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to think it’s time to ban dogs from shops and cafes?

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timetoban · 10/04/2026 13:07

I’ve just read a BBC article about the increase in dog attacks in the UK.

Dogs seem to be everywhere now. Cafes, shops, even places where food is being served. I’m not anti-dog at all, but I don’t really want to be eating or shopping surrounded by them.

It’s not just about preference either. Some people are allergic, some are genuinely scared, and others just don’t want to deal with barking, smells or dogs getting under their feet. The BBC piece even mentioned people feeling like they have to avoid going out because dogs are everywhere now.

I also don’t really get how it’s hygienic in places serving food. I know people say “well-behaved dogs are fine” but not all dogs are well-behaved, and staff aren’t exactly going to challenge every owner.

Before anyone says it, yes obviously assistance dogs are different and should be allowed. That’s not what I mean.

I just feel like we’ve swung too far the other way where dog owners expect to take them absolutely everywhere, and everyone else just has to put up with it.

Surely it’s not unreasonable to have more dog-free indoor spaces again?

OP posts:
Onleemoi · 10/04/2026 20:47

YeOldeGreyhound · 10/04/2026 20:44

Yep. If I went to a place and they said no to dogs, then I go elsewhere.
On MN, someone who hates dogs goes to a place that allows dogs, and they have a toddler level tantrum and expect a private business to bend to their will.

They also think because they saw a dog in a cafe once it never stays at home or goes anywhere else.

Bradbury4858 · 10/04/2026 20:47

Letmehaveabloodyusernameplease · 10/04/2026 20:43

That's different, this is mainly about owners who take their dog on every outing every week and don't get me wrong, I am a dog lover and yes, there are responsible owners but it's the irresponsible owners that cause the problems, maybe it's because when I grew up we left our dog at home when we went out. Suddenly dogs have become incapable of being left alone for a couple of hours.

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Taking a dog to a cafe once a week is hardly a big deal is it.

Bradbury4858 · 10/04/2026 20:45

Letmehaveabloodyusernameplease · 10/04/2026 20:34

Our local and two of the cafes we visit have banned dogs after pissing / shitting incidents and general untruliness of dogs caused by couldn't care less owners so yes, there are incidents, the tide is turning in some places.
And for the poster who mentioned dog theft if they were to leave their dog tied up outside then here's an idea. LEAVE IT AT HOME

Seeing the opposite round here. Places increasingly turning doggy friendly and those that already were upping facilities- individual
bowls of water and even doggy menus .

Funny,we use dog friendly cafes and restaurants a lot and have never witnessed pissing/ shitting incidents or unruly dogs. Not seeing any change policy either.

YeOldeGreyhound · 10/04/2026 20:44

Onleemoi · 10/04/2026 20:41

I’ll take my dog places he’s allowed as long as he’s allowed. If things change then so be it. I won’t be whinging on here week in and week out because some places don’t run according to my preferences.

Yep. If I went to a place and they said no to dogs, then I go elsewhere.
On MN, someone who hates dogs goes to a place that allows dogs, and they have a toddler level tantrum and expect a private business to bend to their will.

Whydidyouletmedown · 10/04/2026 20:44

Onleemoi · 10/04/2026 20:41

I’ll take my dog places he’s allowed as long as he’s allowed. If things change then so be it. I won’t be whinging on here week in and week out because some places don’t run according to my preferences.

It’s likely that more places will allow dogs in the future rather than less.

Letmehaveabloodyusernameplease · 10/04/2026 20:43

YeOldeGreyhound · 10/04/2026 20:37

I took my Ddog on holiday with me. I had no choice but to take her into places with me.

That's different, this is mainly about owners who take their dog on every outing every week and don't get me wrong, I am a dog lover and yes, there are responsible owners but it's the irresponsible owners that cause the problems, maybe it's because when I grew up we left our dog at home when we went out. Suddenly dogs have become incapable of being left alone for a couple of hours.

Onleemoi · 10/04/2026 20:41

I’ll take my dog places he’s allowed as long as he’s allowed. If things change then so be it. I won’t be whinging on here week in and week out because some places don’t run according to my preferences.

YeOldeGreyhound · 10/04/2026 20:37

Letmehaveabloodyusernameplease · 10/04/2026 20:34

Our local and two of the cafes we visit have banned dogs after pissing / shitting incidents and general untruliness of dogs caused by couldn't care less owners so yes, there are incidents, the tide is turning in some places.
And for the poster who mentioned dog theft if they were to leave their dog tied up outside then here's an idea. LEAVE IT AT HOME

I took my Ddog on holiday with me. I had no choice but to take her into places with me.

Letmehaveabloodyusernameplease · 10/04/2026 20:34

Our local and two of the cafes we visit have banned dogs after pissing / shitting incidents and general untruliness of dogs caused by couldn't care less owners so yes, there are incidents, the tide is turning in some places.
And for the poster who mentioned dog theft if they were to leave their dog tied up outside then here's an idea. LEAVE IT AT HOME

Whydidyouletmedown · 10/04/2026 20:26

AlcoholicAntibiotic · 10/04/2026 20:22

Then plan to go when your dog isn’t with you, or get food delivered.

Discrimination FFS.

If it’s a business decision to allow dogs, it’s a business decision not to allow dogs. Suck it up.

Times are a-changing. Mark my words, the doggie revolution is coming

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AlcoholicAntibiotic · 10/04/2026 20:22

Whydidyouletmedown · 10/04/2026 20:14

My thoughts exactly. That’s why we should be campaigning to allow dogs everywhere as it is discrimation against single people with dogs otherwise. I can’t go in a supermarket when I’m out with my dog on my own as I won’t leave her outside.

Then plan to go when your dog isn’t with you, or get food delivered.

Discrimination FFS.

If it’s a business decision to allow dogs, it’s a business decision not to allow dogs. Suck it up.

YeOldeGreyhound · 10/04/2026 20:22

JulietteHasAGun · 10/04/2026 20:19

I don’t need to justify it to anyone here. If it’s allowed it’s allowed. 🤷‍♀️

I also don’t care if people don’t want my dog near them. I don’t let my dog go up to people or encroach on their table. What’s happening at my table is nothing to do with them. Any dog germs aren’t going to fly over to them anymore than a germ off someone’s shoe is. My dog doesn’t bark.

If anything I’m fed up with the none dog owners coming and asking to stroke my dog. I always smile and let them, especially if it’s kids. Because I’m nice like that.

Same.
If a kid came up and asked to say hi to my dog, then that was a lovely bit of interaction and I enjoyed it, as did my dog.

But I don't get the impression that anyone with a dog is sat there giving eyes to everyone and getting pissed off that they don't want to say hi to their dog. Like you said, we preferred it they didn't. I just wanted to sit and chill with a coffee, and my dog at my feet.

JulietteHasAGun · 10/04/2026 20:22

timetoban · 10/04/2026 20:13

What is whinny about it?

If it so boring, don't join in.

It’s kind of the epitome of whining and entitlement. Oh no, you don’t like what the owner of a business chooses to do with their own business 😆

JulietteHasAGun · 10/04/2026 20:19

LighthouseLola · 10/04/2026 16:16

All the people who hate these dog posts, why keep joining in?

Because they take their dogs in cafes and feel like they have to justify it.
Also can't bear to think someone might not want their dog near them.
Have you seen the reactions when you ask them to get their dog away from you?

I don’t need to justify it to anyone here. If it’s allowed it’s allowed. 🤷‍♀️

I also don’t care if people don’t want my dog near them. I don’t let my dog go up to people or encroach on their table. What’s happening at my table is nothing to do with them. Any dog germs aren’t going to fly over to them anymore than a germ off someone’s shoe is. My dog doesn’t bark.

If anything I’m fed up with the none dog owners coming and asking to stroke my dog. I always smile and let them, especially if it’s kids. Because I’m nice like that.

Whydidyouletmedown · 10/04/2026 20:14

mydogisthebest · 10/04/2026 20:06

Well when I choose to take my dog to a public place I never leave him outside. If he cannot go into a place then I don't go into it either. No way on earth am I going to leave him outside for some arsehole to steal, kick or whatever. Far too many lunatics about

My thoughts exactly. That’s why we should be campaigning to allow dogs everywhere as it is discrimation against single people with dogs otherwise. I can’t go in a supermarket when I’m out with my dog on my own as I won’t leave her outside.

timetoban · 10/04/2026 20:13

Keepingthingsinteresting · 10/04/2026 18:34

You make a whinny post, we are entitled to respond and disagree. It’s also really boring to keep wanging on about the same thing week after week.
We get some people don’t like dogs, that’s fine for them, but they don’t get to set the rules for other people. We live in a (largely) free and capitalistic company, if a business owner wants to allow dogs they can and your only impact on that is to choose not to use them. If allowing dogs was depressing their business they wouldn’t do so, ergo you are in the minority.

What is whinny about it?

If it so boring, don't join in.

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YeOldeGreyhound · 10/04/2026 20:08

mydogisthebest · 10/04/2026 20:06

Well when I choose to take my dog to a public place I never leave him outside. If he cannot go into a place then I don't go into it either. No way on earth am I going to leave him outside for some arsehole to steal, kick or whatever. Far too many lunatics about

I took my dog into places she was allowed. If there are clips somewhere then that implies that dogs are not allowed in the establishments.
But on MN, taking a dog into somewhere that welcomes dogs is still wrong.

mydogisthebest · 10/04/2026 20:06

MandingoAteMyBaby · 10/04/2026 18:08

If you choose to bring a dog to a public place and have to leave it outside of that place, it’s just a risk you have to take. Even locked cars are easily stolen.

I pointed out that many Swiss shops have clips outside to attach dogs to, that demonstrates that it’s a viable solution.

Maybe if you feel you need a lock, dogs could be locked to posts with a bike lock if a clip isn’t enough and dog owners don’t want to pay to use a cage.

Well when I choose to take my dog to a public place I never leave him outside. If he cannot go into a place then I don't go into it either. No way on earth am I going to leave him outside for some arsehole to steal, kick or whatever. Far too many lunatics about

mydogisthebest · 10/04/2026 20:04

Gloriia · 10/04/2026 18:10

'We also regularly walk our dog in 2 local cemeteries'

Dogs aren't allowed in our local cemetery thankfully, even if they were allowed it'd be the last place I'd want to walk ours out of respect. It just doesn't seem right does it dogs sniffing about and toileting in such an important place for the bereaved.

Some dog owners just do not get it, walk them and leave them cosy at home. Show some respect and consideration for other people.

We do walk our dog, sometimes in a park, sometimes woods, sometimes a country park, sometimes along the canal, sometimes around street and often in a cemetery. We want him to experience different places, sights and smells.

Obviously we would never let him toilet on or near a grave. The two cemeteries we go to have quite a lot of grass areas and one has some woodland in it. I just don't see what is disrespectful about walking a dog there.

After we have had our walk we like to go for maybe lunch or just a coffee so why would we trek home to leave our dog and then go out again especially if we are already in or near a town?

He doesn't want or need to be cosy at home all the time. He can be cosy at home with us in the evening. Also we show plenty of respect and consideration for other people thank you

Villanousvillans · 10/04/2026 19:40

You are far more likely to catch something horrible from a human than a dog.

YeOldeGreyhound · 10/04/2026 19:38

LotusMandala · 10/04/2026 19:36

I agree with you. Every time I’m out walking, people seem to think I want their dog jumping at me or that i find their dog as cute as they do.

I fucking don’t. Cool that you do, but I don’t. Especially not when I’m eating.

Are you a mind reader? I thought my dog was amazing, but I am curious as to how you think I was wanting you to think the same too.

LotusMandala · 10/04/2026 19:36

I agree with you. Every time I’m out walking, people seem to think I want their dog jumping at me or that i find their dog as cute as they do.

I fucking don’t. Cool that you do, but I don’t. Especially not when I’m eating.

Tutorpuzzle · 10/04/2026 19:10

Superhansrantowindsor · 10/04/2026 18:59

No I’m a long way from Windsor.
Yes I can totally see it makes good business sense to allow dogs since they are so popular as pets now but I think a business would be pleasantly surprised if they had the USP of being dog free. This thread and local Facebook groups show that it would be appreciated by many.

I’m sure it would be very popular from now until October. But, and this is entirely from my anecdotal evidence, come the dripping, freezing, November to March period they would probably struggle without the dog walking clientele.

But keep going with your Facebook campaign, I think you’re the first person on this thread that’s actually doing something to get a dog free cafe.

YeOldeGreyhound · 10/04/2026 19:08

inamarina · 10/04/2026 19:05

Same. We often eat in dog friendly pubs and not once have I found a dog hair in my food.

I had my dog for 15 years, and I never found a dog hair in my food in my own house. She was not banned from anywhere.

inamarina · 10/04/2026 19:05

Blorengia · 10/04/2026 14:36

Have you actually found a dog hair in food served in an establishment?
I've only once found a hair in my food and that was clearly a human one. 🙂

Same. We often eat in dog friendly pubs and not once have I found a dog hair in my food.