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Aibu to hate Michael Gove?

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merrycola · 06/04/2026 21:18

AIBU to hate Michael Gove for single-handedly creating the “overdiagnosis” crisis he’s now nowhere near enough to answer for?
Because let’s connect the dots.
He made the curriculum harder, narrower, and more rigid. Ofsted built an inspection framework around it that treats children like data points. And now — years later — we’ve got CAMHS referrals through the roof, school avoidance at record levels, exclusion rates climbing, teachers quitting in droves, and a growing media narrative that too many children are being diagnosed and parents are being pushy.
But nobody seems to want to say the obvious thing: we didn’t suddenly produce a generation of broken children. We built a system that broke the environment around them and then pathologised the ones who couldn’t cope.
The strategies that actually help — clear instructions, sensory breaks, mutual respect, not shouting — aren’t special needs strategies. They’re just good teaching. But there’s no time for good teaching when you’re trying to force a curriculum designed by a man who apparently thinks childhood is an inefficiency to be optimised.

And here’s what really gets me. Every education secretary since could have undone it. But none of them have, because reversing course would mean admitting the whole framework was wrong and that it’s been harming children for over a decade. So instead we get headlines about overdiagnosis and parents wanting labels for benefits, while the man who lit the match is off doing whatever Michael Gove does now.

We didn’t get an overdiagnosis crisis. We got a system that can’t admit it failed, so it diagnosed the kids instead.

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cardibach · 06/04/2026 22:47

Hoppity80 · 06/04/2026 22:41

Well i have to say I’m really impressed with the education my DC are receiving in a state school and I think a lot of it is down to him.

Very glad to hear they are having an excellent education - but it’s in spite of Gove not because of him. Look at all the teachers on here saying what it’s done.

cardibach · 06/04/2026 22:43

sweetpeaorchestra · 06/04/2026 22:33

I’m sure your assessment is correct and I don’t think I was right to use Shakespeare as an example. I suppose it feels (from a parent POV) as though it’s literacy and maths in the most joyless presentation possible, and little else.

Most joyless presentation possible is indeed what the curriculum forces you into. You aren’t wrong.

cardibach · 06/04/2026 22:42

Pearlstillsinging · 06/04/2026 22:33

Oh yes. I taught "Hubble, bubble toil and trouble" to Y2 one Halloween sometime in early 2000s. They loved it!

My post should say retired English teacher. Somehow my phone edited that out…
If you get it on its feet and explore it that way kids usually end up loving it.

Hoppity80 · 06/04/2026 22:41

Well i have to say I’m really impressed with the education my DC are receiving in a state school and I think a lot of it is down to him.

bozzabollix · 06/04/2026 22:40

My son has just left school halfway through sixth form. Psychologically could not deal with it anymore. Gove broke all but the resilient and/or academic kids who have suffered his curriculum. My son is coming back to life since leaving, it’s crazy how bad an effect school has had on him.

He’s a total arsehole.

Strangerthanfictions · 06/04/2026 22:40

Placeoftides · 06/04/2026 21:29

I only work in a school kitchen but I have done for decades. You are completely right OP

You probably see the effects more than anyone

Foxyloxy89 · 06/04/2026 22:39

Yep. Teacher of almost 20 years here and SENDco who is burning out quickly. Bring back the fun, the flexibility and scrap this ridiculous curriculum and lots of problems will simply disappear. My children actively hate school and that for me is heartbreaking.

Ineedanaptoo · 06/04/2026 22:38

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 You are 💯 right. The damage he has done to generations of children is shocking.

GentleIron · 06/04/2026 22:36

Michael Gove epitomises clever gone awry. He really did break primary education in England. I have taught -at the coalface, in the classroom- for 30 years and am so saddened by what one man was able to bring about, to the detriment of so many. In all my years in the profession since the Gove reforms, I've never known anyone, teaching colleagues or school leaders, to glance around their school and sigh "Well, thank goodness that Gove came along and sorted us all out!"
The weaponisation of SEND and subsequent demonisation of parents breaks my heart. There is no coincidence that referrals for EHCP needs assessments and requests for referrals for ASD / ADHD / SPLD / EP assessments and CAMHS are at an all-time high when the primary curriculum is developmentally out of range for so many pupils. Children and young people really suffer in English primary schools, with serious long-term consequences for health and future prospects, despite the amazing work of colleagues who pour themselves into propping up a system which cynically exploits their good will.

Miranda65 · 06/04/2026 22:33

It's unreasonable to "hate" someone you've never met (though you may hate what they do or say).
Michael Gove is now in the House of Lords, and also editor of The Spectator. He strikes me (though I don't know him either), as one of the more interesting politicians of recent years.
Is it him who is responsible for the dumbing down of secondary education and also the grade inflation in university degrees? Or is that simply due to poor policies from across a number of different Governments?

sweetpeaorchestra · 06/04/2026 22:33

cardibach · 06/04/2026 22:24

As a retired y teacher I can confidently state that most students can, in fact, enjoy Shakespeare if it can be taught in an engaging way. Give ensured that wasn’t possible by overloading the curriculum. I’m not a maths teacher, but I suspect something similar is true there too. Education should be aspirational and expose us to things we didn’t know we could understand or enjoy. It’s the measuring every little detail and cramming so many things in that fucked it up.

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I’m sure your assessment is correct and I don’t think I was right to use Shakespeare as an example. I suppose it feels (from a parent POV) as though it’s literacy and maths in the most joyless presentation possible, and little else.

Pearlstillsinging · 06/04/2026 22:33

cardibach · 06/04/2026 22:24

As a retired y teacher I can confidently state that most students can, in fact, enjoy Shakespeare if it can be taught in an engaging way. Give ensured that wasn’t possible by overloading the curriculum. I’m not a maths teacher, but I suspect something similar is true there too. Education should be aspirational and expose us to things we didn’t know we could understand or enjoy. It’s the measuring every little detail and cramming so many things in that fucked it up.

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Oh yes. I taught "Hubble, bubble toil and trouble" to Y2 one Halloween sometime in early 2000s. They loved it!

hopspot · 06/04/2026 22:27

Cloop · 06/04/2026 21:23

Yep. Some of what I used to teach in Y5 is now Y3. The curriculum is fully accessible to about the top 20% of children only. Occasionally we do an easier lesson in maths (e.g. co-ordinates in Y4 is pretty achievable for most) and the improved behaviour, attitudes and happiness of the entire class is really evident. I fear there's no way back now though. The curriculum can't be seen to be 'dumbed down'.

I teach in KS1 and couldn’t agree more.

cardibach · 06/04/2026 22:26

rosycheex · 06/04/2026 22:20

England is well above Scotland in international levels

‘International levels’? If you mean PISA tests they are absolute bollocks and were not designed for comparison like that anyway.

CotswoldsCamilla · 06/04/2026 22:25

There’s also a correlation between social media use and poor mental health in tweens and teens. I don’t think Michael Gove can take all the blame. Covid and online learning haven’t helped either. I’d ban all tech in primary schools, apart from maybe one IT lesson per week and go back to pen and paper learning, no phones, no social media.

cardibach · 06/04/2026 22:24

sweetpeaorchestra · 06/04/2026 22:13

This is a personal obsession for me OP! I couldn’t ageee more. He dressed his rigid, tedious curriculum up as “egalitarian”, claiming it was aspirational - why shouldn’t children from all backgrounds excel at high level academics?
The fact is, many children - indeed people - will never be interested in Shakespeare or advanced maths, but they have many other skills and will form an important part of the workforce.
Sucking the joy out of learning has made many children feel stupid and pushed a lot of borderline kids onto the SEN register.

My bright ADHD 9 year old hasn’t been to school in two terms. Now I admit I can’t blame that entirely on Gove lol, but he sure hasn’t helped create an environment she could cope with

As a retired y teacher I can confidently state that most students can, in fact, enjoy Shakespeare if it can be taught in an engaging way. Give ensured that wasn’t possible by overloading the curriculum. I’m not a maths teacher, but I suspect something similar is true there too. Education should be aspirational and expose us to things we didn’t know we could understand or enjoy. It’s the measuring every little detail and cramming so many things in that fucked it up.

DanceMumTaxi · 06/04/2026 22:21

Been teaching 20 years and Gove is the very worst thing to happen to education in our country. Can’t think of one good thing he did.

rosycheex · 06/04/2026 22:20

England is well above Scotland in international levels

merrycola · 06/04/2026 22:19

CaragianettE · 06/04/2026 22:16

I voted YABU because you clearly wrote your post using AI. PLEASE cut that shit out. I absolutely loathe how it writes. Horrible ‘strike a pose’ dramatic sentences, and it makes every single issue sound the same.

I only used ai because if I hadn’t it would have been gove is a swearword who swearword and swearword and it would have been reported in 5 mins.
it helps me organise my thoughts and disguises my real voice (which for obvious reasons I’d want to hide going around having opinions like this) 😬

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Pearlstillsinging · 06/04/2026 22:16

Retired Primary teacher here. You are absolutely right. He knew nothing about education but insisted that everybody should follow his rules.
Many Children's experience of primary school was spoiled and the careers of teachers who tried to do the right thing by their pupils were ruined. I trained to teach in the 'child-centred education' years, which we really should get back to, for the mental well-being of all concerned.

CaragianettE · 06/04/2026 22:16

I voted YABU because you clearly wrote your post using AI. PLEASE cut that shit out. I absolutely loathe how it writes. Horrible ‘strike a pose’ dramatic sentences, and it makes every single issue sound the same.

BumbleNova · 06/04/2026 22:15

I can't agree enough. But please please please can we all stand up and shout for change? Bridget f**king philipson makes my blood boil. It's literally insane - it's breaking everyone in the system. My DS7 was suicidal and being sick with anxiety at the door - we pulled him out and have been homeschooling. No child should get to that point. It's taken him over a year to recover and even now he struggles to leave the house FFS. My youngest is now at at Steiner. It's far from perfect but no uniform, no SATs, no homework and no formal learning til 8. He is absolutely thriving. As he bloody should be at 5!

sweetpeaorchestra · 06/04/2026 22:13

This is a personal obsession for me OP! I couldn’t ageee more. He dressed his rigid, tedious curriculum up as “egalitarian”, claiming it was aspirational - why shouldn’t children from all backgrounds excel at high level academics?
The fact is, many children - indeed people - will never be interested in Shakespeare or advanced maths, but they have many other skills and will form an important part of the workforce.
Sucking the joy out of learning has made many children feel stupid and pushed a lot of borderline kids onto the SEN register.

My bright ADHD 9 year old hasn’t been to school in two terms. Now I admit I can’t blame that entirely on Gove lol, but he sure hasn’t helped create an environment she could cope with

TempestTost · 06/04/2026 22:13

You are not wrong in your assessment op. What I would say however is the same thing has happened in other countries too. So I think there is a significant element of political leaders being sold these ideas by civil servants,who were exposed to them by activists or salespeople of some kind. "Experts".

OrganisedOnTheSurface · 06/04/2026 22:13

Completely agree currently have a child trying to learn at home and reintegrate into school after the system broke them. I look at what they are learning and how and feels like it would break me too. Feel very thankful I was in school 35 years ago and not today.