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To not understand what this parent was thinking?

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Frequency · 08/04/2026 20:59

While out with my rottweiler x this afternoon, I noticed he was panting more than I was comfortable with, so I abandoned our walk and took a detour to the nearest shop to buy him a bottle of water.

I crouched down at the edge of a very wide path to give him a drink. I wasn't paying attention to what was around me because I was watching the dog, and no one had any reason to be near us anyway. The pavement is about 8 feet wide on that street, if not wider. We were right at the edge, by the shop window.

The second I stood up, there was a toddler, eye-to-eye with my dog. He must have run up behind me while I was kneeling. He was literally nose to nose with the dog, reaching his hands out to grab/stroke the dog's face.

My dog is friendly but a little wary of small children, so I tend to keep him away from them.

Luckily, DD was with me and had spotted the kid and managed to hold his hands before he grabbed the dog's face and loudly told him, "Sorry, he's scared of kids, and he's just trying to have a drink, can you leave him alone, please?" She had to say it loudly because his mum and her friend had continued walking and were now a good 10 feet away from us. At this point, the mother then shouted at her other small child (around 7 or 8) to "get the baby," so the dog now had 2 kids to contend with while the mother kept walking away, ranting about how the young girl was supposed to be "watching the baby."

DD has anxiety and was really shaken by it, and can't stop thinking about how much worse it could have been if our dog were not friendly, or if the kid had managed to grab the dog's face and spooked/hurt him.

I still just cannot fathom what the mother was thinking, allowing her toddler to run up to a strange dog who was obviously eating/drinking, get nose to nose with him to try to grab him, and then send a second child over after she's made aware he is not a friendly dog?

Surely it is common sense to know that nose-to-nose with a strange, large breed dog, who is eating/drinking, is not a safe place to be, no matter how friendly the dog is?

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TheTulipsAreOut · 10/04/2026 20:55

CremeEggsForBreakfast · 10/04/2026 20:33

So many people have missed the point of this thread entirely. Forget the dog. He's irrelevant.

Imagine if the thread was "toddler stops to talk to strange man and he takes toddler's hand and begins to walk away. 8yr old is sent to retrieve toddler"

Or "toddler tries to enter building site and 8yr old is sent in to get toddler".

The thread is about a toddler being unsupervised to the point of doing something potentially dangerous (even if OP's dog was Nana from Peter Pan, interacting with a dog you don't know without permission is ill advised) and the only intervention comes from another young child who should never be parentified and told off for not watching their very young sibling properly.

This!!

SandyHappy · 10/04/2026 20:54

I still just cannot fathom what the mother was thinking, allowing her toddler to run up to a strange dog who was obviously eating/drinking, get nose to nose with him to try to grab him, and then send a second child over after she's made aware he is not a friendly dog?

She didn't 'allow' her child to run over to you, from what you have said she was walking ahead chatting and wasn't paying attention to the kids at all, complete parenting fail obviously. They wouldn't have come back to you, because idiotic parents like this don't want to be told they are idiots, so the other kid came in.

You are both massively catastrophising this though to be honest, this sort of thing happens from time to time, especially when you have a cute/goofy dog, it is up to you as dog owner to deal with it swiftly and efficiently, no fuss, no muss. Unfortunately you had a lapse of attention too, so it got too close for comfort, luckily nothing bad happened though.

I appreciate it was a surprise but I do think it was handled pretty poorly, with two of you there, you should have been in a position to block and move your dog away rather than put your hands on the child, that really is a last resort option (especially with idiotic/volatile parents), which just prolongs the interaction, the better option would have been for you daughter to intercept when she noticed the child, and step in between the two of them, which would have served to push your dog's face to the side, and to have blocked the child without having to grab his hands, if she had done that nothing could have happened, and you could have just led your dog the other way while she blocked the child/children, you certainly shouldn't have just stood there while the dog then 'had two kids to contend with'.

There was no need to touch the child or say so many words to be honest, just 'no thank you!' and blocking/turning away is sufficient, the whole interaction was blown out of proportion, I've had dogs all my life, you need to learn to calmly deal with unwanted attention for their own safety and for your own peace of mind.. you can't control what other people do unfortunately.

Galtymore · 10/04/2026 20:54

CremeEggsForBreakfast · 10/04/2026 20:33

So many people have missed the point of this thread entirely. Forget the dog. He's irrelevant.

Imagine if the thread was "toddler stops to talk to strange man and he takes toddler's hand and begins to walk away. 8yr old is sent to retrieve toddler"

Or "toddler tries to enter building site and 8yr old is sent in to get toddler".

The thread is about a toddler being unsupervised to the point of doing something potentially dangerous (even if OP's dog was Nana from Peter Pan, interacting with a dog you don't know without permission is ill advised) and the only intervention comes from another young child who should never be parentified and told off for not watching their very young sibling properly.

I don’t think anybody on this thread has supported the parent though? She was clearly being extremely irresponsible, next to a very busy road too. That is obvious.

WaterFallFairy · 10/04/2026 20:53

I dont understand some people. I've taught my kids to always ask first and keep a distance until you have permision, also they go most places in their scooters and they either stop until the dog has gone passed or go real slow because we've discovered alot of dogs dont like things with small wheels. The point is the parent was NOT parenting! Its dangerous.

Frequency · 10/04/2026 20:40

CremeEggsForBreakfast · 10/04/2026 20:33

So many people have missed the point of this thread entirely. Forget the dog. He's irrelevant.

Imagine if the thread was "toddler stops to talk to strange man and he takes toddler's hand and begins to walk away. 8yr old is sent to retrieve toddler"

Or "toddler tries to enter building site and 8yr old is sent in to get toddler".

The thread is about a toddler being unsupervised to the point of doing something potentially dangerous (even if OP's dog was Nana from Peter Pan, interacting with a dog you don't know without permission is ill advised) and the only intervention comes from another young child who should never be parentified and told off for not watching their very young sibling properly.

Exactly this. It was the parenting, or lack thereof, that worried me, not my ability to manage my dog. My dog is safely under control. The child wasn't.

I will never understand why she sent an 8-year-old to collect the toddler after being told the dog was not friendly (again, just because I've noticed some posters have trouble with reading comprehension - he is friendly. DD said he wasn't for effect and to scare the mother into minding her child by a busy road)

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choccytime · 10/04/2026 20:37

Its always the same , any thread about dogs and we get the self righteous brigade banging on about how awful dogs are and they all need muzzling . Why don't you read the OP and go from there, in this case OP did nothing wrong , neither did her dog . The parents were at fault for not watching what the child was doing , maybe we should muzzle the kids or at least keep them on leads !

CremeEggsForBreakfast · 10/04/2026 20:33

So many people have missed the point of this thread entirely. Forget the dog. He's irrelevant.

Imagine if the thread was "toddler stops to talk to strange man and he takes toddler's hand and begins to walk away. 8yr old is sent to retrieve toddler"

Or "toddler tries to enter building site and 8yr old is sent in to get toddler".

The thread is about a toddler being unsupervised to the point of doing something potentially dangerous (even if OP's dog was Nana from Peter Pan, interacting with a dog you don't know without permission is ill advised) and the only intervention comes from another young child who should never be parentified and told off for not watching their very young sibling properly.

SapphireSeptember · 10/04/2026 20:24

I don't even like dogs but can't see how any of this is OP's fault.

PrincessofWells · 10/04/2026 20:15

AlcoholicAntibiotic · 10/04/2026 20:11

Can we extend this to teenagers?

Happily . . .

Itsnotallaboutyoulikeyouthink · 10/04/2026 20:14

You are obviously nervous about how your dog may react around a child. I understand that as I have a massively nervous cockapoo. But i would say it’s equally your responsibility to watch out for kids coming up to your dog and react in the way that your daughter did. It could have easily been a kid out on there own. In my experience there is a lot of people that just assume that dogs are friendly.

MyEdgyOliveTraybake · 10/04/2026 20:13

This was typical bad parenting. Why is a small child walking along a pavement without holding their parent’s hand?

I often see parents walking 30-40 feet behind their young kids along a busy road. Sometimes the kids are running with a football at their feet or cycling. My heart is in mouth but the parents are oblivious.

that said - I wouldn’t own a Rottweiler either but that’s a different question.

AlcoholicAntibiotic · 10/04/2026 20:11

PrincessofWells · 10/04/2026 20:10

If your dog has any unpredictability at all around anyone it should not be out in public without a muzzle.

Can we extend this to teenagers?

PrincessofWells · 10/04/2026 20:10

If your dog has any unpredictability at all around anyone it should not be out in public without a muzzle.

Poppinjay · 10/04/2026 20:06

Zapx · 09/04/2026 03:29

I don’t think this is the case really. The law would normally not agree with you on that. If your dog is in a public space (as the OPs clearly was) and something happens, the law will almost always side against the dog owner. Some wiggle room around the OP or the dog being attacked. Dog owners are meant to anticipate that members of the public can, and do, act unpredictably (eg kids, SEN).

How the law might apportion blame if something goes wrong doesn't change how parents and carers should act to keep children safe.

LBOCS2 · 10/04/2026 19:55

Hang on, any dog who is surprised can behave in an unexpected manner because they were scared - and some dogs (and horses, and people), have much more developed startle reflexes than others. The OP’s daughter did do what they needed to to keep the toddler away but also, toddlers are FAST when they want something so it’s not that surprising that they didn’t see them coming.

Ultimately the parent should be teaching their child that they CAN’T approach unknown dogs without their owners’ permission. It is not safe. It’s not safe with the most loveable soppy Labrador who has raised generations of their owners’ children and wouldn’t hurt a fly - because at the end of the day, they could still kill them if they decided to.

Jllllllll · 10/04/2026 19:47

So many ignorant comments. Does it matter if he’s a rescue or not? Any responsible parent would not allow their child to approach a dog regardless of the situation. They’re not toys. If a dog is not used to being around children and the way they move and behave differently to adults then why is it their fault if they can’t manage it. It’s not. Entitled adults

Rainbowpumpkin · 10/04/2026 19:44

Moodnight · 08/04/2026 21:51

He’s scared of kids? Was he a rescue?

A lot of dogs are wary of kids. Noisy, unpredictable fast moving, space invaders. I wish more people would realise this, especially if the child is a stranger to the dog.

Newbie8918 · 10/04/2026 19:41

Frequency · 08/04/2026 22:49

I don't think any/many dogs like people in their face. In canine-to-canine interactions, eye-to-eye contact is a challenge/aggressive behaviour.

I think that's why he is wary of small children. He's a couple of inches taller than your average yellow lab, so a small child is eye-level with him, and he's not quite sure what to make of that.

He's never acted aggressively towards a child, and I've no reason to believe he ever would, but I keep our distance from them because I can see he is uncomfortable and forcing an interaction he doesn't feel comfortable with is far more likely to cause aggression than keeping a safe distance, rewarding calm behaviour and allowing calm, positive interactions like children offering him treats.

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Sensible dog owner behaviour from someone who clearly understands their dogs signals and won’t push him to the point of discomfort. Ignore some of the idiotic comments on here!

Emmz1510 · 10/04/2026 19:37

Hallywally · 08/04/2026 22:25

Yes the parent was an idiot but also your dog is your responsibility and needs muzzling. I don’t understand why people need to own unpredictable strong dogs.

He’s not unpredictable though? The owner knows he is wary of kids (predictable), but she didn’t ’predict’ that a poorly supervised toddler would be up in his face like that.

Galtymore · 10/04/2026 17:02

Whattodo1610 · 10/04/2026 16:04

@Galtymore seems to be very opinionated on dog threads, trying to stir up trouble? 🤔

I love dogs, though the kids have allergies which makes that difficult now unfortunately. Love children too.

I don’t know what you mean about trying to stir up trouble on dog threads.

Whattodo1610 · 10/04/2026 16:04

InterIgnis · 10/04/2026 14:52

This is the weirdest hill to die on. ‘Human mature’ allows for quite the wide range of immediate responses, and I’d trust the daughter’s report of her own over the opinion of a someone that doesn’t even know her.

OP and her daughter were responsible here. The person who wasn’t was the parent of the toddler.

@Galtymore seems to be very opinionated on dog threads, trying to stir up trouble? 🤔

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InterIgnis · 10/04/2026 14:52

Galtymore · 10/04/2026 14:18

OK. I don’t believe that was her very first thought that’s all. It’s not human nature to think in that manner.

I think you’re portraying it as such in an effort to minimise the situation here, to minimise the potential danger a spooked dog presents to a toddler. Probably because you don’t want to muzzle.

I don’t know why you think I know little about dogs. We have always had dogs, giant breeds too, so I am familiar with caring for large dogs. I don’t have one presently as the kids are allergic unfortunately.

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This is the weirdest hill to die on. ‘Human mature’ allows for quite the wide range of immediate responses, and I’d trust the daughter’s report of her own over the opinion of a someone that doesn’t even know her.

OP and her daughter were responsible here. The person who wasn’t was the parent of the toddler.

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