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FriskyHeeler · 10/04/2026 11:59

I've worked at my current employer for 3 years and recently had a change in circumstances (in February) which means I have no childcare for my 3 children after school for 1-2 days out of the week. They have been understanding and accomodated my needs so far but have asked me to look at what realistic options are available and have called a meeting for next week to discuss, as the situation is not sustainable long term. I'll outline the facts below, please read carefully because it's not as simple a solution as most people seem to think.

  • I work 8.30 - 5pm Monday to Friday and it takes me 30 mins to get to and from work.
  • My husband works 8 - 4.30 Monday to Friday, his office is an hour away and he works from home on Thursdays and Fridays. Soon to be 3 days a week. He used to work nights, so would drop off and pick up the kids each day, however the strain on family life, our relationship, his mental health was not sustainable and he had numerous breakdowns over a long period of time and he changed jobs. Not ideal but I won't make my husband do a job he hated when it made him want to kill himself every day. He can be quite volatile and in the past this has affected work when he last left for periods of time so I've been left to sort the kids 100% of the time, at times. Work know things are rocky and my line manager thinks I should leave him but this would only make the situation more difficult.
  • Our kids are 3, 5 & 9. The 3 & 5 year olds attend the same school/nursery and the 9 year old attends a different school.
  • 2 out of the 3 kids have special needs and are settled in their schools. They previously attended the same primary school but had serious issues so we had to move them.
  • Both schools have breakfast club, 1 starts at 7.50 and the other at 8.10, this obviously means I am often 10 mins late to work on the days they are in club.
  • Neither school has ANY after school provision.
  • We unfortunately live in an area where wrap around care isn't in demand, so options are pretty non existent.
  • There are no childminders in the area that currently or are willing to pick up from either/both of their schools.
  • Their are a couple of local nurseries that do after school club and they collect the kids from school and walk back to their premises. 1 of my kids is a flight risk so I do not feel comfortable with this as an option. He has escaped and ran off from his old school twice before.
  • We cannot afford a nanny, prices are between £15 - 20 and hour when I have enquired and tbh, given my kids additional needs, I don't think anyone would last a week with them, they are VERY full on.
  • My dad can collect the kids 1 day a week at an absolute push but it's his only day off and if he has plans it's not a given he can do it, I don't expect him to plan his life around MY kids. My dad works the other 4 days a week and my mom doesn't work but has stopped driving for health reasons so cannot pick them up and she is not physically able to walk/get the bus etc and as previously stated, 1 of them is a flight risk and she wouldnt be able to run after him if needed. A taxi for her to pick them up and go back to hers would be far too expensive multiple times a week as she has done this once before in an emergency and it was £30 for one pick up, let alone 2.
  • There are no other parents at either of their schools that we know well enough to ask. We have no other friends or family in the area at all, aside from my mom and dad.
  • So far, on days where my husband is in the office, I finish work at 14:40, pick up the kids from school and then log on at home for the remainder of the day, sometimes beyond 5pm.
  • I am a supervisor and our team is growing and I will be responsible for up to 12 people eventually so work are saying I cannot effectively supervise if I am not in the office. We also have a lot of new team members (one being another supervisor) who are not fully trained so things tend to fall to shit a lot of them time if I am not there.
  • Not to toot my own horn but i am the glue that holds the entire team together, and effectively, if I were to leave because I need more long term flexibility, they would be absolutely fucked. My line manager and our department manager knows this all too well, but are still pressuring me to find some magical solution that doesn't exist so I can be there 8.30-5 every single day. They've not said they will get rid of me, and I don't think they would, but they're saying I need to work my hours I am employed to do. I agree with this and have no issues with that, I've often said I will taken leave, take the time unpaid etc and they have always said no.
  • I could put in a flexible working request to reduce my hours 1-2 days a week, but it would actually be a waste of time, as they can and would refuse it for a legitimate business reason.

I don't know what to do or what I'm supposed to say during this meeting. If you've thought of something I haven't explored above then please please let me know. I'm obviously going to explain all of the above in detail about what I've looked into and why it's not a viable option and see what they say. I'm also considering telling them I'm looking else where for something more flexible in the hope that they back down, but I don't actually want to leave, I really do enjoy working there and don't want to jump ship and end up being somewhere I don't like, or having to take a pay cut that I can't really afford.

OP posts:
ProudAmberTurtle · 10/04/2026 13:16

FriskyHeeler · 10/04/2026 13:08

Finding it really hard to answer everyone, so many replies, some empathetic and some not so much.

I feel I've addressed most of the suggestions or comments in the original OP tbh. You can all think I'm smug all you want but I know my worth and everything will just fall down and unravel without me there. They WANT me to stay because they know this. They may want to formalise things and thats fine, it's cheaper for me to cut my hours than it is for me to find and pay for magic childcare that are SEN trained (doesn't exist where I live) .

No, I don't want to move to whoever mentioned this. We moved previously from an awful area, the kids are happy and settled, doing well. So they are the priority (one comment suggested that I put them first which is weird cos that's all I'm doing).

Also financials are a big consideration. Whilst yes I can cut my hours, I don't particularly want to have to. My husband can cut his hours but he's already taken a pay cut. A further one would be too drastic for us. We have scrimped for years paying for nursery/childminders when they were babies. I cannot afford not to work full stop. We get DLA for the eldest which gets used for breakfast club and holiday childcare. My youngest goes to another nursery during the school holidays and my middle has recently been banned from the holiday club he and the eldest go to. My mom will have 1 at a time for a day or 2 during the school holidays but she is really not physically well enough for more.

Like I said, I know it sounds arrogant and I'm replaceable etc etc. But I cannot express enough how untrue that is due to current circumstances surrounding staffing and volume of orders and high profile customers we have orders for, it won't make sense without knowing the details but I can't go into it and it's not straightforward.

You asked for advice.

The consensus is that your attitude that you're indispensable is a major problem.

But you're ignoring it.

In that case you should do what someone else suggested - tell them they can't sack you because you're too important and demand whatever terms you want the most .. and then see what happens.

bigboykitty · 10/04/2026 13:16

To be fair OP, your OH doing the school runs after night shifts and only ever having 5 hours sleep was never a viable arrangement and anyone's mental health would suffer in those conditions. It's totally unrealistic for two full-time working adults to have 3 children and expect not to pay for any childcare. You're trying to square the impossible circle and you seem to want your employer to find a magical solution. Something has to give here and it's not for your employer to solve. You seem really stuck in your thinking about it. Whatever you do, there will be a cost - reduced pay or increased expenses. I think you will need to accept this. Have you looked at Entitled To to see if you can claim any financial support? Is there scope to reduce your outgoings?

FriskyHeeler · 10/04/2026 13:16

Snoken · 10/04/2026 13:06

Instead of your husband doing 3 days working from home could he do 2 days + 2 afternoons working from home and travel home from the office on his lunch break those two days? Then your dad covers the 5th day and you do the breakfast club drop-offs and make up the 10 minutes at lunch or something?

Its a potential option, I will ask my husband to propose it to his work, the only thing to consider is the extra hours he would spend travelling to and from the office, and the cost of fuel. Will weigh it up as an option though.

I already am so busy I don't take a lunch break. I do a working lunch regularly. If I do go out, it's to the shop round the corner to buy a drink or a snack and I can't remember the last time I did that. My work don't care about that though and wouldn't "count" my working lunch hours towards working hours.

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Cardinalita90 · 10/04/2026 13:14

Look, at the moment you apparently being indispensable is working against you because it makes your employer less likely to agree long-term flexibility. So its in your interests to help build some resilience and capability in the team. Put any ego of being number 1 aside and focus on how you'll help them achieve this at pace.

Clearly there's already capability when you take annual leave but it might be people are defaulting to the assumption you'll do it all.

crossedlines · 10/04/2026 13:13

crossedlines · 10/04/2026 12:53

OK, my first point is: a nanny at £15- £20 per hr is remarkably cheap. I pay my cleaner more than that and taking care of children carries far greater responsibility. Plus that rate for more than one child makes it even more brilliant! It’s simply not true to say that it’s more than you can afford because you’re only paying for wraparound care outside the ‘free’ care you get while they’re in school/ nursery. (BTW I know school isn’t childcare, I’m just making the point that there is no charge during the majority of the day for you.) Even if you and your dh are both on NMW, you’ll earn more between you for every hour the nanny works!

Also you and your dh must be entitled to at least 28 days annual leave per year. Thats the minimum legally. So that’s 56 days between you, ie; just over 11 weeks. I’m not suggesting you never take leave together because of course family time is important. But you can take some of it separately which would cover most of the school holidays between you.

i hear what you’re saying that the logistics are tricky to work out- but that’s the same for everyone who works and has kids, particularly if they have additional needs. However, speaking from my perspective - when I had kids there was 12 weeks paid maternity leave, no subsidised childcare hours and barely any breakfast clubs or wraparound care - your situation is not unique. Sometimes you just have to throw money at the situation to make it work. Childcare took up all my net pay for several years - but it was worth it long term to remain in my career.

I honestly don’t see how, given that you’ll get a lot of free hours for the 3 years old, plus the older kids only need wraparound care, you can claim that you can’t afford the sort of personalised childcare you need. Yes, it’ll cost more than an after school club or getting your dad to pick them up - but it is what it is. If you want to remain in your work role, then I would throw money at finding a solution. Over time it gets easier as the kids get older. Then wait until university years and it’s like paying childcare again if they don’t get the full maintenance loan. Yeap, we had 3 children too - it doesn’t come cheap.

I’m just re-posting this again @FriskyHeeleras I can’t see how you’re adding up the sums to claim that personalised nanny care is unaffordable. Even if you and your dh are on NMW, you’ll earn more together for each hour you’re paying the nanny! It’s not like you need a huge number of hours per week as two of your kids are school age and the 3 year old must get a load of free hours at nursery (or do you/ your dh earn 100k and not qualify for them?!!)

the problem seems to be more that you’re unwilling to pay for the sort of personalised care you need. You will still be making money with a £20 per hour nanny. It just won’t be the cheaper care (or free care from your dad?!) which you’d prefer.

Hayley1256 · 10/04/2026 13:12

OP, I think you need to go to the meeting with a focus on I've explored all childcare options and there is nothing suitable however here is how I plan to make my time working from home valuable. Then go through some ideas that will make you not having a physical presence easier for them. How many hours is it that you need to do from home? What parts of your job can be done from home? How are you connecting with other staff members whilst at home etc

godmum56 · 10/04/2026 13:12

Blimms · 10/04/2026 12:01

kindly, and as a working mum myself, your childcare issues are not their problem or responsibility.

first answer nails it

ThatLemonBee · 10/04/2026 13:11

IDontHateRainbows · 10/04/2026 13:05

To the point of letting them dictate terms? I take it you do not own the business...

I wouldn’t see anyone with 2 asd kids and changing situations as “ dictating terms “ is see them as needing help to carry on being a integral part of team so yes I would work with them and either refuse hours or ask them if they could work from home those days .
half of my team has different work schedules for very different reasons and that is absolutely fine . It’s not a game to win , it’s a way to make life/ work balance work for everyone

ProudAmberTurtle · 10/04/2026 13:11

FriskyHeeler · 10/04/2026 12:54

I also didn't work for them whilst I was on maternity leave. I have never been off sick myself either.

I've been off when my kids have been sick or when they've needed to be picked up due to behaviour issues etc. And I've worked from home at that time.

My line manager steps in, but frankly, she is difficult to work for, micromanages everyone and generates more unnecessary work for everyone, she cannot be reasoned with and it just makes life hard. I am the "buffer" between her and the team so if I am not there she sticks her nose in, pisses everyone off.

So you're not indispensable. It's just that your team prefers you to the other person.

That's nice but it doesn't mean that the company won't get rid of you if you can't do the job.

Regularmumandfriend · 10/04/2026 13:10

Op, not what you are asking about but anyway - watch your self being the buffer. It's draining thankless and ultimately just a sticking plaster for bigger issues. It's a house of cards. I speak as an ex buffer. Don't become a casualty. You may think you have a good strategy but if management don't support you and tackle issues then don't be niaeve. You should know where you stand.

WTAFIsWrongWithPeople · 10/04/2026 13:10

ThatLemonBee · 10/04/2026 13:03

That’s what a terrible company would say . Members of my team are like gold dust and I treat them with utter respect .

So your solution is…….?

Because the company clearly aren’t happy to continue as things are after 2 months of it.

Tel12 · 10/04/2026 13:09

You need to reduce your hours so that you can do the pickup. The place will not fall apart if you reduce your hours.

Claudiasfringebenefits · 10/04/2026 13:09

I think the afterschool nursery has to be explored more.

Could someone be trained or available to do supervision for the transfer of the flight risk child?

Are your children under medical review? Do they have contacts with any specialist childcare that maybe don’t advertise in usual routes?

hypnovic · 10/04/2026 13:08

Do you get DLA for the children with needs? This may cover childcare

Candleabra · 10/04/2026 13:08

But if your team fall apart without you then you’re not a great manager/leader - instead you’re heroically doing everything yourself. This leads to you feeling indispensable but you’ve created that situation for yourself by not letting go. Time to look at the staff you do have and coach, train and delegate more effectively. Maybe the reason for high turnover is low staff satisfaction as no one gets adequate training or is trusted to get on with the job.

I mean all of this kindly btw, it’s a really easy trap to fall into.

ProudAmberTurtle · 10/04/2026 13:08

FriskyHeeler · 10/04/2026 12:42

I can't really explain it, and I know it sounds really arrogant and big headed, but really and truly, they would be fucked without me. It's not a job you can walk into, or learn overnight. That's why the turnover is so high. That's why we have so many new people currently.

I have tried to train people so things don't turn to shit when I am not there, but it's a lot to take on whilst also trying to do my actual job. My line manager won't step in to do any training with the new "supervisor" so it's being left to me, and I simply cannot do it. He's not taking anything in that I'm trying to teach him which is why I said it's not a good idea. They consulted me before promoting him and I expressed my concerns.

The other main staff member that reports to me is good, but he doesn't like my line manager and seems to rile her up when I am off by not following process (which are a bit overkill and he doesn't like doing).

I've never known a team of more than about 4 people where if one of them leave then the team will collapse.

This mentality will just result in you potentially losing your job.

FriskyHeeler · 10/04/2026 13:08

Finding it really hard to answer everyone, so many replies, some empathetic and some not so much.

I feel I've addressed most of the suggestions or comments in the original OP tbh. You can all think I'm smug all you want but I know my worth and everything will just fall down and unravel without me there. They WANT me to stay because they know this. They may want to formalise things and thats fine, it's cheaper for me to cut my hours than it is for me to find and pay for magic childcare that are SEN trained (doesn't exist where I live) .

No, I don't want to move to whoever mentioned this. We moved previously from an awful area, the kids are happy and settled, doing well. So they are the priority (one comment suggested that I put them first which is weird cos that's all I'm doing).

Also financials are a big consideration. Whilst yes I can cut my hours, I don't particularly want to have to. My husband can cut his hours but he's already taken a pay cut. A further one would be too drastic for us. We have scrimped for years paying for nursery/childminders when they were babies. I cannot afford not to work full stop. We get DLA for the eldest which gets used for breakfast club and holiday childcare. My youngest goes to another nursery during the school holidays and my middle has recently been banned from the holiday club he and the eldest go to. My mom will have 1 at a time for a day or 2 during the school holidays but she is really not physically well enough for more.

Like I said, I know it sounds arrogant and I'm replaceable etc etc. But I cannot express enough how untrue that is due to current circumstances surrounding staffing and volume of orders and high profile customers we have orders for, it won't make sense without knowing the details but I can't go into it and it's not straightforward.

OP posts:
jacks11 · 10/04/2026 13:07

mzpq · 10/04/2026 12:19

Not to toot my own horn but i am the glue that holds the entire team together, and effectively, if I were to leave because I need more long term flexibility, they would be absolutely fucked.

Graveyards are full of indispensable people OP.

Yet the world and industry keeps on turning.

I was going to say this- very few people are 100% completely, utterly indispensable and irreplaceable. You can be excellent at your job and very hard to replace- and likely that the process of doing so will be difficult and possibly carry financial costs for a time- and the period of adjustment/getting your replacement up to speed tricky- but I would think you are, ultimately, replaceable. I can understand why an organisation would prefer to try to be flexible for a period of time when they have an excellent employee, but they will eventually need to you to work the hours your job requires and that they pay you for. Looks like that time has come. If you are aware a flexible hours request will be rejected, then you have 2 choices if they are serious about you needing to return to your usual hours: find a way to make it work with childcare (even if not your preferred/perfect provider); or find a job which can accommodate your needs.

I am trying not to sound harsh, but I think you do need to shift away from “they won’t do anything about it because I’m so essential that I can never be replaced”- you almost certainly can be and you need to be realistic about that. If you go in with that assumption, you may well get a bit of a shock. I’m sure they’d much prefer not to have to replace you, if you are as good as you say you are, but if you can’t do the hours/work required then they may well make that choice.

canklesmctacotits · 10/04/2026 13:07

I think they are showing all necessary efforts to accommodate you before dismissal. Nobody is indispensable. Not a prime minister or a monarch - and not you. It may seem like that to you, but that’s because you’re not the employer.

If you want to keep this job you need to come to the meeting with a solution. From the employer’s perspective you are putting your children and your husband and your finances before them, which obviously they understand because they’re humans too. But to do their jobs properly, they have to get your job done properly. If you can’t do it properly you can and will eventually be replaced by someone who doesn’t have attendance issues. They’ll promote someone or demote someone or make a lateral hire - anything, because they can’t keep you on functioning as you are.

Basically, you don’t seem to understand the onus is on you to keep this job which they can fire you from. They’re pressing you to eg pay for a nanny or two if need be. You’ll have to say you can’t afford it. Then they can say they have grounds for dismissal because you routinely don’t turn up or leave early. This is what people mean when they say your childcare problems are your own.

girlwhowearsglasses · 10/04/2026 13:07

FromTheFirstOldFashionedWeWereCursed · 10/04/2026 12:26

If your employer really thinks you are invaluable, would they consider increaasing your salary by the amount you would need to make the childcare work? Mine might, in the right circumstances and (importantly) for exactly the right person. You'd need to go in with some figures and evidence of local childcare costs, to show how it would be more economically advantageous to them than the alternatives.

I agree with others who've said that you have to upskill your team though. I recognise all of the challenges you have (also a FT working mum of 2 SEN children - fwiw, my husband has changed his career because I earn more than he does) but it's poor management to have a bunch of people who can only cope if they are depending on you.

This kind of thinking is what you need - come with some 'bigger picture' solutions. Condensing hours, training up, things that can be a long-term plus all round.

Credittocress · 10/04/2026 13:06

I wouldn’t threaten to leave or say you are looking for something else. If anything I’d ham up how much you love the job and your colleagues and are trying to make it work.

Snoken · 10/04/2026 13:06

Instead of your husband doing 3 days working from home could he do 2 days + 2 afternoons working from home and travel home from the office on his lunch break those two days? Then your dad covers the 5th day and you do the breakfast club drop-offs and make up the 10 minutes at lunch or something?

ThatLemonBee · 10/04/2026 13:05

If you don’t see a viable option then off ten what you have that is reduced hours . If they refuse then gives you time to start looking for another job . As a team leader myself I try my best to keep my team together as it can be really disruptive to break a good team .

Bethany83 · 10/04/2026 13:05

I feel for you O.P, it is hard when there aren't many viable options near you. Soonish I think your husband can do three days of the pick ups and drop offs and hopefully your dad could continue with that one pickup a week... So hopefully it's more just one day that you will be asking to leave earlier...

See what they say and you are right to cover all the options so that they understand the situation for what it is. Good luck.

IDontHateRainbows · 10/04/2026 13:05

ThatLemonBee · 10/04/2026 13:03

That’s what a terrible company would say . Members of my team are like gold dust and I treat them with utter respect .

To the point of letting them dictate terms? I take it you do not own the business...