to think it’s time to ban dogs from shops and cafes?

Yes 😆

It is like clockwork on here. I have my bingo card ready.

I wouldn’t bother @Credittocress , I’ve even seen posters give dozens of examples of dog free cafes etc in particular locations, but there’s always a reason why none of them are suitable. Most people who don’t want be around dogs are simply too bone idle to make any sort of effort to find places.

And hello @vodkaredbullgirl and @YeOldeGreyhound ! Are you getting the same sense of Deja vu as me? 🤣🤣

Cafes are private land.

I’d vote for that.

So I have gone to give you the volume of places

Cafes are what I look for. And the ones in my town are all dog friendly.
I'd know if there was a dog free cafe, I've tried them all.

There is actually a dog free cafe/garden centre/kids adventure park fairly close to where I live and we occasionally go there. Unfortunately there's an £8 pp admission fee so that's the downside. Costs us £24 to have a dog free afternoon. We go when I'm feeling flush.

I agree, it pisses me off people dragging their dogs here there and everywhere. I went to a shopping centre (a small one admittedly!) then to a cafe the other day and there were so many dogs! Some weren’t causing any issues of course but there were plenty that were barking and whining and getting in the way of people passing by etc etc. The worst of it was a fuck off big mastiff type that wasn’t on a lead, paying absolutely no attention to his owner but an awful lot of attention to my 4yo and 1yo. Now he didn’t attack them or anything but I did feel very on edge, and there’s little I or anyone else could’ve done if it did go for them, even to play could cause damage with the size of it. Thats before you get into the fact many dogs are poorly socialised and find busy places very upsetting, which seems terribly unfair! I say all this as a dog lover, with a dog myself 😂
I accept though that unfortunately I must be in the minority as clearly it makes businesses more money to allow them… and in this day and age I can see why they’d want to fully maximise their profits!

I wish but I just don't see it happening because dogs are absolutely everywhere and it is a financially smart decision for a lot of businesses.

It just means I avoid the vast majority of parks, shops and and cafes these days because my son is scared of dogs.

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This is a very good point. We patronise these cafes throughout the year - even in the worst weather and it's mostly other dog owners/walkers in there keeping them open.

It’s now my list to only book haven spoons sites when we go caravaning

A lot of Wetherspoons are pretty good to be fair. But not a cafe atmosphere which is what I'm looking for when I'm out and about - also they're almost always in town centres. Still. Beggars can't be choosers. It's usually all there is without dogs.

Dogs don't bother me but to be fair this will vary immensely by areas. Where I am every pub and business permits dogs. But I am in the country and this has always been the case in rural areas - I think people object to it more in towns.

Well I went for chains because if I say well Amalia’s on my high street doesn’t allow dogs that doesn’t exactly prove the point that there are loads of options. So I have gone to give you the volume of places.

Time to ban them everywhere except private land to be honest. Public spaces should be dog-free.

Because other people were on holiday and had their dog with them. You can't leave dogs alone in holiday accommodation.

This will be me in a few weeks. Holiday with my mum and her very well behaved dog. We will be going in places where he is allowed.

Yes… time for the daily “dog love / dog hate row to start!

Businesses will do anything to get people through the door at the moment ( I work in hospitality, I know how tough the industry is) We daren’t “upset” the customers.. so we have to put up with appalling treatment..
Kids are let loose, to run around, scream etc, basically are allowed to do anything in our place and we never say anything. Complain and we’ll give you massive refunds and gifts.
Believe me, if you bring a dog in and it lies quietly under the table as 99% do, it is a real treat for us!!

Nothing said on these pages will ever change peoples opinions about “dogs or not”

So why bother?

Its never a debate, it turns into a hysterical to & fro row.

Cafes, eating places, pubs etc are on their knees… wether you like dogs or not will not make any difference to them. They want bums - furry or not - or those seats!

I don’t like dogs, and don’t go to food places that allow them. But I wouldn’t say there “should” be more dog free places - businesses are free do what they think will benefit them the most. I hope more people will vote with their feet in a way that makes more places ban dogs though.

There’s outrage at the moment with a load of haven sites restaurants being taken over by spoons.

The dog owners are not happy and even leaving bad reviews based on that they now won’t come because their dog can’t come inside 😂😂

It’s now my list to only book haven spoons sites when we go caravaning.

Can you please post a statistic that shows there has been increase in people being attacked by dogs in cafes.

Nando’s, pizza express, Prezzo, cote, zizzi, most national trust cafes, wetherspoons, McDonalds, GBK, five guys, Wagamama, miller and carter, harvester. I mean you are looking at 10s of thousands of outlets just across these

They are all chain restaurants. You can't really go in those for just a coffee and cake and have a nice cafe atmosphere. Having said that I always plump for Wetherspoons in town. It's my only choice though, even though there are dozens of proper cafes. They all accept dogs.

I was on holiday last week and there were dogs absolutely EVERYWHERE - cafes, indoor shopping centre, beauty spots.
Why on earth ( apart from assistance dogs) do you need to take a dog to a shopping centre?
Fed up of dogs sniffing around my food and barking at each other or fighting.

It's become ridiculous. I don't bring my cat out with me.

AGAIN

People are quite a bit dirtier than dogs. Additionally, you're orders of magnitude more likely to catch something from another person than a dog.

If you want somewhere to be clean, start by banning people!!

Obviously this is silly, but so is the claim that dogs are just so unhygienic while completely ignoring the biggest (and by far the most common) health risk in the room - people.

No. The majority of places accept dogs now. I’d struggle to find a cafe that was dog-free apart from McDonalds. It’s miserable. My DH is allergic and I just don’t want to be around them - I occasionally go into the Lounges with colleagues and the dog dander in the air, the smell and dopey owners who think it’s perfectly fine to sit their dogs’ shitty arses on the seats is revolting.

YANBU op.

I think they should be in the outside seating areas of cafes and pubs. Zero need to be inside a shop apart from assistance dogs.

Also while I’m here stop taking your dogs into play parks when there’s a sign saying no dogs. It’s a park not a toilet or off lead training ground I also don’t care if you have children with you. Dog stays outside the fence.