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AIBU not to let my mum come and 'help' when the baby is born?

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SarahAndQuack · 11/04/2026 07:40

I'm not being unreasonable, am I? I

I'm 7 months pregnant, single mum by choice. I do not have an enormous support network but I do have multiple friends/family members who've offered help in the immediate period after the baby is born. My mum, who is 70, keeps steamrollering me with insistance she will come up to 'look after' me. I have repeatedly said while I understand she'd love to come and see the baby, I do not need or want her to come to look after me. I think we have hit crunch time.

I have a difficult relationship with my mum, who is pretty awful to me; it is (very, very partially) redeemed by the fact that when my ex (female) was pregnant with DD (9) and when DD was tiny, she was surprisingly thoughtful and good. A year ago, we arranged to go on holiday together. We've just got back, and woah, was it a mistake. I was apprenehsive because both my brothers had had incidents of our parents badly overstepping with their children this past year. This holiday made me feel I really don't want either parent (but it'd be my mum) around immediately after the baby is born, because if this holiday is anything to go by, she thinks 'looking after me' would be carte blanche to be an absolute controlling nightmare. Reasons (minor and grating to more major):

There is a constant, low-level undermining. Some of this is framed as jokes and some of it as flares of temper, but it's never excused. Examples of jokes would be, I mentioned in passing that my NCT group had been talking about our different careers and someone commented on an aspect of mine, and my mum instantly giggled and said 'be careful - they might believe you really do that job!' They've started doing it with my daughter too - big grins while they tell her how naughty she is or what a pain she is, and while it sounds as if it could be family banter, it's done in a way that isn't funny, and when I tell them so (repeatedly), they take no notice.

There are moments when they are disproportionately angry to be contradicted. Eg., we went round a museum with my DD. She was excited by part of it and wanted to dash and look, and my dad wanted to read and explain every display to her (she can read). I said, thinking it was no big deal, 'it doesn't matter if she doesn't understand everything'. My mum snapped, furiously, 'yes, it does matter!' They really wanted to explain everything to her in detail and were genuinely offended that she was interested in working things out for herself. I have memories of them doing this when I was a child and it was deadly dull - we'd spend hours while they tediously extracted every grain of what they considered to be educational content from an experience, with no interest in seeing what I thought of it. I let DD do her own thing and they were manifestly seething about it - it wasn't just a minor annoyance to be brushed off. This sort of thing happened repeatedly, whenever DD or I wanted to do something slightly different from what they imagined was 'right,' even if it was getting a drink for a tired child or me saying I didn't want to walk further.

During the holiday, my lovely neighbour rang to say our cat had been hit by a car; she was taking it to the emergency vets. DD was understandably upset (so was I!), and we got an awkward 'sorry' from my parents who then began discussing the way rabbits zig-zagged over the road in front of their car (?!). Neighbour subsequently rang to say the cat had died at the vet's; my parents saw me take this call and didn't react. A couple of days later I commented to my mum that DD was finding it hard, and my mum said in surprise 'oh, did the cat die?' and then moved on. In the car, they nearly hit a pheasant and started a conversation about they're silly birds and I wonder why they get hit so often? I had to tell them to stop, and again, they were totally surprised it might be upsetting or inappropriate.

The last straw was my mum suddenly asked if she was insured to drive my car (I'm insured on theirs, for various reasons). I said no. She said 'it might be useful'. Not wanting to be rude (her driving is awful and there's absolutely no need for her to drive my car), I said I thought she might find it tricky to drive (she hates swapping cars and finds it extremely difficult). She shouted, angrily, 'well you will find I HAVE to be!' It is clear this is part of her thinking she will come up to 'look after' me and a baby. I repeated that there was absolutely no need; I don't plan to need someone driving my car and I have plans for when the baby is born.

I really think their behaviour is batshit. But it's so hard to know because you could 'explain away' so much of it if you saw just that little bit in isolation. My mum clearly imagines I'm going to call her in labour and she'll drive up; I've said repeatedly I don't intend to do this. But would I be unreasonable to get the birth out of the way and then tell her a time she can visit, afterwards, making clear it's a visit not 'coming to help'.

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VioletsAreBlue33934 · 11/04/2026 13:23

YANBU. My mum insisted she come help when my baby was born. The best thing I ever did was insist she doesn't come until week 3 (we live abroad).

She's much nicer than your mum but her version of helpful is incredibly controlling. It has to be done HER way. At least at 3 weeks post partum I had more strength and confidence to stand up to her. I would have gone insane with her there when we came home from hospital.

mondaytosunday · 11/04/2026 13:05

@salagadoowhoa change the baby 8-10 times a night?! Goodness, don’t think I’ve ever heard of anyone having to do that!
. I’ve had two sections and no help and managed fine, though understand it may be different experience for others. Certainly would not want a parent around though - and my mother was a truly helpful and kind person but it would really have just been another thing to deal with and didn’t need the help anyway. Fortunately she was also capable of understanding my point of view.

NoCommentingFromNowOn · 11/04/2026 12:54

I’ve not had a c section but from what I’ve read you’ll benefit from extra help, so do whatever you can to get that from somewhere. Can you batch cook and freeze? Have a large stash of tins to get you through? Can your daughter do eg beans on toast and other simple meals (it’s a very long time since I had a nine year old!)? See what you can do now to anticipate how you might feel and make things easier for that time.

And it’s not about the pheasant or the museum, they are just a flavour of who your mum is. Those of us who ‘get it’ understand; those who don’t ’get it’ never will, it doesn’t matter how many examples you give.

It’s an exciting time, enjoy every minute!

Bake · 11/04/2026 12:51

SarahAndQuack · 11/04/2026 07:40

I'm not being unreasonable, am I? I

I'm 7 months pregnant, single mum by choice. I do not have an enormous support network but I do have multiple friends/family members who've offered help in the immediate period after the baby is born. My mum, who is 70, keeps steamrollering me with insistance she will come up to 'look after' me. I have repeatedly said while I understand she'd love to come and see the baby, I do not need or want her to come to look after me. I think we have hit crunch time.

I have a difficult relationship with my mum, who is pretty awful to me; it is (very, very partially) redeemed by the fact that when my ex (female) was pregnant with DD (9) and when DD was tiny, she was surprisingly thoughtful and good. A year ago, we arranged to go on holiday together. We've just got back, and woah, was it a mistake. I was apprenehsive because both my brothers had had incidents of our parents badly overstepping with their children this past year. This holiday made me feel I really don't want either parent (but it'd be my mum) around immediately after the baby is born, because if this holiday is anything to go by, she thinks 'looking after me' would be carte blanche to be an absolute controlling nightmare. Reasons (minor and grating to more major):

There is a constant, low-level undermining. Some of this is framed as jokes and some of it as flares of temper, but it's never excused. Examples of jokes would be, I mentioned in passing that my NCT group had been talking about our different careers and someone commented on an aspect of mine, and my mum instantly giggled and said 'be careful - they might believe you really do that job!' They've started doing it with my daughter too - big grins while they tell her how naughty she is or what a pain she is, and while it sounds as if it could be family banter, it's done in a way that isn't funny, and when I tell them so (repeatedly), they take no notice.

There are moments when they are disproportionately angry to be contradicted. Eg., we went round a museum with my DD. She was excited by part of it and wanted to dash and look, and my dad wanted to read and explain every display to her (she can read). I said, thinking it was no big deal, 'it doesn't matter if she doesn't understand everything'. My mum snapped, furiously, 'yes, it does matter!' They really wanted to explain everything to her in detail and were genuinely offended that she was interested in working things out for herself. I have memories of them doing this when I was a child and it was deadly dull - we'd spend hours while they tediously extracted every grain of what they considered to be educational content from an experience, with no interest in seeing what I thought of it. I let DD do her own thing and they were manifestly seething about it - it wasn't just a minor annoyance to be brushed off. This sort of thing happened repeatedly, whenever DD or I wanted to do something slightly different from what they imagined was 'right,' even if it was getting a drink for a tired child or me saying I didn't want to walk further.

During the holiday, my lovely neighbour rang to say our cat had been hit by a car; she was taking it to the emergency vets. DD was understandably upset (so was I!), and we got an awkward 'sorry' from my parents who then began discussing the way rabbits zig-zagged over the road in front of their car (?!). Neighbour subsequently rang to say the cat had died at the vet's; my parents saw me take this call and didn't react. A couple of days later I commented to my mum that DD was finding it hard, and my mum said in surprise 'oh, did the cat die?' and then moved on. In the car, they nearly hit a pheasant and started a conversation about they're silly birds and I wonder why they get hit so often? I had to tell them to stop, and again, they were totally surprised it might be upsetting or inappropriate.

The last straw was my mum suddenly asked if she was insured to drive my car (I'm insured on theirs, for various reasons). I said no. She said 'it might be useful'. Not wanting to be rude (her driving is awful and there's absolutely no need for her to drive my car), I said I thought she might find it tricky to drive (she hates swapping cars and finds it extremely difficult). She shouted, angrily, 'well you will find I HAVE to be!' It is clear this is part of her thinking she will come up to 'look after' me and a baby. I repeated that there was absolutely no need; I don't plan to need someone driving my car and I have plans for when the baby is born.

I really think their behaviour is batshit. But it's so hard to know because you could 'explain away' so much of it if you saw just that little bit in isolation. My mum clearly imagines I'm going to call her in labour and she'll drive up; I've said repeatedly I don't intend to do this. But would I be unreasonable to get the birth out of the way and then tell her a time she can visit, afterwards, making clear it's a visit not 'coming to help'.

So sorry about your cat. How sad💐

I was going to say you might need some help, but after reading the whole OP, set a firm boundary now! I said no visitors for 2 weeks when pregnant with my second. Important to protect your mental wellbeing while you are fragile in post partum period.

Lurkingandlearning · 11/04/2026 12:49

@CatsRock I have read many posts on many threads relating to / similar to OPs situation. Yours is the most insightful, understanding and objective I have seen. I hope OP finds it useful.

SarahAndQuack · 11/04/2026 12:08

WanderingWellies · 11/04/2026 11:59

I agree that in the specific context they could have been kinder, I just don’t agree that not reacting ‘properly’ about the loss of a pet equals a lack of empathy in general. They sound more thoughtless than anything and I can understand that: the death of the cat clearly wasn’t at the forefront of their minds so it didn’t occur to spare their granddaughter’s feelings. I’m not saying they were in the right but I imagine I’ve been similarly thoughtless at times.

But the difference - to me - seems to be that you know you're not really in tune with pets so you have to remember to reassure the people you love that you do care. And that's really considerate and thoughtful. If my parents were the sort of people who were able to say 'oh gosh, sorry, we didn't even think that this might upset DD' that would go a very long way.

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niclw · 11/04/2026 12:06

I’m also an SMBC with a super controlling mum. I read your OP and my initial reaction was that I couldn’t go on holiday with my mum. She tries to control everything so I live far enough away from her that she can’t just pop round. My mum turned up at my door when I was in labour and stayed for a week. We hadn’t discussed her being there. In fact we had discussed that a friend would be with me. That particular friend lives 3 mins drive from me and her boss supported her being there for me if I needed her in work hours so I really didn’t need my mum. However, the hospital didn’t want me there until the last minute as I live so close and there were no complications and by the time I went in I didn’t have the energy to argue. I have to admit she was very helpful after I had my baby. She didn’t put any pressure on me at all, just cooked, cleaned and helped with my child while I had a shower or a nap. However, I was glad when she left as I could finally get settled into being a new mum on my own. Since then she has been completely useless. If I would you I would make sure that you have everything ready weeks before your due date. That your freezer is stocked with easy food to cook and just in case you have a c section have everything set up so it is easily successful. Also ensure that you have people on standby to help if you need it. In hindsight I probably wouldn’t tell me parents I was in labour if I had another child but that would be because my mum is getting worse with old age.

SarahAndQuack · 11/04/2026 12:01

@TeacheeTeacherson, I'm sorry, that sounds really rough.

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LikeASoulWithoutAMind · 11/04/2026 12:00

YANBU in the slightest. It sounds like having her around would be very stressful which is the last thing you need.

Do make sure you've got a concrete plan in place for after the birth though, especially if a c-section might be on the cards. I know my sister (also a single mum) could do very little to start with, she really needed someone with her (or at least on call) most of the time.

WanderingWellies · 11/04/2026 11:59

Credittocress · 11/04/2026 11:44

it’s not difficult to know that is a 9 year olds pet has just been run over, you don’t make comments about running over other animals and it happens because they are stupid in front of the child.

you don’t need to be a pet person to see that.

I agree that in the specific context they could have been kinder, I just don’t agree that not reacting ‘properly’ about the loss of a pet equals a lack of empathy in general. They sound more thoughtless than anything and I can understand that: the death of the cat clearly wasn’t at the forefront of their minds so it didn’t occur to spare their granddaughter’s feelings. I’m not saying they were in the right but I imagine I’ve been similarly thoughtless at times.

SarahAndQuack · 11/04/2026 11:57

WanderingWellies · 11/04/2026 11:54

Thank you. I do try and eventually realised that focusing on the upset friend made it easier because obviously I don’t want people I care about to be sad so it’s irrelevant whether or not I actually care about the pet.

You sound lovely.

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TeacheeTeacherson · 11/04/2026 11:56

When I had DD1, I was living with my parents for the first month as our house purchase got delayed. So many people said ‘oh it’ll be lovely to have your mum to help’, but it was a nightmare. They didn’t help at all, didn’t change a single nappy, were very critical, complained about hearing the baby cry in the night, which was also apparently disturbing my brother when he had to go to his big important job in the morning. They only put on the hot water for a couple of hours even though there were 5 of us in the house, so when I wanted to shower I would have to switch it on and wait an hour, by which point the baby would probably need feeding, and then by the time I was ‘ready’ to shower they would have used the hot water and I would have to start all over again. They also got very annoyed if I made myself food and didn’t immediately wash up becuase I was feeding the baby. It was a really miserable and stressful time, I would far rather have been on my own. Don’t give in to her, you will regret it.

SarahAndQuack · 11/04/2026 11:56

MrsVBS · 11/04/2026 11:53

When I started reading I thought you might be glad of some help but as it went on I completely agree it sounds awful. Don’t let her steamroll you into anything, say no and be firm. Good luck!

Thank you! Yes, it's a really tricky balance because I am aware help would be good; I am nervous about what happens if I have a section (especially if it's as hard as it was for my ex and our DD). I would do quite a bit of compromising/biting my tongue, because I'm not under any illusion it'll be a walk in the park. But I just think this was the final straw really.

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WanderingWellies · 11/04/2026 11:54

SarahAndQuack · 11/04/2026 11:43

Confused What's wrong with that as a response? You sound perfectly empathetic and nice.

Thank you. I do try and eventually realised that focusing on the upset friend made it easier because obviously I don’t want people I care about to be sad so it’s irrelevant whether or not I actually care about the pet.

SarahAndQuack · 11/04/2026 11:53

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 11/04/2026 11:48

Yanbu to not have your mum there but you absolutely do need someone there will you just in case especially if you’ve had a c section . A rotation of loving friends is probably better than your mum, plus I imagine your dd would be very helpful too

Thank you! I think DD will be wonderful, actually - she's an absolute darling and she is very, very good in general. I think a big part of why I am so browned off at the moment was that I had to keep defending her to them, and she is actually a really nice child who was making a big effort with them.

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MrsVBS · 11/04/2026 11:53

When I started reading I thought you might be glad of some help but as it went on I completely agree it sounds awful. Don’t let her steamroll you into anything, say no and be firm. Good luck!

SarahAndQuack · 11/04/2026 11:48

dapsnotplimsolls · 11/04/2026 11:19

Why not suggest they visit 2 weeks after the birth for a couple of days, if you can bear the thought. That way, there is a concrete plan.

I think she will just ignore anything she doesn't like the sound of. This holiday really reinforced to me how much both of my parents do that. They'd talked all the talk about how they'd like to know what DD and I wanted to do, but in practice, it was as if they didn't hear us. All suggestions were just brushed aside with 'oh well, no one wants to do that do they?' or a bemused 'we're doing this today'.

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Unexpectedlysinglemum · 11/04/2026 11:48

Yanbu to not have your mum there but you absolutely do need someone there will you just in case especially if you’ve had a c section . A rotation of loving friends is probably better than your mum, plus I imagine your dd would be very helpful too

Credittocress · 11/04/2026 11:46

hypnovic · 11/04/2026 11:19

I don't think a good mums urge to help and support thier children switches off just because the body can't keep up. It's sad to watch happen they feel useless when they used to be able to soothe their babies

Might be sad, but when their daughter is giving birth and trying to figure out motherhood this is not the time to accommodate their hurt feelings. For a couple of weeks mum and baby should take priority over everything else.

SarahAndQuack · 11/04/2026 11:46

TheCommonWoMan · 11/04/2026 11:00

Not what you need at all!

BUT.
it is a mother's instinct to want to help her offspring.
Thats why the other poster upthread's mother wanted to fly to NZ to 'help'.

Be kind in telling her

YY, I do see that.

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MotherOfSoManyCats · 11/04/2026 11:45

Childbirth is an emotional time and your hormones may crash to give you the "baby blues" after a few days... mixing this in with someone who behaves like your mum may be a total disaster.

If you feel strong enough I would stop saying you dont need help and begin saying that YOU WANT to spend the time with your baby alone and that you won't be opening the door to ANY visitors. However, please have a friend on hand (if there is one) to help you out should things not go smoothly and you do actually need help or begin to struggle.

Good luck x

Credittocress · 11/04/2026 11:44

WanderingWellies · 11/04/2026 11:36

I don’t necessarily agree re the cat. I’ve never had pets (allergic) and find it really hard to offer genuine sympathy if someone’s beloved pet dies (or even express interest in a living one to be honest). However, I have bucketloads of empathy in general and have learned with the pet thing to be upfront and just say “I find it really hard to say or do the right thing here because it’s so far outside of my experience. I know it’s really hard for you though and I am sorry.”

it’s not difficult to know that is a 9 year olds pet has just been run over, you don’t make comments about running over other animals and it happens because they are stupid in front of the child.

you don’t need to be a pet person to see that.

SarahAndQuack · 11/04/2026 11:43

WanderingWellies · 11/04/2026 11:36

I don’t necessarily agree re the cat. I’ve never had pets (allergic) and find it really hard to offer genuine sympathy if someone’s beloved pet dies (or even express interest in a living one to be honest). However, I have bucketloads of empathy in general and have learned with the pet thing to be upfront and just say “I find it really hard to say or do the right thing here because it’s so far outside of my experience. I know it’s really hard for you though and I am sorry.”

Confused What's wrong with that as a response? You sound perfectly empathetic and nice.
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WanderingWellies · 11/04/2026 11:36

LeavesOnTrees · 11/04/2026 07:49

YANBU , your mum sounds toxic and not what you need after giving birth.
I'd give her minimum information about birth dates and arrangements.
You don't need to tell her when you go into labour.
She didn't care about your cat dying because she has no empathy.

I don’t necessarily agree re the cat. I’ve never had pets (allergic) and find it really hard to offer genuine sympathy if someone’s beloved pet dies (or even express interest in a living one to be honest). However, I have bucketloads of empathy in general and have learned with the pet thing to be upfront and just say “I find it really hard to say or do the right thing here because it’s so far outside of my experience. I know it’s really hard for you though and I am sorry.”

PinkiePipe · 11/04/2026 11:22

YANBU. The postpartum period can be so vulnerable and exhausting. I don't have a Mum but having my MIL (also difficult and overbearing) visit frequently in the first few weeks made things so much harder for me. I literally wanted to scream every time she tried to grab my baby and run off to another room with them and I felt constantly defensive, undermined and stressed. And luckily she was only ever around for a day or two at a time! But my feelings were absolutely visceral and almost animalistic, I just wanted us both to be left quietly alone to recover/bond/try to figure out breastfeeding etc in peace.

I think you're in a great position in a way because you have realised that her "help" will be unhelpful well in advance, you can set your boundaries now. Stick to your guns. And best of luck!

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