AIBU to be astounded at people’s shamelessness?

Oh please.🙄
Selfish behaviour being called out isnt the shameful thing here.

I'm so glad I don't have to get on public transport anymore! But even 15 years ago I started always carrying headphones with me because other people were so fucking selfish and entitled.

I think you’re reading too much into this. Society is held together by a little bit of healthy shame - the kind where you know people will think you’re a shitty person if you drop your litter on the ground, or play your music at top volume at 3am on a school night, or behave in other ways that show no regard for other people around you or your shared environment.

This was quite the thing back in the mid 00s, obnoxious people playing shitty tinny music on their phones for everyone to hear. It stopped for quite a while when everyone started getting headphones and earpieces. I've no idea why it's started up again; people usually prefer to be plugged in and shut off from what I see.

It's just as obnoxious now as it was then, though.

YANBU. I feel the exact same way. People do not care. We’re living in an age of narcissism where people have little regard for others - it’s like a disease.

Yes, behaviour shaming is quite different from circumstance commenting or shaming.

Wagner, the Ride of the Valkyries might also do the trick.

People being that inconsiderate should be ashamed! I don't understand this logic of it being wrong to shame people for crappy behaviour.
The point about not shaming people was for things like being a single mother - that's crappy shaming.

Adding for balance: I've also noticed apparent OAPs scrolling with the volume up in public places in recent months

Completely disagree - her selfishness was very shameful.

We had this with an influx of new starters aged from mid-twenties to mid-forties - scrolling reels on their phones during induction - and gaping at you, astonished, when asked to stop. What's wrong with people?

Yes. My ex-DH is in a medical managerial role in the NHS. The job is patient facing & medical. The amount of times he needs to have recurrent conversations about no fake nails/ sleeves/ jewellery/ open shoes/ correct uniform as it's a medical requirement due to infection control is just crazy. Unfortunately it is the younger staff. They have all completed a 4 year degree & had extensive clinical time during this training in many different hospitals. It drives him crazy, least of all as he just doesn't have time for it.

It isn’t new. When I was a teen in the 00s chavs would take Bluetooth speakers and sit at the back of the bus blasting their shit music. I almost always have my AirPods in so I don’t have to listen but yeah, some people still do listen to annoying videos out loud.

There was a bloke watching videos without headphones in a GP waiting room the other day. Not particularly loud - but I just don't understand how people think this is ok.

I’ve experienced the same and don’t know how people have the nerve to be so blatantly inconsiderate of others in contained spaces like buses and trains.

I agree. I wouldn't dream of inflicting my choice of music or loud conversation on other people.

A couple of bad experiences have totally put me off public transport for anything other than short journeys. At least if I drive, I don't have to put up with other people's racket, and fight the urge to snatch their phones from their hands, hurl them* to the ground and stamp on the fucking things.

*phones, not hands!

Opera's best imo: start off with a jolly bit of Mozart and work your way up to some Wagner.

At least headphones are better quality now, years ago you could still hear a tinny version of what people were listening to.

It's not a new thing. 20-30 years ago I did a lot of travelling by public transport, and there was a lot of people listening without headphones.
I'd say people are far more likely to have headphones today than back then.

I am always amazed and the ability of people to talk nonsense/chitchat for ages. Often it's in another language so I have no idea what they're saying but am amazed people have that much to say to each other!

Has it got worse since phone manufacturers got rid of the headphone jack? I think everything has to be Bluetooth now. I'm not making excuses, I just wonder if it's contributing to the problem.

Oh give over.

YANBU. I HATE this especially now the tube in London has WiFi my previously gloriously quiet commute/reading time I now have to put up
with idiots FaceTiming and watching videos full volume on their phones 😡

I'm really hoping that this fad of not using headphones in public will end soon. I honestly don't understand it and think it is incredibly ignorant. Given how cheap and readily available headphones are, it is definitely a conscious decision to not use them.
And the same can be said for this new trendy way of speaking on a mobile by holding it away from the ear and down from the face, so that both speakers have to speak loudly to hear each other - why??

Rubbish. They can be asked perfectly nicely and they'll still do it or ramp it up. They just don't like being told what to do. Employers are experiencing the same problem when these fools manage to get a job. It's a fundamental change in behaviour.

Public transport vehicles should be fitted with jammers so we dont have to listen to other peoples shit 😅