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To not understand what this parent was thinking?

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Frequency · 08/04/2026 20:59

While out with my rottweiler x this afternoon, I noticed he was panting more than I was comfortable with, so I abandoned our walk and took a detour to the nearest shop to buy him a bottle of water.

I crouched down at the edge of a very wide path to give him a drink. I wasn't paying attention to what was around me because I was watching the dog, and no one had any reason to be near us anyway. The pavement is about 8 feet wide on that street, if not wider. We were right at the edge, by the shop window.

The second I stood up, there was a toddler, eye-to-eye with my dog. He must have run up behind me while I was kneeling. He was literally nose to nose with the dog, reaching his hands out to grab/stroke the dog's face.

My dog is friendly but a little wary of small children, so I tend to keep him away from them.

Luckily, DD was with me and had spotted the kid and managed to hold his hands before he grabbed the dog's face and loudly told him, "Sorry, he's scared of kids, and he's just trying to have a drink, can you leave him alone, please?" She had to say it loudly because his mum and her friend had continued walking and were now a good 10 feet away from us. At this point, the mother then shouted at her other small child (around 7 or 8) to "get the baby," so the dog now had 2 kids to contend with while the mother kept walking away, ranting about how the young girl was supposed to be "watching the baby."

DD has anxiety and was really shaken by it, and can't stop thinking about how much worse it could have been if our dog were not friendly, or if the kid had managed to grab the dog's face and spooked/hurt him.

I still just cannot fathom what the mother was thinking, allowing her toddler to run up to a strange dog who was obviously eating/drinking, get nose to nose with him to try to grab him, and then send a second child over after she's made aware he is not a friendly dog?

Surely it is common sense to know that nose-to-nose with a strange, large breed dog, who is eating/drinking, is not a safe place to be, no matter how friendly the dog is?

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Rotundra · 09/04/2026 10:16

Allisnotlost1 · 09/04/2026 09:57

From the sounds of it the dog was not out of control, was on a lead and a head harness, doesn’t have a history of aggression or biting and is not on a banned list. Likely that a serious injury to the child would result in the dog being PTS, but not immediately clear that OP would be prosecuted.

Cool, maybe she wouldn't - that could be what happens. You hang your hat on that.

Or she could just muzzle her nervy dog, stop it from being in harm's way. Or pay attention, like you want the mother to have. Either way, it'll be the dog that suffers if there's an incident so I guess you have to make your choices based on how much you don't want that to happen.

Allisnotlost1 · 09/04/2026 09:57

Rotundra · 09/04/2026 09:54

I get that you're outraged about it but yes. She needs to be vigilant all the time, and she wasn't in this instance. She knows her dog is nervous around others so she should take appropriate steps - either keep clear or muzzle. She didn't.

You can feel morally wronged that the mother isn't being held to account but unfortunately that's the reality - it will be OP's dog will be PTS and it'll be OP that is prosecuted. if she is really a responsible dog owner then she should take the above precautions, to protect her dog, if not the child.

From the sounds of it the dog was not out of control, was on a lead and a head harness, doesn’t have a history of aggression or biting and is not on a banned list. Likely that a serious injury to the child would result in the dog being PTS, but not immediately clear that OP would be prosecuted.

Allisnotlost1 · 09/04/2026 09:54

Treadcarefully11 · 08/04/2026 22:58

The entitlement of dog owners never ceases to amaze me.

One child is worth more than all the dogs in the world combined.

If only the mother of the two improperly supervised kids thought the same huh?

Rotundra · 09/04/2026 09:54

Ally886 · 09/04/2026 09:16

So only walk them in places with no other people? The OP was giving them a drink. Should she have eyes in the back of her head?

As much as walking along the street and not seeing children would be lovely, unfortunately they're about and should stay away from dogs or ask permission to come close

I get that you're outraged about it but yes. She needs to be vigilant all the time, and she wasn't in this instance. She knows her dog is nervous around others so she should take appropriate steps - either keep clear or muzzle. She didn't.

You can feel morally wronged that the mother isn't being held to account but unfortunately that's the reality - it will be OP's dog will be PTS and it'll be OP that is prosecuted. if she is really a responsible dog owner then she should take the above precautions, to protect her dog, if not the child.

Happyjoe · 09/04/2026 09:52

Galtymore · 09/04/2026 03:02

No dog is bomb-proof, nor should they be expected to be. They are sentient creatures who experience pain and fear as much as any other sentient being. Mine has never shown any aggression, but that doesn't mean he never, ever would under the wrong circumstances. Any dog can, which is why we need to teach children how to interact with them safely.

And also why you need to muzzle your dog!

There were two people at fault here. The parent of the child and the owner of the dog.

You want every dog muzzled? Ok, if that's for safety, I want every toddler on a leash!

Galtymore · 09/04/2026 09:34

Ally886 · 09/04/2026 09:16

So only walk them in places with no other people? The OP was giving them a drink. Should she have eyes in the back of her head?

As much as walking along the street and not seeing children would be lovely, unfortunately they're about and should stay away from dogs or ask permission to come close

A muzzle is what’s needed in public places if a dog might react poorly.

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 09/04/2026 09:32

Our old family dog, brought up with my five kids and a veritable saint of a dog, didn't much like very small children. He'd take himself off to hide somewhere if a toddler-sized child started trying to hug him (he was very fluffy and huggable). I often had to intervene when he was outside in our front driveway as passing small children would come running up to try to pat him.

I don't think he would have dreamed of biting (he never raised a tooth in anger in his entire fourteen years on this planet, but he would growl to himself), but this was a dog raised and mauled by children all his life. He just didn't like the small ones as they were too unpredictable for him. NOT a dangerous dog, and a complete mongrel, but even the most saintly dog can not want a strange child peering in his face.

Ally886 · 09/04/2026 09:16

OhWise1 · 09/04/2026 08:07

It is primarily the dog owner's responsibility to protect children from their dog, not the parents

So only walk them in places with no other people? The OP was giving them a drink. Should she have eyes in the back of her head?

As much as walking along the street and not seeing children would be lovely, unfortunately they're about and should stay away from dogs or ask permission to come close

Ally886 · 09/04/2026 09:14

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I am not known for aggression however a child jumped off a wall onto my head once and before I knew it i had elbowed them in the face. The brain doesn't catch up when you're startled.

If a dog looks up to someone in their face that's a dangerous situation regardless of the breed.

Galtymore · 09/04/2026 08:53

OhWise1 · 09/04/2026 08:07

It is primarily the dog owner's responsibility to protect children from their dog, not the parents

Absolutely this!
Yes, the parent behaved poorly here, but her dog’s behaviour is ultimately the OP’s responsibility. If her dog bit the child she would be the one in trouble with the law, probably sued, dog pts etc.

Itsanewlife · 09/04/2026 08:52

Frequency · 08/04/2026 22:20

Are Reagles (I hate stupid, made-up names for mongrels, but that's what he is classed as at the vets) known for aggression?

Also, whether he is intimidating is a matter of personal opinion; I happen to think he is the dopiest-looking thing I've ever seen in my life.

He looks lovely (and charmingly dopey)!

Monzo1ss · 09/04/2026 08:49

Something is really weird about this

You make your daughter sound like a child herself. She’s 23? No wonder she has anxiety. You are blowing this out of proportion. She did nothing wrong. However you’re dragging the exchange on by labouring the point through online forums, when it should be a non-event with no need for continuing to discuss it with strangers. There’s also no need for anyone to be shaking over this tbh, and she would likely process this easier if you didn’t make it such a big deal.

Plus your expectations for other people are too high. I can assure you that no one is thinking about being “nose to nose” with your dog, it’s just not going to cross the average person’s mind. You keep repeating this oddly specific phrase as if non-dog owners see the world in that way - they don’t. You need to take responsibility of your dog instead of assuming others will.

If you think there’s a reasonable chance that your dog will bite a stranger, then you do need to muzzle it. Someone being in proximity to your dog, doesn’t then make it okay that your dog bites. It doesn’t absolve you of responsibility. So the responsible thing to do is just muzzle it for the edge cases.

Pancakesandcream33 · 09/04/2026 08:47

HeartyViper · 09/04/2026 08:40

But surely, it is the parents responsibility to ensure their toddler does not run up to dogs they don’t know and try to grab them?
OP was in fact keeping a close eye on her dog - the toddler was running unsupervised.

The dog should be muzzled if it is reactionary and potentially dangerous. I have a very large dog which has grown up with small children but I'm still not that selfish to risk another child's face purely because it would be the other person's fault for approaching. I also wouldn't risk my dog being put down because someone let their child startle her unmuzzled. A dog with that many triggers is a dangerous dog and should be treated as such in public.

NoisyHiker · 09/04/2026 08:44

Whattodo1610 · 08/04/2026 23:14

Such a dick comment, it really is. 🙄🙄
Give me a Rottweiler over a yappy snappy little chihuahua/terrier type any day.

You know the disdain you feel for those ignorant people tarring big dogs under one brush? How annoying them making assumptions because of sterotypes and a lack of intelligence/understanding is?

Small dogs have this reputation because of owners who don't understand what their breed needs (in the case of chihuahuas and other toy breeds, very early training that big hands near their heads is a good thing and extensive socialisation). The problem is shitty owners who think a small dog barking or growling from terror is 'cute' and who treat them more like an accessory than a dog, making them miserable.

Our smaller rescue dogs have always needed far more work than the big ones around making them feel safe in the world and not experiencing fear aggression. Our chihuahua from a puppy has been the most trainable, loving dog (we often have people saying 'I don't usually like small dogs but...'.

Negative breed/dog stereotypes are usually 80% down to shit owners.

Dimpledaisies · 09/04/2026 08:44

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Vet's daughter here, used to work at his surgery. In many years, we NEVER had an aggressive Rottweiler. Most are complete gentle giants. The ones I'm wary of are small terriers, some of which can be really nasty.

Galtymore · 09/04/2026 08:43

I’m not in the UK so this isn’t particularly relevant, but just as a point of comparison…Where I am there is a restricted dogs list and the breeds on it must always be kept muzzled in public and on a strong, short lead by someone who can control them.
Rottweiler crossbreeds are on the list.

Pancakesandcream33 · 09/04/2026 08:43

If you are concerned that your dog might bite a child then it really should be muzzled on walks. Lots of dog owners use muzzles. You should also avoid areas which are highly trafficked by children (like parks) if you do not intent to muzzle it.

Dimpledaisies · 09/04/2026 08:41

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HeartyViper · 09/04/2026 08:40

OhWise1 · 09/04/2026 08:07

It is primarily the dog owner's responsibility to protect children from their dog, not the parents

But surely, it is the parents responsibility to ensure their toddler does not run up to dogs they don’t know and try to grab them?
OP was in fact keeping a close eye on her dog - the toddler was running unsupervised.

HeartyViper · 09/04/2026 08:38

Frequency · 08/04/2026 22:20

Are Reagles (I hate stupid, made-up names for mongrels, but that's what he is classed as at the vets) known for aggression?

Also, whether he is intimidating is a matter of personal opinion; I happen to think he is the dopiest-looking thing I've ever seen in my life.

Those ears 😍😍😍😍

Bethany83 · 09/04/2026 08:36

He's gorgeous O.P and as he is a rescue dog, I am sure he is having a very happy life with you. You also sound like lovely, sensible and responsible dog owners.
Ignore any ignorant comments.

Pebblesonthebleach · 09/04/2026 08:34

Just a very good reminder that a large proportion of parents are monumentally shit. I really don’t understand why they bother having kids if they aren’t prepared to undertake the most basic level parenting.

hattie43 · 09/04/2026 08:30

OhWise1 · 09/04/2026 08:07

It is primarily the dog owner's responsibility to protect children from their dog, not the parents

Don’t be ridiculous. Would you apply that logic to traffic or knife weilding thugs . It’s absolutely the parents responsibility to protect their children from harm , injury , death .

likeafishneedsabike · 09/04/2026 08:24

Adorable dog OP. Shocking behaviour from the toddler’s parent. I think this is very much on the increase though. We were walking in a city centre yesterday and parents were allowing children no older than 2.5 to run around a pavement right next to a main road junction. Buses were thundering past and nobody had a handle on these loose toddlers. DH very nearly tripped over one as she ran right under his feet.

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