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AIBU to be astounded at people’s shamelessness?

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Dontbeconspicuous · 07/04/2026 18:09

On a train home from work. Girl came and sat next to me (looked around 18-22) started scrolling TikTok at mid-volume. I politely asked “excuse me do you have any headphones?” She said she didn’t so I asked if she would turn the volume down so we didn’t all have to listen.

That lasted around 30 seconds before she started again. After another 5-10 minutes I asked again, “excuse me could you turn the volume down so we don’t all have to hear it”, she just looked at me blankly, made a quick phone call then carried on scrolling at an even louder volume. Loads of other people in the carriage but no one said anything. I didn’t bother again as it was now clear what the outcome would be.

How have we got to the point where someone can have their antisocial behaviour pointed out to them twice, but just carry on regardless? When did people become so brazen?

PS I don’t want to hear “just bring your own headphones” because that doesn’t address the complete lack of respect for other people.

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Pinnacles · 07/04/2026 19:03

The only thing you can do is play Beethoven very loudly on your own phone.

Summertimemadness2026 · 07/04/2026 18:41

You are not being unreasonable at all. I experience this on pretty much every commute into and back from the office. Mostly people having really loud conversations with their phone on speaker so we all have to hear, or really long, loud conversations right in your face. I don't want to hear anyone's conversations. If someone calls me whilst I'm on a bus or train, I say, can I call you back? Am on a train! I have no desire to have a conversation with a load of people listening in but some people seem to get off on it. Unfortunately a large proportion of people nowadays are completely selfish and entitled.

Devilsmommy · 07/04/2026 18:36

ilovepixie · 07/04/2026 18:22

Because people these days are self entitled, selfish twats.

This 100%

ThisOneLife · 07/04/2026 18:34

Sadly it’s not just the young, adults are just as bad. I was on a flight last week and the middle-aged woman had a film on loudspeaker for the whole journey. That she was also non-stop talking to /at her husband the whole time made it even worse. Man on the aisle opposite going the same thing, asked him to put in his earphones but he said he didn’t have any and kept going.

GirlWednesday · 07/04/2026 18:32

I often wonder if it’s my age that leads me to be shocked by some of the awful behaviour of some people these days.

I’m 47 and I remember putting my feet on the seat opposite me when I was on a bus. I must have been about 18. An ‘old’ woman (probably only about 50!) told me off. I was mortified and rightly so. I got off the bus at the next stop. I never did it again. Nowadays, a lot of kids would have told her to fuck off.

I don’t know if it’s an age thing. I remember older people many years ago saying ‘the youth of today has no respect’.

It’s reassuring to know it’s not just me that feels like this!

Itsmetheflamingo · 07/04/2026 18:31

Dontbeconspicuous · 07/04/2026 18:26

Don’t you think it’s shameless behaviour to know you’re being inconsiderate, being asked to stop, but carrying on anyway?

Definitely didn’t seem under the influence of anything.

I think shame is a strange description to attach to the behaviour, yes.

seems like there is an epidemic of people wanting women, especially young women, to feel shame.

Cleanhairbrush · 07/04/2026 18:30

I am on the bus every week with grown adults doing the same. It’s awful, I have been threatened in the past when I asked people to stop. I am too scared now to say anything. It’s so depressing that society is like this now.

Lomonald · 07/04/2026 18:28

FoolOfShips · 07/04/2026 18:21

Well, YABU to be 'astounded' by it - alas, it's commonplace. YANBU to lament it.

Yes this, I was on a bus today a young woman was chatting on loud speaker and her friend was singing 😂 I honestly think the self awareness gene hasn't kicked in for some!

Dontbeconspicuous · 07/04/2026 18:26

Itsmetheflamingo · 07/04/2026 18:22

I don’t think that’s shameless. Its not shameful behaviour, its inconsiderate.

she was probably pissed or high.

Don’t you think it’s shameless behaviour to know you’re being inconsiderate, being asked to stop, but carrying on anyway?

Definitely didn’t seem under the influence of anything.

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5MinuteArgument · 07/04/2026 18:25

Yes, it's the new normal. Just another aspect of modern life that's become 'acceptable'. I occasionally challenge people and they always look astonished! It doesn't bode well for the future.

Itsmetheflamingo · 07/04/2026 18:22

I don’t think that’s shameless. Its not shameful behaviour, its inconsiderate.

she was probably pissed or high.

ilovepixie · 07/04/2026 18:22

Because people these days are self entitled, selfish twats.

FoolOfShips · 07/04/2026 18:21

Well, YABU to be 'astounded' by it - alas, it's commonplace. YANBU to lament it.

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