's just that I had never met him. My mum had only known him for a year, and part of that was online chat. I said nothing of this to her, just said I thought we'd all sleep in the big room this time if that was OK. She said it was, but then pushed me later when the visit was nearly over. I ended up saying that I'd just be more comfortable having them sleep away from us once I'd got to know him myself, that I was probably being silly (although i dont think i was) but I just wanted to be super cautious etc. And now she's very unhappy with me for thinking of him that way which I find a bit rich. We don't know him, don't expect us to behave like we do! We've been nice to him, included him in everything and in conversations. It's just the sleeping arrangements that I was firm about and that's caused great offence.

How would others feel?

I completely understand where you’re coming from, but if they’ve been together for a year, I would consider that long enough—especially since you were also staying in the same house. If it were a boyfriend she met a month ago, or if I were sending my kids to a sleepover without being there, I would be more worried. Now that you’ve gotten to know him a little bit, do you feel more comfortable?

AnneShirleyBlythe · 11/04/2026 22:11

mindutopia · 11/04/2026 17:14

I wouldn’t even spend the night at someone’s house with my children with a random man I didn’t know also staying. Surely, you only visit a few times a year if this was the first time you’ve met him. They could forgo the love fest for one weekend so she could focus on her grandchildren, right?

Cautionary tale, my mum had a boyfriend (now husband) that she met online dating. I always found him a bit weird, but couldn’t put my finger on exactly why. His children were NC with him and he doesn’t have any friends. We live far from each other though, so didn’t spend loads of time with him. I never allowed them to sleep in the same place as my dc. When she visited alone, she stayed with us. When they visited us together, they got a holiday let.

Found out several years in that he was convicted of sexually abusing his daughter, hence why all his children are NC with him.

Now this absolutely does not mean this guy is some creepy paedo. Of course, not all men are. But you are 100% right to trust what feels safest in your gut. Anyone who is truly above board and respecting your boundaries would take no offence to that.

Edited

Omg! Dis your mum marry him before she found out he was a child sex offender? Are they still together? Do you have a relationship with them?
OP- you were right to keep your kids close when a stranger is there overnight. Your mum is wrong to be offended. I probably wouldn’t stay in her house tbh.

Helpwithdivorce · 11/04/2026 22:05

Personally I don’t feel it was appropriate for him to be there at all. But if she wanted you to meet him then he should have come for dinner and gone back to his own house. No need for him to stay. I would have done the same as you. Actually I’d have probably booked a hotel