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My DH is just a bit of a Neanderthal and it’s frustrating or am I the one who’s in the wrong ?

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dhandhisviews · 06/04/2026 07:53

It’s a bunch of things really. Mental health for example- I’ve struggled for a long time off and on- especially after I had babies, but he never really acknowledged it and is 100 percent against medication. I’ve never taken meds before for it. Recently I’ve really been struggling from health anxiety around myself and my kids and have been in a state. I don’t really talk to him about it ( or anyone ) as he doesn’t get it. Fine, some people just don’t. I did open up one night and told him I was struggling a lot and I was finally considering meds. He said I’ll be a zombie and won’t be able to look after my kids etc.

I explained that it really helps some people and he just said he’s absolutely against it. Anyway, I started the meds and haven’t told him. I started two weeks ago and feel fine so far. Anyway, that’s just one example.

My DD school are saying she has attention difficulties and just doesn’t get stuff in the classroom. He won’t hear it. He says she’s just a child and she’s fine. She’s 6. I said that clearly something isn’t right, why else would they be taking time out to have meetings with us ? He thinks it’s all bollocks. They’re not diagnosing her yet or putting her on any path, but if they do, I know he just won’t accept it.

Brother in laws finance opened up the other day that she had some mental health issues and was on meds and it really helped her etc. DH remarked how she was a ‘ keeper ‘ and how the hell did his brother end up with someone like that who was full of issues. She doesn’t have a great job, isn’t even that good looking and now this as well.

it’s like he categorises women like that- how good looking are you, how much money can you bring, how good are you at house stuff / mothering. If you fall short on those, it’s like you don’t have much worth to him.

is this the way many men think deep down and Judy don’t say it or is he really just horrible ?

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MrThorpeHazell · 06/04/2026 08:38

He's a shit. For once NAMALT is an accurate statement of the case.

dhandhisviews · 06/04/2026 08:38

@CutelittlepuppyI have done CBT and psychoanalytic therapy. I have done it for years- both. Most recently CBT, which I found patronising tbh. And also emotionally cold. I tried 3 different CBT therapists. I just feel like I’m over therapy. Honestly I’ve done it for years and I feel like I’ve done my time with it. I’ve also read so many books on therapy, CBT and otherwise. Maybe in the future I’ll feel like going back, but right now I just don’t. I’ve analysed the shit out of myself and I know why I struggle but it doesn’t change anything for me.

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Cutelittlepuppy · 06/04/2026 08:34

dhandhisviews · 06/04/2026 08:15

And to be fair to him, it’s not just women who get that sort of judgement - it’s also men. It’s like ‘ what do they bring to the table ‘. It just seems harsh but that’s why I sort of asked - do most men feel this way ?

and yes the reason I’ve never taken meds is exactly that. Ive heard they don’t really help long term. I’m desperate at the moment and decided to just take the risk and give it a go. Hopefully it will be ok. I’ve had a lot of talking therapy that I just didn’t find useful so I thought I would try this. I was really consumed by thoughts of death, illness and disasters tearing me apart from my children and I don’t want to live in that dark place anymore.

Try a different therapist and therapy type. Honestly for long term mental health it will support you better. I find that you need a good 'fit' of therapists to get anywhere and I personally am always more comfortable with more action focused cbt influenced therapy. My husband on the other hand has been seeing a person centered therapist long term and finds that very helpful.

MikeRafone · 06/04/2026 08:34

This whole idea of being against someone seeking medical help, it’s not his body or mind.

can you imagine if he broke his leg and you said to him, I’m against medical intervention & you’ll be on crutches and maybe a wheel chair - best leave the leg to feel itself. He would tell you not to be so ridiculous and then it’s totally different from using medical intervention for another illness. It’s not totally different and it’s one reason why 80% of suicice are males not females. Females are much more likely to seek medical help rather than the male attitude of ignoring the illnesses

GlovedhandsCecilia · 06/04/2026 08:33

hiyapalll · 06/04/2026 08:28

It’s really important to be careful about interpreting this kind of data. Correlation doesn’t equal causation. People who are prescribed SSRIs are already experiencing depression or anxiety, both of which are linked to a higher risk of suicide compared to the general population. So higher rates of suicide in people taking SSRIs doesn’t mean the medication is causing it.

There’s a large body of evidence showing that SSRIs can be effective for many people, particularly in reducing symptoms of depression and helping them function day to day (there would have to be or they wouldn’t be allowed to be prescribed). They’re not perfect, and they don’t work for everyone, but for some people they can be life-changing. I’ve seen it with my own eyes.

I'd read some of those inquest reports and then decide.

https://www.bmj.com/content/388/bmj.r67

There is great interest in playing down the risk of SSRIs because the type of treatments that are more likely to work are so expensive and many actions would require a general improvement in our quality of life as a society.

dhandhisviews · 06/04/2026 08:32

Because it’s always something ! I’ve had a bad neck and now lots of post nasal drip and my voice is really croaky. Now my lower back hurts too haha. It’s always something. But the important thing is that I realise that these are not symptoms of a terrible disease but just transient. My neck pain is gone now. It was really bad last week. My voice and throat is still a bit sore ( virus ) and lower back pain is just something I get sometimes and have had over many years.

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Myneighbourisanosyoldgit · 06/04/2026 08:32

FGS get rid of this idiot, your mental well being will improve no end and you may well find you won't need the anti depressants anymore.
Do it for your d if nothing else, she is learning this is normal in how men treat women.

Seeleyboo · 06/04/2026 08:32

Put this caveman back and 90% of all your MH issues will be reversed.

dhandhisviews · 06/04/2026 08:29

Shallysally · 06/04/2026 08:27

SSRI’s have their place. Discuss with your GP your concerns re the dark thoughts.
You maybe won’t need them in the long term but please seek support OP.

I have and they’ve prescribed them and I’m taking them. I’ve had them prescribed twice before at different points but this time is the first time I’ve actually taken them. It’s been two weeks and I haven’t felt worse so far to be fair. Maybe a bit more anxious around scanning myself for illnesses and worrying about it but it’s not extreme and I’m handling it ok. In fact, I’ve stopped myself from googling symptoms so that’s a good thing as I know I’ll just spiral anyway.

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hiyapalll · 06/04/2026 08:28

GlovedhandsCecilia · 06/04/2026 08:15

It’s really important to be careful about interpreting this kind of data. Correlation doesn’t equal causation. People who are prescribed SSRIs are already experiencing depression or anxiety, both of which are linked to a higher risk of suicide compared to the general population. So higher rates of suicide in people taking SSRIs doesn’t mean the medication is causing it.

There’s a large body of evidence showing that SSRIs can be effective for many people, particularly in reducing symptoms of depression and helping them function day to day (there would have to be or they wouldn’t be allowed to be prescribed). They’re not perfect, and they don’t work for everyone, but for some people they can be life-changing. I’ve seen it with my own eyes.

Shallysally · 06/04/2026 08:27

SSRI’s have their place. Discuss with your GP your concerns re the dark thoughts.
You maybe won’t need them in the long term but please seek support OP.

QuintadosMalvados · 06/04/2026 08:24

I'm torn on this.
On one hand, I do believe that the only unconditional love is from parents (and not always, sadly) and yes one should screen out those with obvious issues before committing.

On the other hand, he does sound completely unsupportive and a twat.

I wonder if OP's problems are linked to the fact that she's married to a cunt?

Shallysally · 06/04/2026 08:23

frozendaisy · 06/04/2026 08:02

So as a female you have to look good, bring in money, excel at housework and mothering and never have any health issues.

This is going to put at lot of pressure on your daughter. Have you pointed this out to him?

How does he judge men? Is he perfect according to his own standards?

This in spades. Also, do you want your daughter to have this influence from her father? She will grow up thinking that this is the norm and worry that she is less than her father’s view of how people should be and what they should achieve.

GlovedhandsCecilia · 06/04/2026 08:23

dhandhisviews · 06/04/2026 08:15

And to be fair to him, it’s not just women who get that sort of judgement - it’s also men. It’s like ‘ what do they bring to the table ‘. It just seems harsh but that’s why I sort of asked - do most men feel this way ?

and yes the reason I’ve never taken meds is exactly that. Ive heard they don’t really help long term. I’m desperate at the moment and decided to just take the risk and give it a go. Hopefully it will be ok. I’ve had a lot of talking therapy that I just didn’t find useful so I thought I would try this. I was really consumed by thoughts of death, illness and disasters tearing me apart from my children and I don’t want to live in that dark place anymore.

From what I've read, SSRIs are more likely to make thise dark thoughts much worse. What i found interesting is the reports on women with traumatic backgrounds and drug dependency who enter prison for the first time. They are often prescribed SSRIs for the first time and go on to self harm within weeks of being in prison on a short sentence for something like shoplifting.

These are women who have faced lots of trauma and abuse, as well as having a drug and/or alcohol dependency, and yet they never self harmed until they were on SSRIs.

The whole "what do you bring the table?" Is touted as wise advice for people seeking relationships. I do think it is problematic but I don't think that someone's sex changes how wrong or right it is.

dhandhisviews · 06/04/2026 08:17

@ThatCyanCatonly recently that I’ve sort of realised the full extent.

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juicelooseabootthishoose · 06/04/2026 08:16

its incredibly superior for someone with no mental health issues to state such a position on medication with no lived experience themselves. But even so, a decent man with this view would be offering support and asking their wife what else they can do to reassure you and help get you through this.

dhandhisviews · 06/04/2026 08:15

GlovedhandsCecilia · 06/04/2026 08:11

I am not for SSRIs. Research shows they don't work and they often make symptoms worse. There is a man who collates all the inquests of people who have committed violence against others or themselves after starting sertaline. I'll link it in a minute.

I'd also tell a loved one that I think it's unwise to start a LTR with anyone who has a serious mental illness. I think we normalise SMIs too much.

I also think we judge men by their assets as well as their souls. Who would partner with a man who shows signs of being a crap parent (oh actually many of you do) or poor provider (more people ensure this isnt the case)? If you started thread on here asking how you should screen a new date for long term potential, what things would people on here tell you to consider about him? Does he have a good job, own home, car? It's the same thing.

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And to be fair to him, it’s not just women who get that sort of judgement - it’s also men. It’s like ‘ what do they bring to the table ‘. It just seems harsh but that’s why I sort of asked - do most men feel this way ?

and yes the reason I’ve never taken meds is exactly that. Ive heard they don’t really help long term. I’m desperate at the moment and decided to just take the risk and give it a go. Hopefully it will be ok. I’ve had a lot of talking therapy that I just didn’t find useful so I thought I would try this. I was really consumed by thoughts of death, illness and disasters tearing me apart from my children and I don’t want to live in that dark place anymore.

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aWeeCornishPastie · 06/04/2026 08:15

He sounds awful

GlovedhandsCecilia · 06/04/2026 08:15

http://antidepaware.co.uk/contents/

ThatCyanCat · 06/04/2026 08:13

dhandhisviews · 06/04/2026 08:10

He didn’t seem like this to be fair.

the thing is, it’s like he has the same views of his grandparents generation, basically.

How did he not seem like it? When did it start to show?

GlovedhandsCecilia · 06/04/2026 08:11

I am not for SSRIs. Research shows they don't work and they often make symptoms worse. There is a man who collates all the inquests of people who have committed violence against others or themselves after starting sertaline. I'll link it in a minute.

I'd also tell a loved one that I think it's unwise to start a LTR with anyone who has a serious mental illness. I think we normalise SMIs too much.

I also think we judge men by their assets as well as their souls. Who would partner with a man who shows signs of being a crap parent (oh actually many of you do) or poor provider (more people ensure this isnt the case)? If you started thread on here asking how you should screen a new date for long term potential, what things would people on here tell you to consider about him? Does he have a good job, own home, car? It's the same thing.

dhandhisviews · 06/04/2026 08:10

TimeFlysWhenYoureHavingRum · 06/04/2026 08:08

He sounds utterly revolting. Why did you marry him? Was he always like this?
To answer your queston - yes unfortunately many men are like this but most are not.
The solution is to steer well clear of the pigs.

He didn’t seem like this to be fair.

the thing is, it’s like he has the same views of his grandparents generation, basically.

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ThePoetsWife · 06/04/2026 08:10

No wonder your mental health isn’t great living with this ignorant pig

dhandhisviews · 06/04/2026 08:08

TestingTestingWonTooFree · 06/04/2026 08:03

How’s his brother? Less of a pig? Does he respect him?

I don’t think his brother is like him at all. He sounds supportive of his finance and like he wants to help her and doesn’t see her value as a tick box thing. That’s my impression.

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TimeFlysWhenYoureHavingRum · 06/04/2026 08:08

He sounds utterly revolting. Why did you marry him? Was he always like this?
To answer your queston - yes unfortunately many men are like this but most are not.
The solution is to steer well clear of the pigs.

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