to think it’s time to ban dogs from shops and cafes?

Funny,we use dog friendly cafes and restaurants a lot and have never witnessed pissing/ shitting incidents or unruly dogs. Not seeing any change policy either

I've seen a dog shit in a garden centre and another dog shit in a shop.
It's pretty vile.

Also cages I know I know. But good for storing husbands while shopping 😏😏

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You were on holiday, in, I would wager, a holiday resort, or a place with other holidaymakers. The majority of dog owners take their dogs on holiday with them, after all, they're part of the family. Most, if not all, holiday lets, caravans, and even campsites where people have their own tents, vans, motorhomes, etc specify that dogs must not be left alone. Therefore, if those people want to go out anywhere, the dog goes with them.
We didn't rescue our dog from an awful life, just to put her back behind bars, in kennels, when it suits us. She'd be terrified. We still find there's quite a few places we can't take her. We don't mind, we just move on. You mention your cat. Completely different scenario, and not worth mentioning in the context of this post tbh

Is this a joke? Absolutely no reason you can think of why you might not want to leave a dog in a car on a warm day? Or in a cage?

This^ as a dog owner I always had to research where was actually dog friendly and where really only meant dogs could sit outside. When you're away for the day with your dog I'm not sure what people expect you to do when you need to eat, especially if on holiday.

It means you may need to do a bit more research on where is definitely not dog friendly but that's no different than what dog owners are doing. What you're really saying is that you feel EVERYWHERE should cater to your preference. I think some places should cater to different (dog friendly) preferences. You take your business where it suits as would I.

It is the height of entitlement to presume everywhere should only cater to you. It's just as bad as a dog owner demanding to take their dog in everywhere.

Haha! 😂

Do the cages mean the children leave you alone as well. Asking for a friend 😂😂😂

Yes - this 🤣

Good solution - the people who don’t like dogs can stay in the car or a coin-operated cage. Problem solved

Same. My dog was settled on her mat on the floor.

There's no need because so many places are dog friendly now.

No, my lovely dog lies under the table, good as gold. We are usually stopping in the middle of a walk so she knows it her time to rest while we eat and then we carry on our outing. We often get told that people didn’t even realise she was there til we get up to leave.

I guess leave it in the car / home or coin-operated cages perhaps could work.

Exactly this. It makes me so angry when i see owners tie them up outside.

So many stolen sweet natured pets being used as warm up bait for fighting dog rings. Could cry thinking about it. It happens. Probably happening right now. Fucking awful.

Never ever leave your dog tied up outside a shop/cafe.

Do you have a dog, your Excellency?

I don't want to leave my dog at home thank you and now so many places allow him in I don't have to.

Me and DH have had dogs for over 40 years and for most of that time, apart from when we lived in France, we have had to sit outside with him if we wanted to eat even if it was pouring with rain or freezing cold. We could not take him to hotels because none accepted them (again in France they did). When we went on holiday with our dog we were not going to leave them alone in the accommodation so we always had to sit outside and eat and some places (Wetherspoons being one) didn't and still do not allow dogs even in the garden.

Also our present dog is a rescue and when we got him last year he was very stressed and anxious and just could not be left as he would cry and howl and pace the room. Were we meant to just leave him when he was that upset? So we took him out with us. Now he can be left although we would never leave him more than 3 or, at the most, 4 hours and not on a regular basis. If we want to go out for the day maybe to the coast or anywhere a bit of a distance from home we take him and we will want to eat and drink while we are out so we go to dog friendly places.

That’s the attitude! Much better than expecting things to change to suit you. Well done.

I had a dog that used to pull us to the pub on walks but only after 12.00. How did he know when opening time was?

I still miss him every day so I completely understand how you feel.

Here we go again 🙄Well I love taking my dog places with me and he makes people smile , so there

Well good for them.

Worry not there will be multiple dog owners in your place, hence the owner deciding to be dog friendly, as is their right.

Dogs don't live long enough. I cherished every moment in a cafe I spent with her.

However will they cope?

It is if the owner can't control it. We avoid cafes with dogs now so no business for them from us.