to think it’s time to ban dogs from shops and cafes?

Guarantee you that some of the dog haters on this thread have cats they let free roam to shit in other people’s gardens.

That's what a responsible owner does, if we don't there would be an uproar.

Nor does it involve grasping still-warm turds. That’s a really weird hobby

It turns dh's stomach when he sees that. He does a proper huge gag.

I agree, and I don’t know why the particularly offensive poster hasn’t been banned. FWIW I’m outside a pub deep in the Surrey hills surrounded by sleeping dogs, dogs being petted and dogs nicking snacks from their owners. There are also families without dogs and many cyclists having a break. It’s absolutely joyful and I imagine the pub owner will have a tidy profit at the end of the day.

People are quite a bit dirtier than dogs. Additionally, you're orders of magnitude more likely to catch something from another person than a dog.
If you want somewhere to be clean, start by banning people!!

How many humans do you see going around barefoot, shitting in the grass and then licking their arses clean, and then enjoy licking each other, and at times eat each others shit too!

This particular beach was a case of go left at the bottom dog friendly go right no dogs.

Like yours however the dog side was more pebbly so people with children and dogs wanted the sand side.

We have had children announcing they need a poo, Mummy has ignored them, so they’ve dropped trousers and pooed where they stood!

Again, unacceptable, in dogs and children!
It's a fact though that dog poo carries more than twice the amount of bacteria than human poo and is a major environmental pollutant. It often carries salmonella and parasites, E .coli and roundworms all of which can survive for years and is a long term health risk to humans.

Baby poo is unpleasant but highly unlikely to cause major illness.
Now there's a comparison I never dreamed I'd have to make.

A bit of baby poo doesn't scare me. Dog poo can be dangerous to humans
and I have seen more than one dog empty its bowels in a shop. Some poor bugger has to clean that up. It's vile. I don't hate dogs, they just don't belong in indoor public spaces.

Seriously? Another thread about dogs in cafes? 🙄

Adding weight to their lame anecdotes. They realise the truth of ‘I saw a dog’ doesn’t quite cut it. They haven’t be health hazards, trip hazards, snarling, yapping, drooling and so on.

The dog friendly cafes I go to encourage dogs. One even gives you a discount on your food if you have a dog with you on certain days.

Not all have been forced to accept dogs at all.

But yes, I don't like to see badly behaved dogs either.

If you have even average eyesight you should have been able to see a ‘large dog’ in a narrow train aisle without your focus being on the floor.

I actually think these threads are getting weirder, if that was at all possible.

Who, the dog owners?

But do you not think a lot of coffee shop owners have been forced to bend over backwards to accommodate dogs because everyone brings their dogs with them every time they come out now?
It's not fair to expect everyone else to enjoy having dogs there when they are eating.
Well behaved dogs with responsible owners are fine but these rules allow irresponsible dog owners to let their dogs run riot.
We were in a cafe once and a dog was barking loudly non stop, you couldn't hear yourself think and people were getting up and leaving.
Another time this woman's dog jumped up onto my husband's lap while he was eating, she laughed and when he didn't laugh she looked at him like he'd offended her ancestors.
On the other hand, we've been in cafes where we haven't known there was a dog until it has left because the owners were responsible and considerate of the other customers there.
If only all owners could be like that but they're not and there is where the issue lies.

You can be as rude, moronic or cruel as you like as long as you’re whinging about dogs. Tell some truths about these people and they’re quick to hit the report button.

I knew I would come to this thread in the morning and they would be here.
Under their old username, they used to bang on about making and hiding in a giant metal box that shits and pisses everywhere.

"Genetically engineered frankenstein" 😂😂😂😂

We need to update the bingo cards @YeOldeGreyhound @Onleemoi

Not sure why my post was deleted for calling someone odd for implying that dog owners are lying about combining cafés and walks in the same outing, and stating that they cannot possibly know unless the interrogate owners in cafés.

Entitled! They shout as they demand the world revolves around them.

That's fair enough but we used to walk our dog and leave him in the house where he could find a comfortable spot to relax. He was never tied up outside or left to roam.

Thanks 👍

There's multiple differences between now and the 80s

Firstly I've said above, dogs in the 80s weren't some weird paradise. They were frequently left in garden or roaming, shitting everywhere and terrifying local school kids walking past

There were frequently dogs in pubs etc near me.

People also used to leave them tied up outside, or in cars (all of which is now fraught with danger) or in general for long periods

In some ways it's because the rules have tightened up, people no longer leave their dogs for huge periods, and there's less places to leave them.

My childhood dog was left in the garden for whole days when we went out, or a neighbour would popin to feed it when we went away. He used to come to the beach with us, and we used to take it on the train on holiday sometimes and leave it in the caravan

Now I wouldn't be leaving my dog for 2 days in a garden or a neighbour popping in. That dog isn't beach friendly, I wouldn't tie him up outside and the accommodation doesn't allow dogs to be left

My dog is able to be left happily for pretty long periods but those things are no longer acceptable

To a certain extent lots of places have opened to dogs because they realise there's a sitting market.

If it's raining in a coastal town or the peaks etc surrounded by holiday cottages and campsites, every single person with a dog will be looking for an indoor place they can visit and they can't leave their dog in the accommodation

The only people that need to accept dogs in establishments is the establishment owner.
If they allow dogs, then being entitled does not come into it. It is more entitled for people with views like yourself to stomp your feet and demand the manager changes things for you. You want them to change the rules for you. That is pure entitlement, and it honestly has me scratching my head when you can't see that.

Yes, entitled. Well done.

Well, I shall be going to a country park tomorrow to go for a walk with about 60 greyhounds. I can't wait 😁
The onsite café does not allow dogs, which is fine. Me and mum will go to our usual one on the way back. Her greyhound will have a snooze on his mat whist we enjoy tea and cake.

Entitled 😆

It's a waste of time trying to argue with these people, they are entitled and think that everyone should accept their dogs in establishments even if they are scared / allergic and love their dog as much as they do.
In the 70's, 80's and even 90's, dogs in eating establishments were unheard of, but for service dogs. What's changed in that dogs can no longer be left alone? And are now dragged around shops / cafes etc.
Some of the dogs I see look totally pissed off and would probably prefer to be running in fields.
These entitled people, however, are the same people who complain about 'screaming kids'.