to think it’s time to ban dogs from shops and cafes?

YANBU. I like dogs, but I think it's a bit unsavoury having them in cafes when people are cooking and eating food.
I've also been in churches recently where people have brought them in and that doesn't seem right. Not least because, in one, it was quite dim lighting and the dog was on a low, drooping, dark lead and I only just saw it in time and almost tripped and went flying over it. Would have been a nasty scene if I'd fallen face-first on a flagstone floor.
And I live near a garden cemetery/bird reserve where dogs are allowed off-lead and they run off the paths into the undergrowth, and must freak out ground-nesting birds or birds foraging on the ground. Not to mention probably shitting near/on graves (it dates from the 19th C but people still have loved ones buried there and visit).

@Bradbury4858My cafe is incredibly busy so it wouldn’t work. It would be unsafe for all involved imo plus, we have enough to do without cleaning up after animals.

If other cafes want to allow animals then good luck to them, I just follow what I and my staff want

Yeah that’s the problem. Places often dont advertise widely if they are dog free, only if dog friendly! So it doesn’t come up in online searches.

Even when I use booking dot com for hotels I can’t easily filter out the ones that allow dogs. I just have to search for hotels then read each hotel policy to see if it allows dogs or not .

But someone looking for a hotel that allows dog can easily tick filter to request dog friendly hotels.

I was going out for brunch in London and had to call several brunch places before I found ONE that said they didn’t allow dogs. It wasn’t on their website.

And for the ones that did allow dogs some of them didn’t have it on their website, I had to either call them or check their Instagram so tbh they don’t sometimes make it clear when their dog friendly either. More clarity on both sides to cater for everyone would be better.

Dogs aren't allowed in Betty's or York Minster Refectory

So there you have it, @timetoban , posts becoming more and more hysterical in their hating of dog owners (‘rivers of shit’ ffs), until we get here, a vilely insulting post spitting with loathing.

Is that what you wanted?

I now refuse to shop or cafe or accommodation whatever if dogs are welcome.

I was in a rural pub a couple of weeks ago who were saying that despite some nasty reviews on Google and TripAdvisor, their decision to ban dogs from indoors and the beer garden has seen an upsurge in customers and overwhelmingly positive feedback.

Same weekend I walked into a cafe - three dogs and owner arrived in the queue behind me and began barking at another dog in the back. I told the cafe owner why I was leaving.

Vote with your money and tell businesses why.

Our local garden centre has a lovely new 'no dogs please' sign after a poor (probably unwalked dog) did a poo. Not in the cafe thankfully, but in the plant area. The owner didn't have poo bag either 🙄.

Whereas other cafes are increasingly going dog friendly as they know it makes good business sense and you wouldn’t even know the vast majority of dogs are there.

There was a cafe owner on the other dog thread last week saying she’d never had issues at all with dogs in her cafe, how well behaved they all
are and how her cafe was very much dog friendly.

A chippy in a seaside area got a bit of back lash last month when they declared from April-September due to being busy dogs will not be allowed inside.

Some people were just rude on their post.

“Well we will just go to Barbie’s then nicer chips anyway.” “Who wants to eat at this kind of dive then anyway”

Like what’s the need if Barbie’s is nicer go there anyway. If it’s a dive why are you moaning that dogs won’t be allowed inside when busy 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️.

The chippy is actually lovely but it’s rammed always they even have to cancel their delivery service in all school / bank holidays.

But suddenly now it’s a dive and not good 😂

Lovely thread here about how dog friendly Switzerland is.

"Allowed in most places- restaurants, cafes, on public transportation, Only place where dogs are not allowed are in supermarkets."

"Super dog friendly!! Dogs are not allowed in supermarkets but in restaurants and cafes they are allowed in most of them."

www.facebook.com/groups/579389193745176/posts/1139784767705613/

Bloody hell, we had a 1000 post thread on this only last week. Are you the same poster OP….stirring it up again?

ultimately it’s up to the cafe owner. If you don’t like it then jog on. I’m sure many business owners will feel turning away dog owning customers would be worse than the odd person who doesn’t want to visit a dog friendly place. So if you get your wish you might find a lot of places go bust.

cant say I’ve heard of any kids being savaged to death in a cafe.

but I do hope your granddaughter has recovered from the nip she had on her ankle last week.

@OnleemoiIt’s a Costa. A lot of stores allow dogs but it’s down to management.

Our staff had a vote and decided not to allow them in anymore. We already have to clean up shit and piss from the public, we didn’t fancy cleaning it up after dogs too! Which happened a few times, awful.

We still get a lot of pushback from dog owners but we’re an incredibly busy cafe and I don’t think it would be safe for dogs. I say that as a dog owner myself

If I google dog free cafes in York (where I live) all the results are the EXACT OPPOSITE.

Try it:

https://www.google.com/search?q=dog+free+cafe+york&rlz=1CDGOYI_enCH590CH590&oq=dog+free+cafe+york

I hope more coffee shops follow suit and in fact everywhere that serves food should have a sign stating if they accept dogs or not.

So dog owners don’t have to ask if they are allowed or not and those who don’t want dogs there can swerve the dog friendly ones. simple! I think that’s fair and a win for everyone!

I have recently found what seems to be the one coffee shop in my town that doesn’t allow dogs. It’s my new favourite cafe lol

Ooh share the name for everyone who believes there’re no dog free places! It’d be good to start a comprehensive list.

In Switzerland shops / cafes etc provide these handy hooks to clip the leash to while the owner goes inside and their sentient plaything remains safely outside. Let’s have this, away from the door so you can enter and leave without being bothered.

Next to the ashtray so all the antisocial shit stays out of the indoor space.

Have you ever had dog hair in your food?
That’s hilarious

We had a 'river of shit' at 13:36 today courtesy of @Graygoose3

Also had an attempt at 'waitresses hands'.

Waiting now for 'dander on clothes I'm buying'.

I work for a popular coffee shop and we have now banned dogs from our store.

At first it wasn’t too bad but it became too much bother. If you do take take your dogs into cafes please don’t let them sit on the furniture or piss up it. Also don’t feed them from the crockery and if your dog starts barking at other dogs, take it outside ffs.

That’s awful and then some
dog owners have the nerve to roll their eyes when I give their dogs a wide berth in enclosed spaces.

It’s an accident waiting to happen. Noisy sometimes hot crowded places full of strangers. Not surprised dogs just snap sometimes.

I live on the 4th floor. I was taking my bin bags out so took the lift. A couple of floors down a man with a dog that has previously lunged at me and other residents tried to enter.

I resented getting out to take the stairs as o was unwell, but there was no way I was going to be traveling in the lift with that dog. Had he been a more considerate owner he’d have waiting for the lift go down knowing what his dogs like, then called it up again. Or used the darn stairs!

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Well to the successful banning bit locally. Not the rest.

Rivers of shit. That was on the most recent thread.

Responsible dog owners walk their dogs, tuck them up at home to chill then pop to the shops without them.

Dogs don't like crowded areas, they often aren't keen on other dogs either so get a few in a cafe and there are often lunges and barking. Not nice for other customers.

They should not be on seats but it isn't nice for them to on the floor where people stand on them or trip over them either.

If you have your dog with you get a takeway coffee. If you want to sit and chat leave the poor thing at home.

Taunton is a market town in the middle of dog friendly country.

You can't take dogs in the shopping centres there. Nor Miles Cafe the lovely local cafe or either of the two Wetherspoons pubs. The main town park allows dogs but only on leads and no dogs at all in the large play areas.

People who say there is nowhere you can go where dogs aren't allowed are lying.

Runners and picnics.