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AIBU to be astounded at people’s shamelessness?

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Dontbeconspicuous · 07/04/2026 18:09

On a train home from work. Girl came and sat next to me (looked around 18-22) started scrolling TikTok at mid-volume. I politely asked “excuse me do you have any headphones?” She said she didn’t so I asked if she would turn the volume down so we didn’t all have to listen.

That lasted around 30 seconds before she started again. After another 5-10 minutes I asked again, “excuse me could you turn the volume down so we don’t all have to hear it”, she just looked at me blankly, made a quick phone call then carried on scrolling at an even louder volume. Loads of other people in the carriage but no one said anything. I didn’t bother again as it was now clear what the outcome would be.

How have we got to the point where someone can have their antisocial behaviour pointed out to them twice, but just carry on regardless? When did people become so brazen?

PS I don’t want to hear “just bring your own headphones” because that doesn’t address the complete lack of respect for other people.

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Dontbeconspicuous · 08/04/2026 19:18

SnakesandKnives · 08/04/2026 19:05

Was on a train from Bedford to London last week and there were a couple of lads doing this and it was bloody annoying. Fairly elderly lady asked them politely to turn it down. The response was ‘oh fuck off grandma’ while smirking at each other

her response was quite something. She leapt up with a ‘what did you fucking say to me you little shit? You want to fucking make something of this?’ With a full on gangster style, wide eyed lunatic look. Right up to them and in their faces. They went absolutely white and silent and left the carriage. Was brilliant!

not an approach I’d have the nerve for but pretty awesome.

Bravo that woman!

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NeedAnyHelpWithThatPaperBag · 08/04/2026 19:10

Perhaps it will stop when eventually "everyone" is doing this and the cacophony will be such that even the CF's will be forced to wear headphones to hear anything, lol.

SnakesandKnives · 08/04/2026 19:05

Was on a train from Bedford to London last week and there were a couple of lads doing this and it was bloody annoying. Fairly elderly lady asked them politely to turn it down. The response was ‘oh fuck off grandma’ while smirking at each other

her response was quite something. She leapt up with a ‘what did you fucking say to me you little shit? You want to fucking make something of this?’ With a full on gangster style, wide eyed lunatic look. Right up to them and in their faces. They went absolutely white and silent and left the carriage. Was brilliant!

not an approach I’d have the nerve for but pretty awesome.

suburburban · 08/04/2026 18:36

Ketryne · 08/04/2026 17:58

This isn’t a new behaviour but it does drive me nuts. DH and I having been calling it ‘being a bus chav’ for years (yes I know mn hates the word chav).

If either of us briefly put the sound on our phones at home on the sofa or in bed, we get told off by the other for being a bus chav.

I actually don’t know how people watch as much TikTok as they do, how is there that much time in the day when it’s suitable to have the sound on your phone!

Bus Chav is brilliant😂

rosycheex · 08/04/2026 18:34

It’s bloody human rights - everyone has the right to be as twatty as they like.
And CCTV works against normal people - if you threatened anyone nowadays you’d be in court being fined.

pouletvous · 08/04/2026 18:19

It’s annoying but so are old people who punch endless text messages and their phone makes a click or beep sound for every letter they type

drives me mad

pouletvous · 08/04/2026 18:17

Remember the good old days when youths played music on ghetto blasters on the bus?

OneKeenPeachRaven · 08/04/2026 18:03

YANBU. When I see this behaviour I usually say something if I think it's safe to do so. A few years ago that would've worked the vast majority of the time. Nowadays either a full mouthful or 'complies for a couple of mins then decides to be a PITA again' seems to be far more common.

Ochtawa · 08/04/2026 18:01

dizzydizzydizzy · 08/04/2026 17:51

I was about to say much the same….. I was trying to have a nice quiet breakfast in a cafe. There was one other customer- a woman of about 70. She had a 45 minute FaceTime call on full volume! When I complained to her she said it was ok because it was a special occasion because her son had just arrived in Australia. Well, strangely, having a peaceful breakfast in a cafe was supposed to be a special occasion for me.

Yeah it's definitely not just young people. Some of the worst behaviour I've encountered has been in the 50+ age group. Like the woman who told me to move out of the way in Seville cathedral, because apparently I'd been standing in one place for too long and she wanted to take a photo.

(I replied in my best Mongolian that I didn't understand her, rude bastard.)

DY10DY11 · 08/04/2026 17:59

@HotRootsAndNaughtyToots I've seen plenty of older people having conversations on speaker phone with the volume high. Very irritating indeed.

Ketryne · 08/04/2026 17:58

This isn’t a new behaviour but it does drive me nuts. DH and I having been calling it ‘being a bus chav’ for years (yes I know mn hates the word chav).

If either of us briefly put the sound on our phones at home on the sofa or in bed, we get told off by the other for being a bus chav.

I actually don’t know how people watch as much TikTok as they do, how is there that much time in the day when it’s suitable to have the sound on your phone!

Wingedharpy · 08/04/2026 17:55

HotRootsAndNaughtyToots · 08/04/2026 11:36

Adding for balance: I've also noticed apparent OAPs scrolling with the volume up in public places in recent months

That'll be me looking for whatever I need to press/tap/swipe to turn the f***g thing off. 😉

Fizbosshoes · 08/04/2026 17:54

SeaShellsSanctuary1 · 08/04/2026 13:42

I'm not condoning behaviour but people were walking round with stereos the size of washing machines on their shoulders in the 70s/80s. It's certainly nothing new that people can be inconsiderate.

Noise pollution is also certainly down to perception. I would much prefer to listen to teenagers music than the details of a hospital appointment talked about by pensioners

I didnt commute in the 80s (too young) but i did go on buses or trains fairly regularly and people with stereos or ghetto blasters were not regular occurences. And certainly not multiples of them , in one train carriage.
whereas now its not unusual to be able to hear multiple people's media - it could be 3 people with "leaky" headphones, 1 person without headphones, 2 people on speakerphone etc...all in a confined space!

dizzydizzydizzy · 08/04/2026 17:51

ThisOneLife · 07/04/2026 18:34

Sadly it’s not just the young, adults are just as bad. I was on a flight last week and the middle-aged woman had a film on loudspeaker for the whole journey. That she was also non-stop talking to /at her husband the whole time made it even worse. Man on the aisle opposite going the same thing, asked him to put in his earphones but he said he didn’t have any and kept going.

I was about to say much the same….. I was trying to have a nice quiet breakfast in a cafe. There was one other customer- a woman of about 70. She had a 45 minute FaceTime call on full volume! When I complained to her she said it was ok because it was a special occasion because her son had just arrived in Australia. Well, strangely, having a peaceful breakfast in a cafe was supposed to be a special occasion for me.

Dontbeconspicuous · 08/04/2026 17:51

OwlBeThere · 08/04/2026 17:45

YABU to act like rude people who don’t care about others are a new thing that hasn’t always been the case.

That wasn’t what I asked and I didn’t say it was a new thing.

What was new to me personally was someone not responding after being asked twice, in public, to be more considerate - that’s a new low.

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DY10DY11 · 08/04/2026 17:47

New level of obnoxious behaviour unlocked in the supermarket today. Couple with several children. One child aged about 2 in the trolley with what was some sort of karaoke microphone blasting out Disney tunes that she could also sing into I think. It was an awful noise which I could hear 3 aisles away. I kept trying to move on so they weren't close to me all the way around.

OwlBeThere · 08/04/2026 17:45

Dontbeconspicuous · 07/04/2026 18:09

On a train home from work. Girl came and sat next to me (looked around 18-22) started scrolling TikTok at mid-volume. I politely asked “excuse me do you have any headphones?” She said she didn’t so I asked if she would turn the volume down so we didn’t all have to listen.

That lasted around 30 seconds before she started again. After another 5-10 minutes I asked again, “excuse me could you turn the volume down so we don’t all have to hear it”, she just looked at me blankly, made a quick phone call then carried on scrolling at an even louder volume. Loads of other people in the carriage but no one said anything. I didn’t bother again as it was now clear what the outcome would be.

How have we got to the point where someone can have their antisocial behaviour pointed out to them twice, but just carry on regardless? When did people become so brazen?

PS I don’t want to hear “just bring your own headphones” because that doesn’t address the complete lack of respect for other people.

YABU to act like rude people who don’t care about others are a new thing that hasn’t always been the case.

Ochtawa · 08/04/2026 17:41

SeaShellsSanctuary1 · 08/04/2026 13:42

I'm not condoning behaviour but people were walking round with stereos the size of washing machines on their shoulders in the 70s/80s. It's certainly nothing new that people can be inconsiderate.

Noise pollution is also certainly down to perception. I would much prefer to listen to teenagers music than the details of a hospital appointment talked about by pensioners

People had to make a deliberate choice to carry around boom boxes though. Not so with phones - they're everywhere and everyone has one.

Normal conversation from pensioners or otherwise isn't the same - there is a distinct acoustically intrusive quality to electronic noise and general media broadcasting that isn't present in the human voice.

Dontbeconspicuous · 08/04/2026 17:38

Nosejobnelly · 08/04/2026 17:28

Happens all the time. I was in a hospital waiting room today - very quiet, many people w cancer (not me thankfully) and some woman w phone on full blast.

That’s terrible. I’d hope though that if she was asked to turn it down she would have.

That’s the real issue I posted about- not the noise itself but the refusal to stop after being asked to turn it down.

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Dontbeconspicuous · 08/04/2026 17:35

oviraptor21 · 08/04/2026 17:31

I suspect the OP would have said exactly the same about a man twattishly playing TikTok videos - the only difference would be that she wouldn't risk asking him to turn them down.

Entirely true! I have actually asked men a few times, only the ones that don’t look too scary which is a sad state of affairs in itself.

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auserna · 08/04/2026 17:34

Nosejobnelly · 08/04/2026 17:28

Happens all the time. I was in a hospital waiting room today - very quiet, many people w cancer (not me thankfully) and some woman w phone on full blast.

There should be a fine for that sort of behaviour.

oviraptor21 · 08/04/2026 17:31

Itsmetheflamingo · 07/04/2026 18:31

I think shame is a strange description to attach to the behaviour, yes.

seems like there is an epidemic of people wanting women, especially young women, to feel shame.

I suspect the OP would have said exactly the same about a man twattishly playing TikTok videos - the only difference would be that she wouldn't risk asking him to turn them down.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 08/04/2026 17:31

Itsmetheflamingo · 07/04/2026 18:31

I think shame is a strange description to attach to the behaviour, yes.

seems like there is an epidemic of people wanting women, especially young women, to feel shame.

I have to say it’s ALWAYS young women who plonk themselves in the first available seats on the bus - the disabled/priority ones.
Someone will probably now tell me that they have hidden disabilities. All of them.
Then I have to wonder why I have literally never seen any young man doing this.

And I use buses a lot.

Nosejobnelly · 08/04/2026 17:28

Happens all the time. I was in a hospital waiting room today - very quiet, many people w cancer (not me thankfully) and some woman w phone on full blast.

auserna · 08/04/2026 17:26

Cantbloodyrememberthenameonthread · 08/04/2026 15:15

wow that’s dramatic

It's entirely true.

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