AIBU to be astounded at people’s shamelessness?

No sane person expects silence on public transport. But there is a marked difference between the ordinary sounds of the train itself mixed with quiet chatter as compared with someone next to you opening a tablet or a phone and playing music or watching reels unnecessarily loudly when they can easily eliminate the noise by wearing headphones.

And if all four people around a table listen to their own personal devices without headphones it becomes a cacophony,

Besides which it is impolite to impose your individual choice of entertainment on others.

I have came across many people whose voices I have found irritating too but that’s life. Why do “phone people” need to have more consideration for people than we do of them?” Can we not all just try to have a bit more consideration and tolerance for each other?

Yes I totally agree

playing music or videos on phone with no headphones is rude and anti social as is having a Sybil Faulty style call on loudspeaker droning on and on

Stop inflicting your drivel on everyone else when in public

Or how about showing a little tolerance. I think it is totally unrealistic to expect silence on public transport. I think saying martyring yourself is a little bit dramatic. Is the noise irritating? Yes it is. I do agree with that but as I have said there are many things people find irritating about public transport and it’s not possible to eliminate all of them

I think on a previous thread discussing the same annoyances, someone suggested reading their book or newspaper aloud....

Brilliant strategy!

Tempting to have a Dom jolly style pretend call. Hello, on a train, very noisy, person next to me watching something on tic tic and turned it up after I asked her to turn it down. Agree I must be old and intolerant. Just wanted to read my book. Perhaps I will ask to watch it too.

She was clearly looking for confrontation, she knew she was pissing you off. There’s reasons for her acting like this. For example, she could have just left the house with an argument with her mother, you sat next to her reminded her of mother figure, she wanted to piss you off as much as her mother had pissed her off. In psychology it’s called displacement (shifting emotions from their original target to a new, less threatening target.)

Totally, I cannot fathom why anyone would think playing their videos / music with sound without headphones is acceptable, even with headphones to keep it at an acceptable level.
headphones or silent.
rather like having a telephone call, keep your voice low, phone to your ear and NOT hands free and keep it brief, just be polite.
I think there should be more staff on thr train to implement this and not so much down to general public.
well done you though.

Eh??? If that's true, then why do my Marshall On Ear headphones work with my iPhone.....? I can have my music as loud as I please, but only I can hear it

It's called Bluetooth

I work in a hospital and had a woman conduct a very loud and smutty FaceTime call in the waiting room at full volume. I despair

I like to read and very much do have problems shutting out the sound around me. The point is, we are all different. I try and find a quiet carriage but they aren’t always available.

Also, I think there is a standard of behaviour that falls between martyring yourself for others, and not hurting or endangering them? The latter is a pretty low base. How about trying not to irritate, annoy or upset others? How about showing a bit of consideration?

As I’ve said it’s not something I like either but it is the world we live in and unless you are on a quiet carriage or its obnoxiously loud then I don’t really think there is much you can do. Yes in an ideal world they would use headphones but when using public transport you are going to get different types and levels of noise and u can think of lots of worse things than this. Maybe I’m just more tolerant and accept that when using public transport I’m going to be sharing it with members of the public that may have different ways to pass their journey but as long as they aren’t hurting or endangering anyone that is up to them. I personally like to read and do t have any problem shutting out the noise around me

I'm really interested to read this because presumably it's how people who do this feel.

I find it incredibly irritating and impossible to tune out even with my own headphones in. Any phone noise is bad because it's so tinny, but scrolling is the worst because the sound changes every few seconds. I admire people who speak up: I mostly silently seethe.

No they need to be considerate of other travellers as a priority and read or do something quiet on journeys or use headphones as much as possible

Why didn’t you ask the staff to stop them? Air stewards usually take no nonsense.

agree with the OP and others. FWIW I take the tube most days and I always tell people to turn their music down or take their feet off the seats. I once had some teens vaping on the train and I reported them to BTP and told them so as they got off the train.

to be fair - I get on in zone 6 with a bunch of other suburban middle aged people and I actually hardly see this behaviour when I travel but it’s more common at other times.

I don’t agree. The sound from a phone is more shrill and really irritating (and usually louder than the sound of the train/bus or whatever. Normal conversation is a different pitch.
Yes, there’s other types of antisocial behaviour but the OP was specifically talking about noise from phones. Headphones are ten a penny, you don’t need expensive ones, so there is no excuse imho. Decent people would just mute their phones and scroll silently.
These phone people need to have more consideration for people than we do for them. That’s the #bekind BS talking.

I agree. I have asked people before and they’ve obliged but I’m sure some couldn’t give a bollock.

I had the same yesterday on the tube and I just stuck my noise cancelling ear buds in as actually I could t tell where it was coming from. I often move away from the person if at all possible.

It’s so rude and i’m sick of it, people are so inconsiderate. If you have no headphones then just scroll something that doesn’t require sound. The whole carriage does not want to hear it.