to think it’s time to ban dogs from shops and cafes?

Never? Are you stalking them or just making shit up again?

'This is what has changed: a massive increase in dog-owing, often by people who prioritise their lifestyle over the needs of their dog, and the love of visiting cafes and shops instead of taking these critters for proper walks'

This. A lot of dog owners just do not understand that dogs like walks, sniffing, being outdoors playing. They don't like crowded noisy areas, being stood on, tripped over and being treated like the nuisance they are fidgeting and whining in coffee shops.

Walk them, play with them and them leave them happily at home while you go for your cake and coffee.

I'm off now for a brisk walk and guarantee the sensible dog owners I see out will not be crammed indoors later with their poor pooch getting stood on in a Costa or similar. Likewise the coffee shop goers never seem to be out walking!

I do not give custom to eating places that allow dogs or buy goods from the shops. Like many many others, I just go elsewhere and the business loses the money. Dogs owners are very vocal as soon as they cannot take their animal somewhere, but businesses under estimate the trade they unknowingly lose.

One where the temperature of the interior of a parked car doesn’t exceed 19’C

So not true. The service industry is on its knees as is the high street.

I think the bigger picture is that, over the last 30 or so years, shopping and cafe going have become major leisure pursuits at the same time as vastly more people have bought dogs.

Once dogs were either working dogs: sheepdogs, police dogs, gun dogs etc or family pets, but there were far fewer of them and owners didn't expect to take them absolutely everywhere with them (even in handbags, God help us!).

This is what has changed: a massive increase in dog-owing, often by people who prioritise their lifestyle over the needs of their dog, and the love of visiting cafes and shops instead of taking these critters for proper walks.

Sadly, can confirm that people do change nappies on restaurant tables, and are brazen about it! - even though where I worked at the time, had changing facilities.
Can also confirm that on several occasions, we have had to clean up human (adult) poo from not only the entire mens toilets, ( including the ceiling but none in the actual loo!) but from the restaurant floor as well. We have had children announcing they need a poo, Mummy has ignored them, so they’ve dropped trousers and pooed where they stood!
Mummy wasn’t interested in cleaning it up either!
In 20+ years in hospitality, I’ve seen every human bodily fluid, drugs, illicit alcohol and the worst of human behaviour.
I like dogs.

Thanks for that, Einstein. What exactly is a ‘normal’ temp day in your expert opinion?

On a normal temp day the car is fine; if it’s warm then use the cage. Not hard.

A mature and informative answer.

We went into an almost empty cafe with our dog, when we were on holiday. We were turned away and sent in the direction of another cafe that did allow dogs. The dog cafe was so busy, we had to wait for a table.

Yawn.

There's a gorgeous English bull terrier near us called King George the Third.

I can't think he'd take kindly to Asda.

I have seen several mums change nappies on tables in Costa

That's disgusting as well. I've never seen that happen but I do believe it.
Doesn't take away from the fact that dogs shit on the floor in shops.
Neither scenario is acceptable.

I love an EBT. My grandad used to call them bullet heads.

Well there’s always the odd one out isn’t there.

My neighbours have an English bull terrier and shop exclusively at Waitrose. I’ll let them know they’re really only meant to shop at Asda shall I?

There was a comment on yet another dog thread, where someone was on a bus/train. Her dog was under the seat and no one noticed it.
After a two hour journey, she got up with her dog and the lady opposite suddenly gasped and said the dog set off her allergies.
Now tell me what sort of allergies are only triggered when you notice your trigger.

I’m going to sound horrible but I can’t say I’ve seen anyone who looks like they would shop in John Lewis own a bull type breed.

I’m always confused by the “some people are allergic” line, often followed by “assistance dogs are different obviously”.

allergies have no idea if your dog is employed or unemployed.

They allow dogs in my local John Lewis. I have yet to see any bull breeds in there biting peoples’ faces off.

You get a nicer class of dog in John Lewis.

Oops, soz. Have a few more 🐩🐩🐩🐩🐩🐩🐩🐩🐩

I find this really offensive.

(That you used only two poodles in the revolution march. )

I agree this is a country over run by dogs, not a dog person but... in fairness a lot of humans aren't that pleasant! So I can sort of understand why more and more humans are choosing animal company over human??

I have seen several mums change nappies on tables in Costa.