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FriskyHeeler · 10/04/2026 11:59

I've worked at my current employer for 3 years and recently had a change in circumstances (in February) which means I have no childcare for my 3 children after school for 1-2 days out of the week. They have been understanding and accomodated my needs so far but have asked me to look at what realistic options are available and have called a meeting for next week to discuss, as the situation is not sustainable long term. I'll outline the facts below, please read carefully because it's not as simple a solution as most people seem to think.

  • I work 8.30 - 5pm Monday to Friday and it takes me 30 mins to get to and from work.
  • My husband works 8 - 4.30 Monday to Friday, his office is an hour away and he works from home on Thursdays and Fridays. Soon to be 3 days a week. He used to work nights, so would drop off and pick up the kids each day, however the strain on family life, our relationship, his mental health was not sustainable and he had numerous breakdowns over a long period of time and he changed jobs. Not ideal but I won't make my husband do a job he hated when it made him want to kill himself every day. He can be quite volatile and in the past this has affected work when he last left for periods of time so I've been left to sort the kids 100% of the time, at times. Work know things are rocky and my line manager thinks I should leave him but this would only make the situation more difficult.
  • Our kids are 3, 5 & 9. The 3 & 5 year olds attend the same school/nursery and the 9 year old attends a different school.
  • 2 out of the 3 kids have special needs and are settled in their schools. They previously attended the same primary school but had serious issues so we had to move them.
  • Both schools have breakfast club, 1 starts at 7.50 and the other at 8.10, this obviously means I am often 10 mins late to work on the days they are in club.
  • Neither school has ANY after school provision.
  • We unfortunately live in an area where wrap around care isn't in demand, so options are pretty non existent.
  • There are no childminders in the area that currently or are willing to pick up from either/both of their schools.
  • Their are a couple of local nurseries that do after school club and they collect the kids from school and walk back to their premises. 1 of my kids is a flight risk so I do not feel comfortable with this as an option. He has escaped and ran off from his old school twice before.
  • We cannot afford a nanny, prices are between £15 - 20 and hour when I have enquired and tbh, given my kids additional needs, I don't think anyone would last a week with them, they are VERY full on.
  • My dad can collect the kids 1 day a week at an absolute push but it's his only day off and if he has plans it's not a given he can do it, I don't expect him to plan his life around MY kids. My dad works the other 4 days a week and my mom doesn't work but has stopped driving for health reasons so cannot pick them up and she is not physically able to walk/get the bus etc and as previously stated, 1 of them is a flight risk and she wouldnt be able to run after him if needed. A taxi for her to pick them up and go back to hers would be far too expensive multiple times a week as she has done this once before in an emergency and it was £30 for one pick up, let alone 2.
  • There are no other parents at either of their schools that we know well enough to ask. We have no other friends or family in the area at all, aside from my mom and dad.
  • So far, on days where my husband is in the office, I finish work at 14:40, pick up the kids from school and then log on at home for the remainder of the day, sometimes beyond 5pm.
  • I am a supervisor and our team is growing and I will be responsible for up to 12 people eventually so work are saying I cannot effectively supervise if I am not in the office. We also have a lot of new team members (one being another supervisor) who are not fully trained so things tend to fall to shit a lot of them time if I am not there.
  • Not to toot my own horn but i am the glue that holds the entire team together, and effectively, if I were to leave because I need more long term flexibility, they would be absolutely fucked. My line manager and our department manager knows this all too well, but are still pressuring me to find some magical solution that doesn't exist so I can be there 8.30-5 every single day. They've not said they will get rid of me, and I don't think they would, but they're saying I need to work my hours I am employed to do. I agree with this and have no issues with that, I've often said I will taken leave, take the time unpaid etc and they have always said no.
  • I could put in a flexible working request to reduce my hours 1-2 days a week, but it would actually be a waste of time, as they can and would refuse it for a legitimate business reason.

I don't know what to do or what I'm supposed to say during this meeting. If you've thought of something I haven't explored above then please please let me know. I'm obviously going to explain all of the above in detail about what I've looked into and why it's not a viable option and see what they say. I'm also considering telling them I'm looking else where for something more flexible in the hope that they back down, but I don't actually want to leave, I really do enjoy working there and don't want to jump ship and end up being somewhere I don't like, or having to take a pay cut that I can't really afford.

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Paul2023 · 10/04/2026 23:25

Op do you live in a rural area, a village ? Theres no after school
childcare, clubs ?

Between you,your husband and dad, I take it you’ve all been through all the options and can’t find a way of sorting this out between you ?

UnhappyHobbit · 10/04/2026 23:23

Catlady007007 · 10/04/2026 23:20

Lets hope you don't say the same thing to your employers when they state that your issues are not their issues.
It would not surprise me if your 'meeting' is actually the beginning of managing you out.
You are no longer an asset to them if you cannot work your contracted hours when they want you to work them. You are now a liability. I'd start looking for a new job or you or/and your husband need to consider going part-time.

Why are you being so presumptuous and condescending? Does it give you a warm tingly feeling inside?

Honestly, you’re grasping here on the OPs situation is cringe.

Catlady007007 · 10/04/2026 23:20

FriskyHeeler · 10/04/2026 22:57

God people really don't read the thread do they. Constant comment regarding my husband when he's got as much flexibility he can with his new job. Jesus Christ, comprehension is not a strong point for many of you.

Lets hope you don't say the same thing to your employers when they state that your issues are not their issues.
It would not surprise me if your 'meeting' is actually the beginning of managing you out.
You are no longer an asset to them if you cannot work your contracted hours when they want you to work them. You are now a liability. I'd start looking for a new job or you or/and your husband need to consider going part-time.

FriskyHeeler · 10/04/2026 23:20

lizzyBennet08 · 10/04/2026 21:51

Honestly regardless of what you think. No one is irreplaceable and they are really just asking you to work your contracted hours .. you seem to think they're being unreasonable.
I would think the fact that the are calling you for a meeting means you are perhaps less valuable than you might think.
Tread Carefully here so you don't talk yourself out of a job .

Can you quote me where I've said they're being unreasonable??

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Monzo1ss · 10/04/2026 23:19

OP, you sound bizarre. There are so many dimensions to this problem that you are ignoring.

Firstly, you work in a toxic environment in terms of being overworked, not being able to take leave, micromanagement etc. However the solution to that is to find a new job. Not to keep jumping every time they raise the bar. You’re dealing with unreasonable individuals and unreasonable expectations, it’s not going to magically change in your favour. Just like your husband got a new job, so should you. You have reached the limit of support with your employer, they owe you nothing. And as you’ve not raised concerns before, they aren’t going to see any issue in your list of grievances.

Secondly, you have been oversharing with work. They don’t need to know your relationship issues and they don’t need to have opinions about whether you should leave your husband or not. These are not topics you should be discussing with them frankly.

In terms of your proposed meeting points, again you are oversharing. Your situation is simple in that you have disabled children, local childcare providers are unable to offer the specialist care required for them. In addition, your partner also has health problems. What you are trying to get across is the risk of indirect disability discrimination/discrimination by association. Not the ins and outs of everything shared here. Your core point is you are a caregiver to someone with a disability, what flexibility is there and if none, are there other roles you can transfer to support your caring responsibilities.

What you need to get away from are:

  • relationship issues
  • childcare issues

Your strongest point is caregiving responsibilities to a disabled child which is not the same thing as standard parental responsibility. You’re conflating every personal issue you have into one box, and it doesn’t work because legally your employer doesn’t need to accommodate relationship issues or childcare issues.

Paul2023 · 10/04/2026 23:14

Out of curiosity has Labours new employer laws changed things for the better ? Isn’t flexible working considered from day one now? The bill went though didn’t it ?

WTAFIsWrongWithPeople · 10/04/2026 23:08

KM123456 · 10/04/2026 22:12

One issue no one is mentioning is that whatever accommodation your employer offers you they may be legally obligated to offer the same to all the others employees, or risk a discrimination complaint. This is often forgotten by valuable employees . So it is not just how can they accommodate you (and they may be sympathetic as individuals) but what kind of accommodation can they provide to you and everyone else? This is is probably already being discussed by your coworkers, although not in front of you.

WTAF? No they don’t.

It’s literally stated on the flex request regs that employers have to consider on a first come first serve basis and don’t have to apply anything to any other employee.

WTAFIsWrongWithPeople · 10/04/2026 23:06

LT1233 · 10/04/2026 21:57

Dare I say.... Ask Chatgpt to bullet point every single option you're going to present to them both in terms of what works for you, and for them. Go into the meeting with the bullet points. Hope you can talk them into something.

FFS.

firstofallimadelight · 10/04/2026 23:02

Could you ask for compressed hours over four days then you could comfortably do 1 pick up and ask your day to do other and you leave early if he cants?

Soontobesingles · 10/04/2026 23:01

FriskyHeeler · 10/04/2026 22:57

God people really don't read the thread do they. Constant comment regarding my husband when he's got as much flexibility he can with his new job. Jesus Christ, comprehension is not a strong point for many of you.

But your job also isn't able to be more flexible, by the sounds of it. So the issue is you and your DH have to work on a solution, which could be any number of things (employ an au pair/nanny, go part-time, change jobs/careers, move somewhere with better childcare options etc), but you are the people who are responsible for arranging childcare, not your employers!

Receptive1 · 10/04/2026 23:00

Fellow working SEN mum here, it’s impossible to underestimate how hard it is to find consistent safe care for your kids 💛
firstly, you not being unreasonable. Sounds like you’ve already explored pretty much every childcare option, and with your children’s needs, there isn’t a simple solution.
What currently works (I think):

  • Leave at 2:40pm on 1–2 days a week
  • Collect the kids
  • Log back on and finish your hours at home
You’re not asking to work less, just to work part of your day from home. I’d be honest and say that due to your caring responsibilities, you have explored all childcare options and none are consistently available or safe. The only workable solution is leaving at 2:40pm on 1–2 fixed days, then continuing to work from home until the end of the day. Then be proactive in trying to meet their needs and suggest:
  • Fix the days (e.g. Tuesday/Wednesday)
  • Do meetings and supervision earlier in the day
  • Stay available on Teams/phone after pickup
  • Suggest a trial period of 8-12 Weeks
They sound like they want to keep you, and I often think being honest and practical can be heard with compassion in the work place (I hope this is the case for you).
BudgetBuster · 10/04/2026 22:59

FriskyHeeler · 10/04/2026 22:55

I'm not the only parent. And as I've stated multiple times I have childcare in place for 2 out of the 3.

I unfortunately cannot have may half term off due to someone else in the team being off.

I originally booked the week off I'm June because we booked a holiday last year which we since cancelled because we cannot afford it. I've kept the time off as it's mine and 2 of the kids birthdays during that week.

I know you aren't the only parent... but that doesn't answer the question what are you and your husband going to do for summer childcare. You have nobody to mind your middle child who has some extra needs.

Also I didn't mention the June week off, your quoting the wrong person.

But summer holidays are going to roll around VERY quickly...

FriskyHeeler · 10/04/2026 22:57

God people really don't read the thread do they. Constant comment regarding my husband when he's got as much flexibility he can with his new job. Jesus Christ, comprehension is not a strong point for many of you.

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FriskyHeeler · 10/04/2026 22:55

BudgetBuster · 10/04/2026 21:30

Don't think she's thought that far ahead unfortunately

I'm not the only parent. And as I've stated multiple times I have childcare in place for 2 out of the 3.

I unfortunately cannot have may half term off due to someone else in the team being off.

I originally booked the week off I'm June because we booked a holiday last year which we since cancelled because we cannot afford it. I've kept the time off as it's mine and 2 of the kids birthdays during that week.

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Soontobesingles · 10/04/2026 22:53

FriskyHeeler · 10/04/2026 12:14

I understand my childcare issues are not their problem, nor are my marriage issues, but they're making it their problem by getting involved and asking for meetings to discuss. They say they want to work with me and support me, but there are no viable options in my opinion. I'm not going to willingly send my child somewhere where he could escape before he's even gotten there. Also I feel their behaviour could be an issues, as advised 2 of them are SEN, the eldest was banned from breakfast club at his previous school, and the middle has been banned from the holiday club provision we usually use and our old child minder (before he started school) gave us notice and even pretended she was giving up childminding in order to not have to look after them anymore. It's not just a case of oh send them anywhere they will be fine/nursery will have to figure it out.

No, you are making it their problem by not being able to work your contracted hours due to childcare problems. They need to resolve the issue of you not working to contract. The reason they are saying they want to support you is that they legally have to start from the point of trying to accommodate reasonable requests for flexibility from carers, and probably they also feel for you. Of course, you can go to the meeting and say 'there are no viable options, you need to accommodate my request for adjusted hours' - but they may well say no and start you down the path of performance management or claim that you are committing gross misconduct by failing to follow reasonable management instruction (working your hours). I am not sure why you feel it is your employers who need to compromise on this and not your DH, the children's father.

Ghostorno · 10/04/2026 22:50

Your workplace are committed to supporting you and that’s great but expecting you to carry so much responsibility isn’t sustainable medium term. What would happen if you needed to take time off for ill health or an emergency? Why have so many people left the company? You’’re a sticking plaster on an open wound. .

Ohnobackagain · 10/04/2026 22:46

@FriskyHeeler if they want to grow the team then you need to train someone else to share the load so you can wfh with fewer issues. Nobody should be a single point of failure. There has to be a contingency plan for business continuity. It isn’t even about kids - what if you were ill or something? If they value you and you trust them, then you could suggest ways of improving things (rather than them letting you go because you end up being unreliable). Could you do a job share? You should be able to have a holiday without spending weeks preparing or days after picking up work!

CatJump · 10/04/2026 22:44

Are you getting DLA for your 2 with additional needs?
If you dont and they are eligible then it might be worth applying. You could then use it to either reduce your hours or change jobs so you are available to look after them, or pay a higher amount for a nanny experienced in SEN using the DLA.

WalkAway7 · 10/04/2026 22:29

OP, I haven’t read all the replies so apologies if this has already been suggested but what about an Au Pair?
She would need her own room but if this is not feasible in your home, could she lives with your parents but work for you?
I understand that two of your children have SEN so an older, more experienced au pair might be a better option…
You sound understandablly, stressed and overwhelmed. I hope you find a solution…

Ariela · 10/04/2026 22:19

I think you need to ask for reduced hours OR increased pay to cover the cost of a nanny for the days you need and you'll be available the whole shift.
Sounds to me like you're potentially already being underpaid for the increased role they are expecting of you.

KM123456 · 10/04/2026 22:12

One issue no one is mentioning is that whatever accommodation your employer offers you they may be legally obligated to offer the same to all the others employees, or risk a discrimination complaint. This is often forgotten by valuable employees . So it is not just how can they accommodate you (and they may be sympathetic as individuals) but what kind of accommodation can they provide to you and everyone else? This is is probably already being discussed by your coworkers, although not in front of you.

Velumental · 10/04/2026 22:10

BudgetBuster · 10/04/2026 22:05

I could see a 9yo entertaining themselves.... 5yo could probably be plopped in front of the tv and some colouring books or puzzles and a snack nearby and you'd get something done... but both of them AND a 3 year old? Nope 😂 3yo will entertain themselves for 5 minutes maximum and probably have turned the house upside down in that 5 minutes and ruined whatever the older kids were doing 😂

Honestly child dependent, my daughter could entertain herself happily for an hour or more from about 2. I found it utterly baffling as my eldest couldn't be 2 feet from me without getting upset or endangering himself I told her was at least 4.

Lavender14 · 10/04/2026 22:09

Also op sorry if I've missed it, but can you say what kind of work you do without being too outing?

I'm asking because obviously some roles lend much better to working from home or hours split across flexi working than others that absolutely require you to be on site?

If its a job where you absolutely could not complete your responsibilities from home and be genuinely productive within those hours then it's obviously fair enough.

However, if the actual issue is lack of team performance, high turnover and issues with staffing and retention then you have a much bigger issue on your hands. The childcare is obviously immediate as a concern, but long term what you're working in is a recipe for burn out. You cannot be the sole cog of a company and they should be putting every effort into making sure you don't remain in that position. This for me would be a major red flag and I'd be actively looking for new jobs that were less dependent on me to do other people's jobs for them, and were more flexible.

Is it worth meeting with a careers advisor? I met with one which was free through the council when I became a lone parent because my job at the time didn't lend to my lack of childcare and that really helped me identify other avenues I had the skills for. I'm now earning more, more job security, 9-5 and flexi time and some working from home days as a result compared to before. Obviously the change itself took a while but it meant it was on my radar and I could plan in that direction.

notnorman · 10/04/2026 22:09

i asked my friend Chat GTP on the last day of my £200 per month super subscription !!
it says…. She should stop trying to produce a “perfect” solution on her own and go into that meeting with a clear, evidence-based proposal.

From what you’ve set out, this is not a case of her being disorganised or unwilling to work. It is a genuine childcare gap with very limited local provision, two children with additional needs, two separate settings, and a husband whose current job pattern does not cover all pickups. She has already explored the obvious options. The employer may still say they need full office cover, but they should at least engage properly with a workable proposal rather than just pushing her to “find something”. Under the current flexible working framework, employees can make a statutory request from day one, employers must consult before rejecting, and any refusal has to be for one of the recognised business reasons. Those reasons include impact on performance, quality, customer demand, or inability to reorganise work.

What she should do next is this.

First, she should go into the meeting with a written proposal, not just the problem. The strongest version is probably something like: on the 1 to 2 days when her husband is in the office, she leaves at 2:40, collects the children, and then resumes work from home until 5:00 or later if needed; she remains contactable by phone and Teams; she keeps core supervisory tasks, escalations, approvals and check-ins scheduled around that pattern; and they review it after 8 to 12 weeks. That is much stronger than saying “I need flexibility”. It says: here is how the business still gets the hours and the coverage.

Second, she should frame it as a trial with measurable safeguards. For example: set times for supervision catch-ups, a handover process for the late afternoon, clear escalation routes, and agreed productivity measures. If the employer’s concern is “you cannot supervise effectively if you are not physically in the office,” the answer is not to argue in general terms. The answer is to ask: what specifically is not being covered, and how can we test a structure that covers it? Acas expects consultation before refusal, which means discussing alternatives, not simply saying no.

Third, she should put in a formal flexible working request anyway, even if she thinks it may be refused. I would not treat that as pointless. A formal request creates a proper process and requires the employer to deal with the actual proposal. It is often better to have a concrete written request on record than a string of informal conversations. The employer can refuse for legitimate business reasons, yes, but they should still consult and explain the reason.

Fourth, she should not threaten to leave as a tactic unless she truly means it. That can backfire badly. A better line is: “I want to stay here. I enjoy the role. I am trying to find a sustainable arrangement that works for both the business and my family.” That is calm, credible and harder to dismiss.

Fifth, she should ask HR to be involved if they are not already. This has moved beyond an informal manager chat. HR should review whether a temporary hybrid pattern, adjusted start/finish time, compressed hours, use of annual leave in part-days, or a temporary change to duties is possible. If the employer has already said “no” to leave or unpaid time, she should ask them to explain why those options are ruled out if the alternative is losing a key supervisor.

There are also a few legal points worth knowing. Time off for dependants is for unexpected emergencies, such as a sudden childcare breakdown or school closure, and is not designed to cover an ongoing long-term arrangement. Carer’s leave exists, but it is only up to one week in a 12-month period, unpaid, so it is not a long-term answer either. Parental leave can sometimes help as a short-term buffer, but in general it is unpaid and usually taken in week-long blocks, so again it is not a real structural fix for 1 to 2 afternoons every week.

There is one more point she should keep in mind. Where a workplace rule disadvantages women because women are more likely to have childcare responsibilities, that can raise indirect sex discrimination issues unless the employer can justify the rule. Acas gives childcare-related examples of this. Also, discrimination by association can apply in some circumstances because of a connection with a disabled person. That does not mean she should go into the meeting threatening discrimination claims, but it does mean she should be careful, keep notes, and not accept dismissive treatment.

So, in practical terms, what should she do?

She should go in and say, in effect:

“I’ve looked at all realistic childcare options. There is no after-school provision at either school, no suitable childminder, no family support available more than one day at most, and because of my children’s needs some of the obvious options are not safe. I want to remain in this role and continue doing it well. My proposed solution is that on the 1 to 2 days where pickup cannot be covered, I leave at 2:40, collect the children, and complete the remainder of my hours from home. I’m proposing this as a trial arrangement with clear review points and agreed cover/escalation processes. If there are concerns, I’d like to discuss exactly what they are and what alternatives the business would consider.”

That is probably her best position.

She should not go in apologising. She should not go in angry. She should not go in pretending there is a magical childcare solution she has missed. She should go in as a good employee presenting the most viable arrangement available.

If the employer rejects it, then the next step is to ask for the decision and reasons in writing, consider an appeal or revised request, and speak to Acas for tailored advice before deciding whether to stay or move on.