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to think it’s time to ban dogs from shops and cafes?

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timetoban · 10/04/2026 13:07

I’ve just read a BBC article about the increase in dog attacks in the UK.

Dogs seem to be everywhere now. Cafes, shops, even places where food is being served. I’m not anti-dog at all, but I don’t really want to be eating or shopping surrounded by them.

It’s not just about preference either. Some people are allergic, some are genuinely scared, and others just don’t want to deal with barking, smells or dogs getting under their feet. The BBC piece even mentioned people feeling like they have to avoid going out because dogs are everywhere now.

I also don’t really get how it’s hygienic in places serving food. I know people say “well-behaved dogs are fine” but not all dogs are well-behaved, and staff aren’t exactly going to challenge every owner.

Before anyone says it, yes obviously assistance dogs are different and should be allowed. That’s not what I mean.

I just feel like we’ve swung too far the other way where dog owners expect to take them absolutely everywhere, and everyone else just has to put up with it.

Surely it’s not unreasonable to have more dog-free indoor spaces again?

OP posts:
igelkott2026 · 11/04/2026 15:30

MandingoAteMyBaby · 11/04/2026 14:40

I wouldn’t keep any animal as a plaything; I find that such a bizarre thing to do.

Agreed. I am sure the current pet owners will agree with us once AI starts keeping us as pets!

Interesting to see the list of dog-free cafes etc above. But it's not accurate - eg John Lewis allows dogs. And rules change - my local garden centre banned dogs for a bit but has now allowed them again - but on the other side of the coin a garden centre near my mum which did allow them has stopped letting them come in. It seems a question of who shouts loudest at any one time.

Ultimately if owners trained their pets properly nobody would have a problem with the dogs. It must be really annoying for the owners who do train their dogs!

Gloriia · 11/04/2026 15:26

PottingBench · 11/04/2026 15:06

Just looked it up. Over 800 Wetherspoon pubs, over 800 Premier Inn cafes, about 1,400 McDonalds, 300 M&S cafes, 160 plus JLP and Waitrose cafes, multiple Bella Pastas, Pizza Express, Betty's, over 2,000 museum and gallery cafes.

None of these allow dogs.

Then there are lots of others with dog free areas within the building.

Honestly, you wonder what people want really.

They all should be dog free, we should not have to plan our day around where we might encounter an often badly behaved dog at the next table.

Doesn't the fact that many do ban dogs give you some indication of how anti social many find our lovely dogs in cafes and shops?

Should people take their cats and rabbits with them everywhere if not why not? Can you not see that family pets are just that, for the enjoyment of their owners at home.

mydogisthebest · 11/04/2026 15:21

PottingBench · 11/04/2026 15:06

Just looked it up. Over 800 Wetherspoon pubs, over 800 Premier Inn cafes, about 1,400 McDonalds, 300 M&S cafes, 160 plus JLP and Waitrose cafes, multiple Bella Pastas, Pizza Express, Betty's, over 2,000 museum and gallery cafes.

None of these allow dogs.

Then there are lots of others with dog free areas within the building.

Honestly, you wonder what people want really.

I agree. Plenty of dog free places for the dog haters to go.

I know it varies across the country but in my nearest town not even a third of coffee shops, cafes and restaurants allow dogs.

MandingoAteMyBaby · 11/04/2026 15:20

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 11/04/2026 15:17

I hope that includes those who let their children do ‘wild wees’

Yes. And men who piss in the street.

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 11/04/2026 15:17

MandingoAteMyBaby · 11/04/2026 10:17

The pavement isn’t a blank canvas for piss; if your hobby is painting the village with urine, that’s up to you.

I hope that includes those who let their children do ‘wild wees’

SonK · 11/04/2026 15:12

I don't mind, I would never get a dog but always enjoy other people's (with permission) when out and about and at settings you mentioned.
As long as they are not a risk, I really don't see the issue

YeOldeGreyhound · 11/04/2026 15:11

JulietteHasAGun · 11/04/2026 15:08

I suspect it’s the same poster, the name change for the thread gives it away. Not brave enough to post with their usual name even though there’s obviously nothing identifying about the topic.

Yes, a lot of the dog haters have name changed but I recognise them because their views have not changed.

JulietteHasAGun · 11/04/2026 15:08

Gloriia · 11/04/2026 13:08

Yep. It is a problem that is pissing many people off. The amount of threads reflects that.

I suspect it’s the same poster, the name change for the thread gives it away. Not brave enough to post with their usual name even though there’s obviously nothing identifying about the topic.

PottingBench · 11/04/2026 15:06

Just looked it up. Over 800 Wetherspoon pubs, over 800 Premier Inn cafes, about 1,400 McDonalds, 300 M&S cafes, 160 plus JLP and Waitrose cafes, multiple Bella Pastas, Pizza Express, Betty's, over 2,000 museum and gallery cafes.

None of these allow dogs.

Then there are lots of others with dog free areas within the building.

Honestly, you wonder what people want really.

PottingBench · 11/04/2026 15:00

Gloriia · 11/04/2026 13:08

Yep. It is a problem that is pissing many people off. The amount of threads reflects that.

Which is strange really, when you think how many dog free cafes, pubs and restaurants there are in Britain.

PottingBench · 11/04/2026 14:55

@MandingoAteMyBaby can't understand dogs or humans.

Onleemoi · 11/04/2026 14:52

MandingoAteMyBaby · 11/04/2026 14:40

I wouldn’t keep any animal as a plaything; I find that such a bizarre thing to do.

I don’t think many people are going to be looking to you for what’s right and wrong to be fair.

MandingoAteMyBaby · 11/04/2026 14:40

jeaux90 · 11/04/2026 12:24

Guarantee you that some of the dog haters on this thread have cats they let free roam to shit in other people’s gardens.

I wouldn’t keep any animal as a plaything; I find that such a bizarre thing to do.

Keepingthingsinteresting · 11/04/2026 13:46

timetoban · 10/04/2026 20:13

What is whinny about it?

If it so boring, don't join in.

You are whining about dogs, ergo it is a whiney post….. can’t help you any more with reading comprehension as need to go for a lovely walk with my dog 🐶

again you are missing the point that clearly business owners think it’s n the interests of their businesses, so they are going to do it. If you feel so strongly set up your own place

CarlaH · 11/04/2026 13:43

mydogisthebest · 11/04/2026 13:34

Well you really don't have to "peer intently at the floor" in order to walk AND see anything in your way. How do you walk along a pavement if you can't look both at the pavement and ahead?

I thank you for your concern but won't be responding any further.

mydogisthebest · 11/04/2026 13:34

CarlaH · 11/04/2026 13:13

Indeed that might have been the case although it has never happened so far anyway.

I was responding to somebody saying only an idiot would stand on a dog. I had no intention of doing so but was not peering intently at the floor because I was actually trying to get to a seat before the train started moving.

Personally I would make sure that I wouldn't block the aisle with any of the items listed.

Edited

Well you really don't have to "peer intently at the floor" in order to walk AND see anything in your way. How do you walk along a pavement if you can't look both at the pavement and ahead?

CarlaH · 11/04/2026 13:13

TheGoldenOwl · 11/04/2026 13:09

Would you have tripped over a bag or is your poor eyesight exclusive to dogs?

It could have been a bag, an umbrella handle, a suitcase wheel, a folded coat...

The fact it was a dog is not the problem

Indeed that might have been the case although it has never happened so far anyway.

I was responding to somebody saying only an idiot would stand on a dog. I had no intention of doing so but was not peering intently at the floor because I was actually trying to get to a seat before the train started moving.

Personally I would make sure that I wouldn't block the aisle with any of the items listed.

TheGoldenOwl · 11/04/2026 13:09

CarlaH · 11/04/2026 12:55

WTF of course it wasn't.

I tripped over a dog which was under my feet as I made my way along.

What part of that don't you understand?

Oh I won't worry.

Edited

Would you have tripped over a bag or is your poor eyesight exclusive to dogs?

It could have been a bag, an umbrella handle, a suitcase wheel, a folded coat...

The fact it was a dog is not the problem

Gloriia · 11/04/2026 13:08

Whatexcellentboiledpotatoes · 11/04/2026 12:01

Seriously? Another thread about dogs in cafes? 🙄

Yep. It is a problem that is pissing many people off. The amount of threads reflects that.

CarlaH · 11/04/2026 12:55

Tutorpuzzle · 11/04/2026 12:44

So your previous post describing a large dog in the aisle was made up, @CarlaH ?🙄

Don’t worry, the vast majority of slobbering, yapping, pooing, peeing etc dog incidents are undoubtedly made up too.

WTF of course it wasn't.

I tripped over a dog which was under my feet as I made my way along.

What part of that don't you understand?

Oh I won't worry.

DisplayPurposesOnly · 11/04/2026 12:53

Not everything annoying requires 'banning'.

YANBU to not like dogs in shops/cafes, its not everyone's happy scenario. YABU to think this needs government to pass legislation.

Tutorpuzzle · 11/04/2026 12:44

So your previous post describing a large dog in the aisle was made up, @CarlaH ?🙄

Don’t worry, the vast majority of slobbering, yapping, pooing, peeing etc dog incidents are undoubtedly made up too.

CarlaH · 11/04/2026 12:37

Tutorpuzzle · 11/04/2026 11:55

If you have even average eyesight you should have been able to see a ‘large dog’ in a narrow train aisle without your focus being on the floor.

I actually think these threads are getting weirder, if that was at all possible.

Well clearly I am a deficient human being. When I say a large dog I mean it wasn't a handbag sized dog. It also wasn't covering the whole of the aisle but protruding into it.

At the end of the day I did trip over it, whatever the reason, but I will be more careful in future though.

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 11/04/2026 12:28

jeaux90 · 11/04/2026 12:24

Guarantee you that some of the dog haters on this thread have cats they let free roam to shit in other people’s gardens.

Admittedly not a dog hater but our cats only go out for about 10 mins a day and they come in to use the litter tray 🤣

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 11/04/2026 12:27

LighthouseLola · 11/04/2026 12:04

We have had children announcing they need a poo, Mummy has ignored them, so they’ve dropped trousers and pooed where they stood!

Again, unacceptable, in dogs and children!
It's a fact though that dog poo carries more than twice the amount of bacteria than human poo and is a major environmental pollutant. It often carries salmonella and parasites, E .coli and roundworms all of which can survive for years and is a long term health risk to humans.

Baby poo is unpleasant but highly unlikely to cause major illness.
Now there's a comparison I never dreamed I'd have to make.

A bit of baby poo doesn't scare me. Dog poo can be dangerous to humans
and I have seen more than one dog empty its bowels in a shop. Some poor bugger has to clean that up. It's vile. I don't hate dogs, they just don't belong in indoor public spaces.

Baby poo/puke is much more hideous to a lot of people than animal poo/puke. It depends what you are used to. Many years ago a friend brought her baby to a meet up and it puked on her shoulder while I was sat next to her 🤮🤮🤮

I can handle whatever comes out of animals without batting an eyelid

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