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AIBU to wonder what work are expecting me to do?

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FriskyHeeler · 10/04/2026 11:59

I've worked at my current employer for 3 years and recently had a change in circumstances (in February) which means I have no childcare for my 3 children after school for 1-2 days out of the week. They have been understanding and accomodated my needs so far but have asked me to look at what realistic options are available and have called a meeting for next week to discuss, as the situation is not sustainable long term. I'll outline the facts below, please read carefully because it's not as simple a solution as most people seem to think.

  • I work 8.30 - 5pm Monday to Friday and it takes me 30 mins to get to and from work.
  • My husband works 8 - 4.30 Monday to Friday, his office is an hour away and he works from home on Thursdays and Fridays. Soon to be 3 days a week. He used to work nights, so would drop off and pick up the kids each day, however the strain on family life, our relationship, his mental health was not sustainable and he had numerous breakdowns over a long period of time and he changed jobs. Not ideal but I won't make my husband do a job he hated when it made him want to kill himself every day. He can be quite volatile and in the past this has affected work when he last left for periods of time so I've been left to sort the kids 100% of the time, at times. Work know things are rocky and my line manager thinks I should leave him but this would only make the situation more difficult.
  • Our kids are 3, 5 & 9. The 3 & 5 year olds attend the same school/nursery and the 9 year old attends a different school.
  • 2 out of the 3 kids have special needs and are settled in their schools. They previously attended the same primary school but had serious issues so we had to move them.
  • Both schools have breakfast club, 1 starts at 7.50 and the other at 8.10, this obviously means I am often 10 mins late to work on the days they are in club.
  • Neither school has ANY after school provision.
  • We unfortunately live in an area where wrap around care isn't in demand, so options are pretty non existent.
  • There are no childminders in the area that currently or are willing to pick up from either/both of their schools.
  • Their are a couple of local nurseries that do after school club and they collect the kids from school and walk back to their premises. 1 of my kids is a flight risk so I do not feel comfortable with this as an option. He has escaped and ran off from his old school twice before.
  • We cannot afford a nanny, prices are between £15 - 20 and hour when I have enquired and tbh, given my kids additional needs, I don't think anyone would last a week with them, they are VERY full on.
  • My dad can collect the kids 1 day a week at an absolute push but it's his only day off and if he has plans it's not a given he can do it, I don't expect him to plan his life around MY kids. My dad works the other 4 days a week and my mom doesn't work but has stopped driving for health reasons so cannot pick them up and she is not physically able to walk/get the bus etc and as previously stated, 1 of them is a flight risk and she wouldnt be able to run after him if needed. A taxi for her to pick them up and go back to hers would be far too expensive multiple times a week as she has done this once before in an emergency and it was £30 for one pick up, let alone 2.
  • There are no other parents at either of their schools that we know well enough to ask. We have no other friends or family in the area at all, aside from my mom and dad.
  • So far, on days where my husband is in the office, I finish work at 14:40, pick up the kids from school and then log on at home for the remainder of the day, sometimes beyond 5pm.
  • I am a supervisor and our team is growing and I will be responsible for up to 12 people eventually so work are saying I cannot effectively supervise if I am not in the office. We also have a lot of new team members (one being another supervisor) who are not fully trained so things tend to fall to shit a lot of them time if I am not there.
  • Not to toot my own horn but i am the glue that holds the entire team together, and effectively, if I were to leave because I need more long term flexibility, they would be absolutely fucked. My line manager and our department manager knows this all too well, but are still pressuring me to find some magical solution that doesn't exist so I can be there 8.30-5 every single day. They've not said they will get rid of me, and I don't think they would, but they're saying I need to work my hours I am employed to do. I agree with this and have no issues with that, I've often said I will taken leave, take the time unpaid etc and they have always said no.
  • I could put in a flexible working request to reduce my hours 1-2 days a week, but it would actually be a waste of time, as they can and would refuse it for a legitimate business reason.

I don't know what to do or what I'm supposed to say during this meeting. If you've thought of something I haven't explored above then please please let me know. I'm obviously going to explain all of the above in detail about what I've looked into and why it's not a viable option and see what they say. I'm also considering telling them I'm looking else where for something more flexible in the hope that they back down, but I don't actually want to leave, I really do enjoy working there and don't want to jump ship and end up being somewhere I don't like, or having to take a pay cut that I can't really afford.

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T1822 · 10/04/2026 21:19

I haven’t read all of the replies so apologise if this has already been said. But for your children with SEND, do they have a care package (direct payments) that could be used to employ someone from their school on a regular basis to provide after school care? Even if they don’t have direct payments it might be worth contacting their schools to see if anyone would be able to provide after school support.

ChasingMoreSleep · 10/04/2026 21:13

FriskyHeeler · 10/04/2026 20:54

My eldest doesn't yet, because his last school didn't submit the paperwork when they said they did, and I stupidly believed them. His new school won't submit one until he'd been at the school for a certain period of time because they didn't know him until September and had no evidence they could submit.

We've applied for the middle one recently. Does anybody know what the criteria is for school transport? I don't know if he'd be eligible.

You can request an EHCNA yourself now. On their website IPSEA has a model letter you can use.

You don’t need an EHCP to be eligible for transport. There are different ways of qualifying. For compulsory school aged DC, one way is via distance, if DC are attending the nearest suitable school and the shortest suitable walking distance is more than 2 miles for DC2 and 3 miles for DC1 they would be eligible. Another way is if they can’t reasonably be expected to walk to school because of their SEN whatever the distance. You would still need someone at home to meet the transport, though.

FriskyHeeler · 10/04/2026 20:59

IWaffleAlot · 10/04/2026 20:45

I feel for you op. Childcare is one of the biggest stresses. I really hope you find a solution.

It really really is. Thank you. I think negotiating flexibility with work is going to be the ideal situation rather than trying to find potential multiple childcare solutions that could end up being short lived anyway. Not to be a pesimist, but all 3 kids have been asked to leave childcare at one time or another, so even if I did find this magical unicorn childcare, it's not to say it would even work out in the long term.

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FriskyHeeler · 10/04/2026 20:54

User79853257976 · 10/04/2026 20:27

Also do the two children with SEN have EHCPs? You could ask for a review and request school transport. Obviously the timings in the morning would need to be worked out and in the afternoon they could be dropped at the nursery whilst your eldest is walked by nursery staff.

Edited

My eldest doesn't yet, because his last school didn't submit the paperwork when they said they did, and I stupidly believed them. His new school won't submit one until he'd been at the school for a certain period of time because they didn't know him until September and had no evidence they could submit.

We've applied for the middle one recently. Does anybody know what the criteria is for school transport? I don't know if he'd be eligible.

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IWaffleAlot · 10/04/2026 20:45

I feel for you op. Childcare is one of the biggest stresses. I really hope you find a solution.

FriskyHeeler · 10/04/2026 20:45

Bunnycat101 · 10/04/2026 20:18

Can you clarify what you’re earning. £1800 after tax doesn’t sound like you’re earning enough to be selling your soul and doing the hours you’re doing. I assumed your contract was 37.5 hours before but if it is actual 40 you should be getting a higher rate for that.

This was when I first started, I've had a promotion and several pay rises since then. I was just making a point to the post about not having a good run or free or no childcare.

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ladyamy · 10/04/2026 20:41

Eddielizzard · 10/04/2026 12:57

Sounds to me like they're going to have to suck it up. Leaving 3 days a week at 14.40 isn't the end of the world, and you clearly are doing a great job. Soon it'll be 2 days a week.

If they have a high staff turnover, they can't expect miracles from their good staff or they'll be shooting themselves in the foot.

One solution you could give them is that they pay for a nanny. Because realistically, that's the only sort of childcare that will enable you to stay at work. And you'd have to find an absolute gem who would be at the more expensive end of the scale.

Good luck. It's so hard, and you're doing your best.

Offer that they pay for a nanny 😂😂😂

NoisyGreenNewt · 10/04/2026 20:27

If you are invaluable to the company, you should angle for a decent payrise.

Ultimately, children and childcare cost money. Has your husband looked at work on the side to make up the pay cut he's taken? Or come out of work and claim disability benefits for his mental health? While I understand coming off nightshifts, they are truly awful, you must have considered the finacial viability of this situation before. Obviously the job market is not great at the moment, but from what I can see you both need to start looking for a more tenable solution.

I am not entirely sure what you want out of this thread.

User79853257976 · 10/04/2026 20:27

Also do the two children with SEN have EHCPs? You could ask for a review and request school transport. Obviously the timings in the morning would need to be worked out and in the afternoon they could be dropped at the nursery whilst your eldest is walked by nursery staff.

User79853257976 · 10/04/2026 20:22

Could you get an SEN buggy for the child who is a flight risk?

Bunnycat101 · 10/04/2026 20:18

Can you clarify what you’re earning. £1800 after tax doesn’t sound like you’re earning enough to be selling your soul and doing the hours you’re doing. I assumed your contract was 37.5 hours before but if it is actual 40 you should be getting a higher rate for that.

FriskyHeeler · 10/04/2026 20:15

bigboykitty · 10/04/2026 20:08

Which is absolutely normal. I paid for 8 years of nursery and 10 years of after school club in total. Nothing unusual about that.

I know?! The original poster I was responding to said I'd had a good run of no/free childcare, I responded to that comment clarifying I in fact, hadn't!? What is that so difficult to understand?

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Geepee71 · 10/04/2026 20:14

I think you need to condense it down in to what you can do, not what you can't.

So focus on
On x days I can work x hours
On x day I need to finish at x time
And see if your work pattern can be adjusted accordingly

You cannot work from home and supervise 3 children as sole adult at the same time, sorry, but you just can't. There are health and safety implications, also you would not be goving 100% either to work or your children.

Squirrelchops1 makes a great suggestion

bigboykitty · 10/04/2026 20:08

FriskyHeeler · 10/04/2026 20:01

I do know that, I'm just clarifying that I've not had a good run of free or no childcare?

Which is absolutely normal. I paid for 8 years of nursery and 10 years of after school club in total. Nothing unusual about that.

Velumental · 10/04/2026 20:04

Thisle · 10/04/2026 19:56

Really sad how some people on this thread seem to think a workplace just does not need to be flexible. They pay you for work, they don't own you and you don't owe them your soul. Doesn't sound like OP is a casualty nurse or something, it's so old-fashioned to act like she's asking for the moon here.

Also funny the number of people (probably Londoners and South-Easterners) who don't seem to get that there are plenty of places in the UK where hiring a nanny just isn't possible because no-one does it and no-one within a feasible distance actually wants that work. Presuming there's uni students even living within a distance that would make it worthwhile them taking that work.

It sounds like they HAVE been flexible for a couple of months though.

FriskyHeeler · 10/04/2026 20:01

BudgetBuster · 10/04/2026 19:59

You do realise most parents are in the same boat with one parent basically working for the price of childcare? It's just what happens when kids are small and need full time care... its not a "bad run".

I do know that, I'm just clarifying that I've not had a good run of free or no childcare?

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BudgetBuster · 10/04/2026 19:59

FriskyHeeler · 10/04/2026 19:26

I don't think I've nit picked? Some people spout advice as if it's the simplest solution, not taking into account any of the extenuating factors. People are still suggesting a nanny /childminder, which doesn't exist in my area or is not financially viable which I stated in my OP. I'm not going to take advice I've already thought of and discounted. I've looked. No one has come up with an option I've not thought about in terms of childcare. I'm not going to send my kids somewhere that is not going to be safe for them. Walking from school to the nursery is not going to be safe. Im not going to just "try it" to please my employer. They won't be the ones dealing with a dead child if he runs off and gets hit my a car. Which has almost happened before. Twice.

I've not "had a good run" really, as up until October our youngest went to a childminder full time, and before that, my middle went to the same childminder full time before he started school. I had 2 kids in full time paid childcare for 2 years and at one point when I first started this job, we were paying £1500 a month when I only earnt £1800 a month after tax at that time.

You do realise most parents are in the same boat with one parent basically working for the price of childcare? It's just what happens when kids are small and need full time care... its not a "bad run".

RocketLollyPolly · 10/04/2026 19:57

FriskyHeeler · 10/04/2026 19:51

That only helps if the childcare exists.

The childcare does exist you’re just not willing to try it.

Alwaysoneoddsock · 10/04/2026 19:57

You could look at a PA for children with SEND role rather than a nanny or childminder with the direct payments (just opens up another potential group of people) - although still could be difficult to find. Sometimes TAs working part time in specialist schools do it.

Thisle · 10/04/2026 19:56

Really sad how some people on this thread seem to think a workplace just does not need to be flexible. They pay you for work, they don't own you and you don't owe them your soul. Doesn't sound like OP is a casualty nurse or something, it's so old-fashioned to act like she's asking for the moon here.

Also funny the number of people (probably Londoners and South-Easterners) who don't seem to get that there are plenty of places in the UK where hiring a nanny just isn't possible because no-one does it and no-one within a feasible distance actually wants that work. Presuming there's uni students even living within a distance that would make it worthwhile them taking that work.

FriskyHeeler · 10/04/2026 19:51

Geneticsbunny · 10/04/2026 19:43

@FriskyHeeler did you spot my post saying that you can get help with paying for childcare for disabled children while you are working?

That only helps if the childcare exists.

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Elanol · 10/04/2026 19:51

FriskyHeeler · 10/04/2026 16:46

I understand this and it has been addressed however his dad is a director of the company so he goes running to daddy and gets to do what he wants without repercussions

Edited

Ah, ok, that's rough. I don't think there's a resolution to that part of the problem then.

You said your husband has been picking up night shifts at his old job. I think you also stated that DH could reduce his hours at the new job. If so, could he drop a day at the new job and do a couple of night shifts? Doesn't have to be forever.

He took a pay cut, so obviously nights pays better. It might free up some childcare time or bring in some extra money to pay for it. I've done nights. It's hard to do several in a row, much easier in isolation. It's not ideal but you need to come up with something

Alwaysoneoddsock · 10/04/2026 19:51

I haven’t had time to read the full thread so forgive me if this has been mentioned. If your children have SEND, you may be entitled to direct payments which you could use to pay for specialist childcare. You could contact your children with disabilities service at your local council to see what they offer. It may be on the local offer page of your local council website (although it probably won’t be as it’s often not promoted).

I’m disappointed to read the first replies on this thread. Where’s the support for a woman trying to juggle work and family life? It’s incredibly difficult, even more so when your children have additional needs. As a society we need to do better to support families.

PickledOlives · 10/04/2026 19:50

We have not afterschool here either. Since having my daughter i have asked my work to work 6-2, so i can pick her up and my husband works 8:30-4:30 and does school drop off. Would this be a possibility on your husband office days? Could he go in super early instead of staying late? Our daughter has sen and wouldn't be ok in afterschool or holiday clubs, so it feels a bit like military operation daily but we make it work .

Silverfoxette · 10/04/2026 19:49

DoubleShotEspressox · 10/04/2026 12:15

As a manager of a large team, I’m always more than happy to be flexible and accommodate.
Childcare, illness, bereavement, cars breaking down etc etc.
My attitude, as long as your work is done and you’re transparent.

But, in your situation this doesn’t sound like something that’s going to resolve for the next five years or so.

With you working from home - why does everything fall to shit? You are then clearly not enabling your team to work effectively without being micromanaged.

I would come at this with a solutions focussed approach that allows ongoing flex - not threaten to quit because it’ll probably backfire.

Explain clearly the situation and limited options, and say I’m going to upskill X to step in on the two afternoons I can’t be here, I’m going to implement this process that allows for X and mitigates risk, I’ll wfh on this day and balance it by doing this. Etc.

Propose a real solution that allows you the flex AND keeps your job. Because you go in there with arms flailing and making out like they HAVE to support this - well I would tell you to go.

This seems like good advice to me