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AIBU to be astounded at people’s shamelessness?

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Dontbeconspicuous · 07/04/2026 18:09

On a train home from work. Girl came and sat next to me (looked around 18-22) started scrolling TikTok at mid-volume. I politely asked “excuse me do you have any headphones?” She said she didn’t so I asked if she would turn the volume down so we didn’t all have to listen.

That lasted around 30 seconds before she started again. After another 5-10 minutes I asked again, “excuse me could you turn the volume down so we don’t all have to hear it”, she just looked at me blankly, made a quick phone call then carried on scrolling at an even louder volume. Loads of other people in the carriage but no one said anything. I didn’t bother again as it was now clear what the outcome would be.

How have we got to the point where someone can have their antisocial behaviour pointed out to them twice, but just carry on regardless? When did people become so brazen?

PS I don’t want to hear “just bring your own headphones” because that doesn’t address the complete lack of respect for other people.

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CitizenofMoronia · 08/04/2026 08:42

take nail clippers next time, take off your shoes and socks and clip your nails, make sure the clippings go her direction, she'll soon move, if she askes you to stop make a deal, STFU and ill put the unions away.

BunfightBetty · 08/04/2026 08:40

YANBU and yes, shame would be the appropriate emotion that these inconsiderate bastards should be feeling.

There are so many under-socialised people about, who just haven’t been brought up properly, it seems. No consideration for others, and abusive if anybody has the temerity to ask them to think of the other people around them.

I’d like to see a campaign on public transport to make this socially unacceptable once again.

Riapia · 08/04/2026 08:40

It’s unfortunate that bus companies can’t restrict that class of person from travel.

Dollymylove · 08/04/2026 08:32

Itsmetheflamingo · 07/04/2026 18:31

I think shame is a strange description to attach to the behaviour, yes.

seems like there is an epidemic of people wanting women, especially young women, to feel shame.

Should women have a free pass to piss everyone else off then?

Dontbeconspicuous · 08/04/2026 08:32

Lifealittleboulder · 08/04/2026 08:23

I think to be honest, it’s as much a reflection of the modern world as being mildly irritated by something and then posting it on the Internet to ask strangers whether you’re justified in being irritated…

Difference being I’m not being inconsiderate of other people by posting.
People have the choice whether come on a forum and the choice whether to read this post or not, unfortunately there was no choice for the fellow passengers being subjected to the sound of inane scrolling.

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frozendaisy · 08/04/2026 08:27

Some of the conversations you hear are fascinating though.

Lifealittleboulder · 08/04/2026 08:23

I think to be honest, it’s as much a reflection of the modern world as being mildly irritated by something and then posting it on the Internet to ask strangers whether you’re justified in being irritated…

aquashiv · 08/04/2026 08:21

I dislike loud conversations in a foreign language because I cannot understand what they're saying, preventing me from eavesdropping. I usually ignore them or switch to a silent carriage.

TY78910 · 08/04/2026 08:21

Dontbeconspicuous · 07/04/2026 19:12

Yep I’m the same age as you. Not that long ago a teenage girl near me had her feet on the seats, I tutted and she just asked me why I tutted at her. When I pointed out that there were notices saying that wasn’t allowed and that it’s not fair on people who will get on and sit there, she gave me a mouthful about having a bad back so she needed to have her feet up!

YANBU to be annoyed at someone watching loud videos on the train but it sounds like the girl was doing tit for tat by playing it louder each time you asked. And from this follow up post it sounds like you’re quite passive aggressive. Tutting at someone because they put their feet up on the bus? I’m almost not surprised she gave you a defensive mouthful - instead of asking politely you judgementally tutted at her? Based on that I can probably imagine the tone and demeanour in which you asked the girl on the train to turn her videos down was probably the same and she tried to get one up on you.

JMSA · 08/04/2026 08:17

Summergarden · 08/04/2026 08:08

I’ve experienced the same and don’t know how people have the nerve to be so blatantly inconsiderate of others in contained spaces like buses and trains.

Even worse, this sense of entitlement extends to the perceived right to just drop litter anywhere. There’s a litter epidemic in much of the UK, despite there being more rubbish bins than ever before in my town at least. I do regular litter picks of my local area and it’s depressing to see how many people just drop their empty drinks bottles and other rubbish as they walk even if a bin is in sight.

I would flog them all publicly. And sign up for the job.
I curse litter louts. They are scum.

Dontbeconspicuous · 08/04/2026 08:17

MrsCarmelaSoprano · 08/04/2026 08:11

It went out the window at the precise moment you had to buy Apple ear buds as they made them the only compatible ones with iPhones. Drives me bonkers, so inconsiderate.

But that’s really no excuse, I’ve had the same pair of £15 non-Apple earbuds for the past few years that I use with my iPhone.

Also people should be able to survive a journey without videos!

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Winederlust · 08/04/2026 08:16

Itsmetheflamingo · 07/04/2026 18:31

I think shame is a strange description to attach to the behaviour, yes.

seems like there is an epidemic of people wanting women, especially young women, to feel shame.

There are times when people should feel shame. When called out on poor behaviour is probably the number 1 example. So it's an apt description imo.
Not sure the sex of the person is relevant in this situation.

JMSA · 08/04/2026 08:15

Some people are just selfish twats.
YANBU.

MrsCarmelaSoprano · 08/04/2026 08:11

Lomonald · 07/04/2026 18:28

Yes this, I was on a bus today a young woman was chatting on loud speaker and her friend was singing 😂 I honestly think the self awareness gene hasn't kicked in for some!

It went out the window at the precise moment you had to buy Apple ear buds as they made them the only compatible ones with iPhones. Drives me bonkers, so inconsiderate.

Summergarden · 08/04/2026 08:08

I’ve experienced the same and don’t know how people have the nerve to be so blatantly inconsiderate of others in contained spaces like buses and trains.

Even worse, this sense of entitlement extends to the perceived right to just drop litter anywhere. There’s a litter epidemic in much of the UK, despite there being more rubbish bins than ever before in my town at least. I do regular litter picks of my local area and it’s depressing to see how many people just drop their empty drinks bottles and other rubbish as they walk even if a bin is in sight.

Peony1985 · 08/04/2026 08:01

Yes some people are really annoying and lack social skills.
I was at a small garden centre on Monday. Just people mooching round. One family ( literally stood out from the others) was just so loud, yelling inane comments to each other from different sections outside.

I couldn’t think of a suitable way to ask them to stop - it was just inappropriately loud bollocks.

On trains my DH usually jokes about joining in with whatever they are watching and then does.

Hobbitfeet32 · 08/04/2026 07:46

It’s no wonder. Having read on the thread about the mum asking her son to come on a walk with her for 15 minutes and the majority of posters saying it’s outrageous to ask a teenager to do anything nice for someone else this is possibly one of the reasons that we are noticing this increase in entitled behaviour. no shame at all.

Lomonald · 08/04/2026 07:32

JustAnotherWhinger · 07/04/2026 19:22

People don’t even think before being loud on trains and buses anymore.

Last time I got the train to London it was properly busy (it’s a Scotland-England train) and a woman paid for something over the phone by reading out her card details - she gave her name, full card number, code and expiry date and everyone in the carriage could hear her.

Stupid woman! It is back to no self awareness, I recently heard some on loudspeaker to DWP talking about a benefit claim and giving out personal details!

AmandaHoldensLips · 07/04/2026 19:23

It does my head in. I have no idea how these moronic people can think it's ok to pollute the communal air with their digital drivel.

I am trying to train myself to zone out as I am clearly fighting City Hall on this one.

JustAnotherWhinger · 07/04/2026 19:22

People don’t even think before being loud on trains and buses anymore.

Last time I got the train to London it was properly busy (it’s a Scotland-England train) and a woman paid for something over the phone by reading out her card details - she gave her name, full card number, code and expiry date and everyone in the carriage could hear her.

1000StrawberryLollies · 07/04/2026 19:16

Itsmetheflamingo · 07/04/2026 18:31

I think shame is a strange description to attach to the behaviour, yes.

seems like there is an epidemic of people wanting women, especially young women, to feel shame.

It's sounds almost as if you are suggesting that shame is specific to sexual behaviour or to expectations of women, but clearly that's not true. Shame is an important human emotion. It's a very unpleasant one to feel - that's why it's good at preventing us from doing bad and antisocial things. However, there are clearly behaviours which would once have been considered antisocial which are now accepted as normal, like the example in the OP.

Dontbeconspicuous · 07/04/2026 19:12

GirlWednesday · 07/04/2026 18:32

I often wonder if it’s my age that leads me to be shocked by some of the awful behaviour of some people these days.

I’m 47 and I remember putting my feet on the seat opposite me when I was on a bus. I must have been about 18. An ‘old’ woman (probably only about 50!) told me off. I was mortified and rightly so. I got off the bus at the next stop. I never did it again. Nowadays, a lot of kids would have told her to fuck off.

I don’t know if it’s an age thing. I remember older people many years ago saying ‘the youth of today has no respect’.

It’s reassuring to know it’s not just me that feels like this!

Yep I’m the same age as you. Not that long ago a teenage girl near me had her feet on the seats, I tutted and she just asked me why I tutted at her. When I pointed out that there were notices saying that wasn’t allowed and that it’s not fair on people who will get on and sit there, she gave me a mouthful about having a bad back so she needed to have her feet up!

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Dontbeconspicuous · 07/04/2026 19:07

FoolOfShips · 07/04/2026 18:21

Well, YABU to be 'astounded' by it - alas, it's commonplace. YANBU to lament it.

Not astounded by the noise from the phone as I encounter that all the time. Astounded by being asked twice but carrying on anyway, yes.

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EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 07/04/2026 19:05

Because they don’t give a shit. Society doesn’t really exist anymore. It’s just lots of individuals pissing people off.

Dontbeconspicuous · 07/04/2026 19:03

Itsmetheflamingo · 07/04/2026 18:31

I think shame is a strange description to attach to the behaviour, yes.

seems like there is an epidemic of people wanting women, especially young women, to feel shame.

I would think the behaviour was shameless if it came from a man (of any age) too!

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