to think it’s time to ban dogs from shops and cafes?

The dogs were sat on customers seats! I, a customer, had to ask the staff to tell them get their dogs off the seats. They then flounced off in a strop. Hardly polite behaviour.

They shouldn't have been on seats.

Do they? Not sure I would take my dog but he does like watching tv. He sits on the sofa and watches for ages.

Problem is though if there is any sort of animal on screen from a mouse to an elephant he flies off the sofa to bite the tv! Then when the animals goes away he looks behind the tv to see where it has gone.

Some people here would not be happy about the Curzon cinema having dog friendly viewings. 😁

so the idea that businesses allow dogs to run
riot is nonsense then? They were told to collect their dog and did.

another non event.

Yes it's always worth asking. We went in a coffee shop where 3 big dogs were sat on chairs. I asked the staff to kindly ask the owners to get them off customers chairs. They took it badly and flounced but still, job done .

We don't know who reports what. Ive had posts deleted on other threads, it's the way it goes. To talk about me like this as I'm not here is a bit unpleasant tbh.

I'm more than happy to be challenged. Challenge away!

I know I can't believe mumsnet actually listened to her.

Gloria had a post of mine deleted because I called her odd - this was for insisting she knows what strangers in coffee shops did before and after their visit.

The poster cannot take any form of challenging on a discussion forum. 😂

ETA - what is even weirder is that mumsnet went along with it! Which beggars belief

I am with you on the shellfish , same here I just have to be careful.

And to your other point - our lovely village pub! Dogs very welcome, spoiled with treats and ear rubs, don't have to be on lead and everybody keeps an eye on everyone's dogs to make sure they dont stray down to the restaurant area (or out the door). 🐾

ETA - the dogs love it. Especially when they get sausages from the kitchen.

Every single business in your city is already thinking about it and none have implemented it? Wonder why that is 🤷

yeah right. Every single day there is at least 1 dog not only offlead but also running to you. Please do take some photos. I love dogs and would love to see them

Many many people object to people smoking. It may be outside but I still dislike it intensely. So I can't sit outside if people are smoking and I have to accept that as you have to accept that people will take dogs to a place where they are allowed to.

Normal social interaction is not talking and laughing so loudly I can't have a conversation with my DH. They may be allowed to do so but have they no social etiquette and thought for others?

I am a very very very very very very very considerate dog owner

I would add though that yes, you are probably right it would be better to make the suggestion at the other pubs, I mean I have quite a bit on my plate f the moment so haven't frequented many of them recently anyway. I was in a pub in central London yesterday where a small terrier dog was running riot with it's lead still attached, it went behind the bar, the owners laughing the bar person wasn't impressed and asked them to get it under control as it was a packed pub and really not suitable for an erratic dog as a trip hazard but obviously they allow dogs so that was that.

Mumsnet is a discussion forum I'm discussing it. Why would I mention it to them if they were already thinking about it. Tbh it's where I got the idea in the first place.

There’s a difference between meeting off lead dogs daily and every day a dog running up and jumping all over you.
Dogs should be under control in public though.

Why so extreme in your response. I think your reply suggests a moral blindness and actually a form of intolerance that fails to empathise with the lives of others.

I really couldn’t give a shiny shit what you believe. My experience is that where I live rurally, I run into dog walkers with off lead dogs in a field. Daily.

Many of them with zero recall too. Shall I take some pics for you next time?

'Plenty of places I go with my quiet dog has people talking and laughing very very loudly'

This is normal social interaction. Your comments about smoking not sure apply as these are in outdoor areas only. I don't object to dogs outdoors, obviously.

Many, many people object to dogs in coffee shops and restaurants. Please try and be a considerate dog owner. I manage it fine.

Sorry but I think it is ridiculous to say that although dogs are allowed in a coffee shop dog owners should not be taking them in there because some (few) people don't like it.

I think far more rude and unsociable is people smoking in the street and in pub gardens but they are allowed to so I have to put up with it.

Where do we stop with the "it's allowed but anyone with any manners or social etiquette would not do it"? Children are allowed in supermarkets but a lot of the time they are a total pain the arse. Couples don't have to drag their children to a supermarket do they? One could go and the other stay at home cosy with the child or children. They could shop when the child or children are at school or nursery. Pretty sure the children don't enjoy being dragged to and round a supermarket

Challenge my points fine, disagree fine. I wouldn't be so rude as to say anything you say is 'ridiculous' so please try to do the same. As I said earlier try social skills and a bit of social etiquette.

I am sorry but I cannot believe that on EVERY single walk you have a dog run up to you. On some walks maybe but not every single one. I walk a lot because of my dog and by far the majority of dogs are on a lead. Sometimes there is one that's not and I dislike it running up to my dog but it's not that often

People are loud and raucous in pubs 🤷🏻‍♀️ I’ve had beer spilled on me, have to listen to swearing etc. We are all free to chose where we frequent.

It’s very unpleasant for other users goes back to not ordering a raclette or fish in case other people don’t like the smell. Just becuase the restaurant serves it, doesn’t mean you have to order it.

People have all sorts of fears and allergies, we can’t ban everything.