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To ask how a child is supposed to make different friends if the whole class is in tight groups/pairs?

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ToffeeCrabApple · 10/04/2026 23:06

Dd is 7/y2. She had various friends in rec/y1, including one sort of on/off "best friend" - they waxed and waned in what seemed to be a healthy way and also often played with various other girls, but did always seem to gravitate back to each other. DD seems to me to be a completely normal kid gets on great with her brother and cousins and makes friends easily outside school eg on holiday club.

In y2 suddenly it seems like the whole class is in one tight exclusive pair or group or other. The "best friend" swiftly dropped DD for a new girl. I advised DD to not go chasing after them, especially if they were not kind to her "you can't play" and the like. Encouraged her to play with others, had a few play dates to help her broaden out etc.

It hasn't worked. Seemingly all the girls are in very tight 2s/3s, DD is a perpetual unwelcome third wheel asking to play. No ones invited her for play dates back. I keep calmly cheerfully saying "don't worry just find someone else to play", but everyone keeps saying you can't make kids include others etc, what the fuck do you do if no one lets you play? Her big brother has said she's ending up on her own a lot and joining him (he's kind and is fine with this). He also told me quietly he's seen former "best friend" running away from her when she asks to join in.

She was completely fine till now. Confident, sociable. Why are little girls so mean to each other?

I just don't know what to do. Asked teacher, who shuffled tables around at one point but can't do much else. Poor DD is just getting sad and her confidence is drifting away.

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Unexpectedlysinglemum · 11/04/2026 08:58

TadpolesInPool · 11/04/2026 06:00

This happened to me in primary school. One big group of boys who played football every lunchtime then tight groups of 2 or 3 others. (Our class was 32-36 kids).

I just drifted a bit. Occasionally I'd get closer to some kids but never very close. My biggest stress was PE every week because we had to choose our partners. fortunately I was very sporty so usually someone was happy to be with me but I worried every week. I would have appreciated it if my mum had spoken to the teacher so the teacher occasionally partnered people together rather than it feeling like a popularity competition.

I have no advice but I did find my tribe at secondary school and had a very close best friend and a good group of friends so it was much better.

((Hugs)) for your DD

It happened to me in year 3-4 it was a lonely time. Things got better for me after one left one joined and a couple fell out and after the summer holidays I think. Although I got accused of taking my new friend away from someone else too! I echo I wish my mum had spoken to teacher.

ToffeeCrabApple · 11/04/2026 06:30

I would also add -

  • there's no rainbows group but ive put her on the list for brownies next yr but haven't heard yet if shes got a place. I can't volunteer week in week out at it due to my working hours but ive said I could volunteer for camps and other extra activities and can do one week a term (i will have to leave work early for that).

She does a sport club & swimming but no one from school goes (she has a nice little friend at the sport). I'm trying to get her to join the school choir as lots of kids go to that.

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TadpolesInPool · 11/04/2026 06:18

ToffeeCrabApple · 11/04/2026 06:03

Interesting she has started saying she hates pe this term, I wonder if this is why :(

It could be. It was 35 years ago and I vividly remember how I felt every week. I used to spend a couple of days trying to get someone to promise to be my partner , which of course wasn't something they were bothered enough to discuss so far ahead!

Indubai · 11/04/2026 06:05

It’s very normal for friendship groups to shift about. Difficult to watch them go through it, though.

Keep working with the school, extending those play date invitations and focussing on activities where she can build her confidence.

Sounds like you are a very caring family.

ToffeeCrabApple · 11/04/2026 06:03

TadpolesInPool · 11/04/2026 06:00

This happened to me in primary school. One big group of boys who played football every lunchtime then tight groups of 2 or 3 others. (Our class was 32-36 kids).

I just drifted a bit. Occasionally I'd get closer to some kids but never very close. My biggest stress was PE every week because we had to choose our partners. fortunately I was very sporty so usually someone was happy to be with me but I worried every week. I would have appreciated it if my mum had spoken to the teacher so the teacher occasionally partnered people together rather than it feeling like a popularity competition.

I have no advice but I did find my tribe at secondary school and had a very close best friend and a good group of friends so it was much better.

((Hugs)) for your DD

Interesting she has started saying she hates pe this term, I wonder if this is why :(

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ToffeeCrabApple · 11/04/2026 06:02

VashtaNerada · 11/04/2026 03:59

Talk to the teacher again, there might be more the school can offer like a lunchtime club to support her make new friends. Is there just one Year 2 class at your school?

Yes, just one form. No other schools in walking distance and we've otherwise been h happy with this school, she doesn't want to move or anything

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ToffeeCrabApple · 11/04/2026 06:01

PinkPonyAnonymous · 11/04/2026 03:29

Were any of the play dates promising? I’d just invite someone again. I know it’s usual to go one host each, but there are various reasons some families might not want to host and they might be nothing to do with your child.

They all seemed to go well, we had a couple of kids twice but then at school they play with their bestie & excluded dd

:(

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TadpolesInPool · 11/04/2026 06:00

This happened to me in primary school. One big group of boys who played football every lunchtime then tight groups of 2 or 3 others. (Our class was 32-36 kids).

I just drifted a bit. Occasionally I'd get closer to some kids but never very close. My biggest stress was PE every week because we had to choose our partners. fortunately I was very sporty so usually someone was happy to be with me but I worried every week. I would have appreciated it if my mum had spoken to the teacher so the teacher occasionally partnered people together rather than it feeling like a popularity competition.

I have no advice but I did find my tribe at secondary school and had a very close best friend and a good group of friends so it was much better.

((Hugs)) for your DD

ToffeeCrabApple · 11/04/2026 06:00

GlovedhandsCecilia · 11/04/2026 03:17

Have you reminded her there are boys in the class too, and they might be fun to play with?

Of course, she has occasionally played with various boys and we had a couple to play but it never seems to "stick" or develop into more of a friendship.

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olympicsrock · 11/04/2026 05:50

The teachers / school need to handle this better. Encourage kindness , tell kids that it’s not ok to exclude someone from games, a kindness bench where a kid who is lonely will go to sit and a bench monitor child will go and talk to / play with that child.
stop letting the children choose partners / pairs in lessons .
Is there a teacher in the playground watching what is happening ?

firstofallimadelight · 11/04/2026 05:33

I’d keep trying with play dates.
Keep encouraging her to play (with boys too!)
Does she do any after school clubs?

VashtaNerada · 11/04/2026 03:59

Talk to the teacher again, there might be more the school can offer like a lunchtime club to support her make new friends. Is there just one Year 2 class at your school?

PinkPonyAnonymous · 11/04/2026 03:29

Were any of the play dates promising? I’d just invite someone again. I know it’s usual to go one host each, but there are various reasons some families might not want to host and they might be nothing to do with your child.

GlovedhandsCecilia · 11/04/2026 03:17

Have you reminded her there are boys in the class too, and they might be fun to play with?

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