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Frequency · 08/04/2026 20:59

While out with my rottweiler x this afternoon, I noticed he was panting more than I was comfortable with, so I abandoned our walk and took a detour to the nearest shop to buy him a bottle of water.

I crouched down at the edge of a very wide path to give him a drink. I wasn't paying attention to what was around me because I was watching the dog, and no one had any reason to be near us anyway. The pavement is about 8 feet wide on that street, if not wider. We were right at the edge, by the shop window.

The second I stood up, there was a toddler, eye-to-eye with my dog. He must have run up behind me while I was kneeling. He was literally nose to nose with the dog, reaching his hands out to grab/stroke the dog's face.

My dog is friendly but a little wary of small children, so I tend to keep him away from them.

Luckily, DD was with me and had spotted the kid and managed to hold his hands before he grabbed the dog's face and loudly told him, "Sorry, he's scared of kids, and he's just trying to have a drink, can you leave him alone, please?" She had to say it loudly because his mum and her friend had continued walking and were now a good 10 feet away from us. At this point, the mother then shouted at her other small child (around 7 or 8) to "get the baby," so the dog now had 2 kids to contend with while the mother kept walking away, ranting about how the young girl was supposed to be "watching the baby."

DD has anxiety and was really shaken by it, and can't stop thinking about how much worse it could have been if our dog were not friendly, or if the kid had managed to grab the dog's face and spooked/hurt him.

I still just cannot fathom what the mother was thinking, allowing her toddler to run up to a strange dog who was obviously eating/drinking, get nose to nose with him to try to grab him, and then send a second child over after she's made aware he is not a friendly dog?

Surely it is common sense to know that nose-to-nose with a strange, large breed dog, who is eating/drinking, is not a safe place to be, no matter how friendly the dog is?

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LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 09/04/2026 13:48

Zapx · 09/04/2026 13:46

If your dog cannot handle a toddler coming up to it in public, it should be muzzled. Sometimes things happen, sometimes children are runners, sometimes they have SEN. In the same way owners can’t have eyes in the back of their head, sometimes parents mess up too.

If you’re not sure or have any doubt of the dogs reaction, then muzzle. Then your DD would not need to worry about it biting someone.

The parent was lucky it only ran up to a dog, presumably it could just as easily have run into a road.

If you have a kid with you, you are responsible for keeping it safe. Which means keep it away from possible hazards.

Zapx · 09/04/2026 13:46

If your dog cannot handle a toddler coming up to it in public, it should be muzzled. Sometimes things happen, sometimes children are runners, sometimes they have SEN. In the same way owners can’t have eyes in the back of their head, sometimes parents mess up too.

If you’re not sure or have any doubt of the dogs reaction, then muzzle. Then your DD would not need to worry about it biting someone.

Galtymore · 09/04/2026 13:42

RedWineCupcakes · 09/04/2026 13:27

Where have you made that up from?
Who is crossing the road to avoid this very average looking black and tan crossbreed dog?
OP does not even know if has Rottie in it, it is her vet that has decided this.

@Frequency next time you post about your dog, call it a Beagle X, the part you know about. It won't get rid of all the frothing anti dog venom, but it might restrict some of the knee jerk 'dangerous breed' posters.

In her last post OP said:
“Usually, people cross the road to avoid getting close to him.”

RupertTheBlackCat · 09/04/2026 13:36

OP, I do admire your perseverance in trying to engage those who are determinedly and perversely’misunderstanding’ your entirely clear posts. It must be a slow news day out there!

RedWineCupcakes · 09/04/2026 13:27

Flamingojune · 09/04/2026 13:05

You have a dog that people cross the road to avoid

Where have you made that up from?
Who is crossing the road to avoid this very average looking black and tan crossbreed dog?
OP does not even know if has Rottie in it, it is her vet that has decided this.

@Frequency next time you post about your dog, call it a Beagle X, the part you know about. It won't get rid of all the frothing anti dog venom, but it might restrict some of the knee jerk 'dangerous breed' posters.

Galtymore · 09/04/2026 13:19

Changingplace · 09/04/2026 13:10

All dogs could/may bite if approached unexpectedly by an unknown small child, or in fact by anyone they don’t know and are startled by.

The parent was in the wrong here for not supervising their child.

Yes. OP was wrong too though.

Changingplace · 09/04/2026 13:10

MuskIsACnt · 09/04/2026 13:04

You need to be responsible for your dog. If it could/may bite then it needs to be muzzled.

All dogs could/may bite if approached unexpectedly by an unknown small child, or in fact by anyone they don’t know and are startled by.

The parent was in the wrong here for not supervising their child.

Flamingojune · 09/04/2026 13:05

Frequency · 09/04/2026 12:37

This is one of only a handful of times a child has tried to interact with this dog. Usually, people cross the road to avoid getting close to him.

DD's fluffiest chihuahua is aggressive and does need space and has a lead and harness, advertising that he is aggressive and needs space, but we are constantly having to pick him up out of the way of approaching children, who then go to try and pet him while he's in our arms, snarling, or having to explain to parents that no, it is not OK, yes he will bite little Barry and no it doesn't matter that little Barry is good with dogs or that dogs usually like him.

PSA parents, small and fluffy does not always = cute and friendly. My rott x is by far the better choice if you want to use my pets to teach your children about dogs. Just ask first, approach him calmly (and not when he is eating or drinking), and supervise your own children. I'll mind my dog, you mind your kid, and that way everyone is happy.

You have a dog that people cross the road to avoid

MuskIsACnt · 09/04/2026 13:04

You need to be responsible for your dog. If it could/may bite then it needs to be muzzled.

Rotundra · 09/04/2026 13:00

Frequency · 09/04/2026 12:37

This is one of only a handful of times a child has tried to interact with this dog. Usually, people cross the road to avoid getting close to him.

DD's fluffiest chihuahua is aggressive and does need space and has a lead and harness, advertising that he is aggressive and needs space, but we are constantly having to pick him up out of the way of approaching children, who then go to try and pet him while he's in our arms, snarling, or having to explain to parents that no, it is not OK, yes he will bite little Barry and no it doesn't matter that little Barry is good with dogs or that dogs usually like him.

PSA parents, small and fluffy does not always = cute and friendly. My rott x is by far the better choice if you want to use my pets to teach your children about dogs. Just ask first, approach him calmly (and not when he is eating or drinking), and supervise your own children. I'll mind my dog, you mind your kid, and that way everyone is happy.

Then the chihuahua needs muzzling too if he 'will bite'. More and more you sound like you are unfit to own a dog safely. You are putting everyone in harm's way.

Frequency · 09/04/2026 12:37

TunnocksOrDeath · 09/04/2026 12:12

Someone in our family has a small-breed which we occasionally dog-sit., Parents are forever encouraging their kids to come and say hello to it without bothering to acknowledge our presence, let alone ask if the dog is ok with screechy small humans grabbing it. It is very bad parenting.

This is one of only a handful of times a child has tried to interact with this dog. Usually, people cross the road to avoid getting close to him.

DD's fluffiest chihuahua is aggressive and does need space and has a lead and harness, advertising that he is aggressive and needs space, but we are constantly having to pick him up out of the way of approaching children, who then go to try and pet him while he's in our arms, snarling, or having to explain to parents that no, it is not OK, yes he will bite little Barry and no it doesn't matter that little Barry is good with dogs or that dogs usually like him.

PSA parents, small and fluffy does not always = cute and friendly. My rott x is by far the better choice if you want to use my pets to teach your children about dogs. Just ask first, approach him calmly (and not when he is eating or drinking), and supervise your own children. I'll mind my dog, you mind your kid, and that way everyone is happy.

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TunnocksOrDeath · 09/04/2026 12:12

Someone in our family has a small-breed which we occasionally dog-sit., Parents are forever encouraging their kids to come and say hello to it without bothering to acknowledge our presence, let alone ask if the dog is ok with screechy small humans grabbing it. It is very bad parenting.

Allisnotlost1 · 09/04/2026 12:06

Happytap · 09/04/2026 11:22

I love dogs and have two myself, but I don't think you should have a dog that's aggressive/ wary towards children anywhere children are likely to be. You also weren't paying attention to your dog otherwise you would have seen a toddler approach it's face.

These foreign rescues are notorious for having skitty dogs who are often bred just for people in the UK to 'rescue'

The dog in this situation is not aggressive, and it was because OP was paying attention to the dog that she didn’t see an unsupervised toddler approach. How is she responsible for minding her dog AND other people’s children?

Rotundra · 09/04/2026 12:04

No, it's from what you've said. You said he was nervous, you said he was not socialised well with children, you said he was a rescue so you can't know his background. You said all of those things, many times!

If you don't think he'd attack a child, even one right in his face, then you carry on. But why would you take that risk? I've had dogs all my life, I have always taking the stance that I'd much rather have belt and braces to keep my dogs safe than think oh it'll be OK and blame other people. I love my dogs too much to threaten their well-being.

You weren't paying as much attention as you should have been. This is on you.

SALaw · 09/04/2026 11:53

Obviously it’s common sense but common sense is not very common.

Starlight1979 · 09/04/2026 11:51

And why do people keep asking why he isn't good with children?! Unless dogs are raised with or used to being around kids - and even then it's not a given - then you absolutely should be wary about them interacting!

We have two dogs who I absolutely wouldn't trust around children as they are rescues and can be very nervous / overwhelmed. All it would take is a child screaming or pulling their ear and they may well turn and snap. I don't know this for definite. But I certainly wouldn't risk it!

Starlight1979 · 09/04/2026 11:46

Flamingojune · 08/04/2026 22:12

Why have a dog that looks intimidating?

Wow. What a stupid comment. Maybe because he was a rescue and needed a home, just like the smaller and less "intimidating looking" dogs.

My husband "looks intimidating" to people who don't know him. Ex-army, well built, covered in tattoos... He's the loveliest, kindest and most mild mannered person you could meet. Far more so than me 😂

There is a Border collie on our street who literally everyone with dogs avoids due to the fact he's massively aggressive. Appearances can be deciving.

Frequency · 09/04/2026 11:25

My 'insistence' that she should muzzle him is taken directly from the evidence: a nervous, poorly-socialised dog with an unknown background

All of this is stuff you've made up. He is not nervous, he is not poorly socialised, I know his background.

He is wary of children because they're not something he spends a lot of time with. He can confidently walk past them when they ignore him and will sit and accept treats from them when they approach him properly. I mentioned he was wary only because it is something I am aware of when he interacts with children. I then went on to state that he is friendly, and the main concern was the child doing this again to a dog that is not friendly.

You filled in the blanks on your own and have made 2 + 2 = 5. If needed to wear his muzzle when on a normal walk, he would. He is muzzle-trained; he wears it when I think it might be appropriate, which is mostly near food or somewhere we are likely to encounter a dead animal.

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Happytap · 09/04/2026 11:22

I love dogs and have two myself, but I don't think you should have a dog that's aggressive/ wary towards children anywhere children are likely to be. You also weren't paying attention to your dog otherwise you would have seen a toddler approach it's face.

These foreign rescues are notorious for having skitty dogs who are often bred just for people in the UK to 'rescue'

Rotundra · 09/04/2026 11:19

Allisnotlost1 · 09/04/2026 11:08

@Rotundra I don’t actually know what he looks like so haven’t commented on his appearance at all.

If you’re not reading what I’m saying there’s no point replying. Have the day you deserve.

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I said posters 'like yourself'. That doesn't mean you, and doesn't weaken the facts. If you've run out of defence for your argument then just say that - veiling it with 'you simply don't understaaaaaaaand' is juvenile.

Allisnotlost1 · 09/04/2026 11:08

@Rotundra I don’t actually know what he looks like so haven’t commented on his appearance at all.

If you’re not reading what I’m saying there’s no point replying. Have the day you deserve.

Rotundra · 09/04/2026 11:07

Allisnotlost1 · 09/04/2026 10:42

The dog is in a head harness, from what I understand, so she is in control. I agree that muzzles can be helpful, and no dog is safe unsupervised around children imo. But your continued insistence that she ‘should’ muzzle him smacks more of wanting to be right than of anything actually useful. The dog doesn’t have a history of aggression, any dog would be startled by a person bounding up to them, and nothing actually happened.

I don’t ’want’ the mother to pay attention by the way - my life will be unaffected if her child is run over or bitten or drowns or any of the other terrible things that happen in school holidays when fuckwits take their eyes off their kids. But I can see the balance here. OP had control of her dog, the mother didn’t have control of either of her children. A muzzle might help OP, but it doesn’t negate the need for people to behave appropriately in public.

My 'insistence' that she should muzzle him is taken directly from the evidence: a nervous, poorly-socialised dog with an unknown background. It's only 'continued' because posters like yourself are 'continually' trying to argue that because he looks so fluffy-wuffy how could anything bad ever happen and are erroneously asserting that OP is completely in control and innocent.

Unfortunately, it's totally reasonable for me to defend a point, even if it doesn't agree with yours. I get the impression you don't like to consider others, or facts, once you have decided how you'd like something to be. However, the reality is - not my opinion, not oh but look at his ears - the REALITY is that if the dog attacks a child, it will most likely be destroyed, provocation or not.

So if you are responsible dog owner who doesn't want that to happen then YOU take measures to stop your dog ever being in a situation like this - you and you alone. You can't control other's behaviour, only your own. Pay attention, take necessary steps, however aggrieved you feel that it's everyone else who is the problem. Protect your dog, that's really all there is to it.

Frequency · 09/04/2026 10:56

He wears two harnesses. He has his head collar because the beagle in him forgets he has ears and knows commands when he picks up a scent, so that stops him pulling and allows me to regain his attention. He also has a utility harness with a handle on the chest panel and two on his back.

He wears that because he would try to jump at passersby when he was a puppy, and I can use the handles to keep his feet on the floor. He doesn't really need that one now, but I keep it through habit, and it does come in handy when he's being attacked by smaller dogs, as it allows me to pick him up out of the way of danger.

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Allisnotlost1 · 09/04/2026 10:42

Rotundra · 09/04/2026 10:16

Cool, maybe she wouldn't - that could be what happens. You hang your hat on that.

Or she could just muzzle her nervy dog, stop it from being in harm's way. Or pay attention, like you want the mother to have. Either way, it'll be the dog that suffers if there's an incident so I guess you have to make your choices based on how much you don't want that to happen.

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The dog is in a head harness, from what I understand, so she is in control. I agree that muzzles can be helpful, and no dog is safe unsupervised around children imo. But your continued insistence that she ‘should’ muzzle him smacks more of wanting to be right than of anything actually useful. The dog doesn’t have a history of aggression, any dog would be startled by a person bounding up to them, and nothing actually happened.

I don’t ’want’ the mother to pay attention by the way - my life will be unaffected if her child is run over or bitten or drowns or any of the other terrible things that happen in school holidays when fuckwits take their eyes off their kids. But I can see the balance here. OP had control of her dog, the mother didn’t have control of either of her children. A muzzle might help OP, but it doesn’t negate the need for people to behave appropriately in public.