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My DH is just a bit of a Neanderthal and it’s frustrating or am I the one who’s in the wrong ?

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dhandhisviews · 06/04/2026 07:53

It’s a bunch of things really. Mental health for example- I’ve struggled for a long time off and on- especially after I had babies, but he never really acknowledged it and is 100 percent against medication. I’ve never taken meds before for it. Recently I’ve really been struggling from health anxiety around myself and my kids and have been in a state. I don’t really talk to him about it ( or anyone ) as he doesn’t get it. Fine, some people just don’t. I did open up one night and told him I was struggling a lot and I was finally considering meds. He said I’ll be a zombie and won’t be able to look after my kids etc.

I explained that it really helps some people and he just said he’s absolutely against it. Anyway, I started the meds and haven’t told him. I started two weeks ago and feel fine so far. Anyway, that’s just one example.

My DD school are saying she has attention difficulties and just doesn’t get stuff in the classroom. He won’t hear it. He says she’s just a child and she’s fine. She’s 6. I said that clearly something isn’t right, why else would they be taking time out to have meetings with us ? He thinks it’s all bollocks. They’re not diagnosing her yet or putting her on any path, but if they do, I know he just won’t accept it.

Brother in laws finance opened up the other day that she had some mental health issues and was on meds and it really helped her etc. DH remarked how she was a ‘ keeper ‘ and how the hell did his brother end up with someone like that who was full of issues. She doesn’t have a great job, isn’t even that good looking and now this as well.

it’s like he categorises women like that- how good looking are you, how much money can you bring, how good are you at house stuff / mothering. If you fall short on those, it’s like you don’t have much worth to him.

is this the way many men think deep down and Judy don’t say it or is he really just horrible ?

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Goatsarebest · 06/04/2026 09:06

dhandhisviews · 06/04/2026 08:41

My dad has the same attitude. Some people just do not understand mental health at all.

one of my friends killed himself a few years ago. He suffered from depression for years. He was such a fighter but eventually, he couldn’t fight anymore. I told my dad and my dad said how selfish it was and how many people he knows who have cancer and would wish for another day but don’t get that choice.

a lot of people really just don’t understand it at all. I’m sad my friend is gone but I understand why he’s gone and I don’t think he was selfish. He tried very very hard for many years.

I think there are numerous traumatic or life limiting situations and events that people don't understand until they experience it. For example, a terminal diagnosis, death of a child, victim of violent crime, surviving major accidents when others didn't, and many more. Severe mental health issues would come within this. You can't really understand it unless you have been there.
So maybe you can refrain the situation to having no expectations that he will understand your issues, because how can he. Once you've accepted he, and your Dad and anyone else who doesn't, can not understand where you are with your MH, and you have no expectations that they ever will, you are liberated to seek help from those that can help you and do understand where you are and the challenges you face.
Though empathy and support can be given by a partner without them really understanding the lived experiences of their partner. That's a reasonable expectation from your life partner, which you don't seem to be getting. That would be more of an issue for me than them truly understanding what I was experiencing.

Pumpkinmagic · 06/04/2026 09:05

He sounds like a complete knob.

PaddingtonsMarmaladeSandwich · 06/04/2026 09:04

Gloved hands Cecilia
I am not for SSRIs. Research shows they don't work and they often make symptoms worse. There is a man who collates all the inquests of people who have committed violence against others or themselves after starting sertaline.

The above quote is an utter load of crap.

Antidepressants don’t work for everyone but are helpful to many.

As for making people violent - that opinion is absolutely unhinged.

PinterandPirandello · 06/04/2026 09:04

Anti anxiety and anti depressants can truly be life changing. They take about 6-8 weeks to make a difference and there can be unpleasant side effects in the initial stages including heightened anxiety. However, like everyone else has said, you’d probably have better mental health without your ‘d’h. You’re probably doing everything anyway so what have you got to lose by separating?

Badgerstriper · 06/04/2026 09:03

Hi OP. I just wanted to wish you well. As another poster has stated above, SSRIs do have their place and have helped countless people. I suffered with PND and then health anxiety. It was pretty dark for a good while. I was prescribed SSRIs and once they’d properly kicked in (maybe 6 weeks in?) they cleared my mind enough to make a plan of action for the other things I could do to support myself getting better.
For me that looked like talking therapy and exercise. Those two things then did the bulk of the work but I can’t overemphasise that the drugs got me to a point where I had the head space to take action.
I see the drugs now (and I came off them some years ago) as something that came just in time and made space for me to look after myself and my babies. If I was in the same position again I’d do the same thing, I have no doubt on that point.
Im sure some people do have worsening symptoms on them, but surely all medicines have that, and the GP is the person to ask about any concerns on that front.
Your husbands view that you’ll become a zombie is probably the furthest thing from the truth. As you feel better with the SSRIs and any other positive self care steps you take, you’ll probably be a more present parent with more energy and motivation to be involved in you DCs lives (at least that’s what it was like for me)
Bottom line is that this is YOUR health, not his or your family’s, and so you’re the only one who gets to decide what choices you make.
I hope you start to feel better soon x

AgnesX · 06/04/2026 09:03

dhandhisviews · 06/04/2026 08:52

I think he thinks he brings quite a lot to the table because he makes good money, is good looking and doesn’t have health issues.

But he's not a very nice human being it seems. Shame that doesn't count for anything.

teawamutu · 06/04/2026 09:01

OP, I've never met you but I know you can do better than this misogynistic cunt.

Alone forever would be better than this.

If not for you, think ahead to your daughter's choice of future partner. This is currently her standard and frame of reference. Do you want your life for her?

BlackRowan · 06/04/2026 09:00

no that’s not how all men think
he’s just a bit of a dick

dhandhisviews · 06/04/2026 09:00

I think I have adhd ! I know that’s what everyone is saying nowadays but I really think I have it. I’ve done the pre assessment at the GP and they said they’re refer me but it will take two years so I left it. But I think it’s an issue for me for sure. My DH thinks I’m being ridiculous about this too and that I’m just a bit disorganised and have my ‘ head up my arse ‘.. LOL you gotta laugh to you cry.

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Barbarella73 · 06/04/2026 08:59

GlovedhandsCecilia · 06/04/2026 08:33

I'd read some of those inquest reports and then decide.

https://www.bmj.com/content/388/bmj.r67

There is great interest in playing down the risk of SSRIs because the type of treatments that are more likely to work are so expensive and many actions would require a general improvement in our quality of life as a society.

This article says that a coroner questions (following a suicide) whether enough information is conveyed about the possible side effects of taking SSRIs. I’m not sure how this is helpful here - you’re sidestepping the response to your other post which pointed out that people taking SSRIs can have suicidal ideation prior to being prescribed the medication. Suicide is, tragically, sometimes a side effect of poor mental health. Can you provide evidence that categorically shows SSRIs cause suicide, rather than underlying poor mental health? If not, these links to woolly articles are pointless. As a pp says above, correlation is not causation.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 06/04/2026 08:59

I would be explaining to him that, sadly, he is not a "keeper" due to his sexist and ablist views.

You'll be happier without him.

User01020304 · 06/04/2026 08:57

Have you considered also that you may be ND? Given what you’ve said about your DD also I think it’s worth considering.

Sugarsugarcane · 06/04/2026 08:56

dhandhisviews · 06/04/2026 08:15

And to be fair to him, it’s not just women who get that sort of judgement - it’s also men. It’s like ‘ what do they bring to the table ‘. It just seems harsh but that’s why I sort of asked - do most men feel this way ?

and yes the reason I’ve never taken meds is exactly that. Ive heard they don’t really help long term. I’m desperate at the moment and decided to just take the risk and give it a go. Hopefully it will be ok. I’ve had a lot of talking therapy that I just didn’t find useful so I thought I would try this. I was really consumed by thoughts of death, illness and disasters tearing me apart from my children and I don’t want to live in that dark place anymore.

have you looked into OCD OP? Those intrusive thoughts need addressing
you can self refer for therapy on the NHS alongside meds
you mentioned that you have tried talking therapy but please consider that there is a lot of variety in talking therapies, from the different character / education etc of the therapist to the mode of therapy that they deliver, it’s really worth trying a different approach
also to say, if your daughter is being flagged as potentially having some neuro divergence I’d suggest it’s worth looking at traits that you and / or your husband have as it’s likely at least one of you may also be ND, this might also link to your high levels of anxiety and intrusive thoughts, or it may not! But definitely worth considering I would say
all in all, please for your own sake and that of your child, put your needs on the table and address them, it would be awfully sad to live your life on someone else’s terms

LeebLeefuhLurve · 06/04/2026 08:55

To him, women are fuckable domestic appliances and he wants the 'high end' brand that won't malfunction (i.e., is she pretty, wealthy and healthy).

He sounds absolutely rancid, how you tolerate living alongside him, I don't know. His attitude will start effecting your daughter, sooner or later.

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 06/04/2026 08:55

dhandhisviews · 06/04/2026 08:52

I think he thinks he brings quite a lot to the table because he makes good money, is good looking and doesn’t have health issues.

But he’s a horrible person so none of this matters.

It doesn’t make a difference whether he’s got a good job or is good looking if his attitude and personality is making you miserable and is denying you and your daughter the help and support you need.

pictoosh · 06/04/2026 08:55

He is ignorant, arrogant, just bloody awful...and he's proud of it.

Don't think there's much you can do. He won't be educated by you so what is there? Listen to his crap and watch him deny you both appropriate support, or accept you're not compatible and initiate a split.
Scary stuff, I know. I sympathise with you enormously. He won't see the light I'm afraid. Not ever.
Best of luck. Poor you. X

katepilar · 06/04/2026 08:52

His attitude is very unattractive.
Hope you are feeling better now with the medication.

dhandhisviews · 06/04/2026 08:52

I think he thinks he brings quite a lot to the table because he makes good money, is good looking and doesn’t have health issues.

OP posts:
jellyfish798 · 06/04/2026 08:51

dhandhisviews · 06/04/2026 07:53

It’s a bunch of things really. Mental health for example- I’ve struggled for a long time off and on- especially after I had babies, but he never really acknowledged it and is 100 percent against medication. I’ve never taken meds before for it. Recently I’ve really been struggling from health anxiety around myself and my kids and have been in a state. I don’t really talk to him about it ( or anyone ) as he doesn’t get it. Fine, some people just don’t. I did open up one night and told him I was struggling a lot and I was finally considering meds. He said I’ll be a zombie and won’t be able to look after my kids etc.

I explained that it really helps some people and he just said he’s absolutely against it. Anyway, I started the meds and haven’t told him. I started two weeks ago and feel fine so far. Anyway, that’s just one example.

My DD school are saying she has attention difficulties and just doesn’t get stuff in the classroom. He won’t hear it. He says she’s just a child and she’s fine. She’s 6. I said that clearly something isn’t right, why else would they be taking time out to have meetings with us ? He thinks it’s all bollocks. They’re not diagnosing her yet or putting her on any path, but if they do, I know he just won’t accept it.

Brother in laws finance opened up the other day that she had some mental health issues and was on meds and it really helped her etc. DH remarked how she was a ‘ keeper ‘ and how the hell did his brother end up with someone like that who was full of issues. She doesn’t have a great job, isn’t even that good looking and now this as well.

it’s like he categorises women like that- how good looking are you, how much money can you bring, how good are you at house stuff / mothering. If you fall short on those, it’s like you don’t have much worth to him.

is this the way many men think deep down and Judy don’t say it or is he really just horrible ?

How he spoke about the brother in law's fiancée is outrageous, like she's a piece of meat.
He sounds very judgemental and emotionally immature, unable to deal with anything that's not his definition of perfect.
This man won't have your back in tough times by the sounds of it. If your mental health struggles or that of your DC, I don't think he'd be able to handle it. He'll pass off his ignorance and inability to cope with meaningless statements like 'it is what it is' or just deny the problems exist. He doesn't sound like he has respect for professionals or others opinions either, for example not wanting to listen to the school's opinions on DC's needs.

dhandhisviews · 06/04/2026 08:51

CocoaTea · 06/04/2026 08:48

@dhandhisviews

When I saw the thread title I thought “neanderthal” was an exaggeration but it turns out that you are right. Yikes.

Have you spoken to him about his views in a wider context? Does he think people receiving chemo for
cancer are weaker / less than?

Have you had a neutral conversation about what he sees his value add to the family as being? Since yours is looks, mothering and never needing mental health support.

I’d be curious to probe his thought processes. Personally I’d find his thinking very unattractive but I’d still want to draw him out on his ridiculous views before setting him straight.

Well I was recently made redundant and I don’t bring in any money at the moment. I’m also not the best housewife and my DD is clearly struggling at school and my youngest is a little terror. I also don’t always want to have sex and I clearly have health and mental health issues. So I’m guessing he thinks he got a bad deal with me? I don’t know. That’s how I feel he thinks of me and what I’m bringing to the table !

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WTAFIsWrongWithPeople · 06/04/2026 08:50

I was really consumed by thoughts of death, illness and disasters tearing me apart from my children and I don’t want to live in that dark place anymore.

Makes perfect sense given who your children would be left with.

CocoaTea · 06/04/2026 08:48

@dhandhisviews

When I saw the thread title I thought “neanderthal” was an exaggeration but it turns out that you are right. Yikes.

Have you spoken to him about his views in a wider context? Does he think people receiving chemo for
cancer are weaker / less than?

Have you had a neutral conversation about what he sees his value add to the family as being? Since yours is looks, mothering and never needing mental health support.

I’d be curious to probe his thought processes. Personally I’d find his thinking very unattractive but I’d still want to draw him out on his ridiculous views before setting him straight.

MrsVBS · 06/04/2026 08:46

I feel for you being married to such a man, get your finances in order, speak to a solicitor and get out of there.

u3ername · 06/04/2026 08:43

This (attached screenshot) was on my ig feed just before I read your post!
Im sorry, op. Sadly a lot of this is still very relevant.

My DH is just a bit of a Neanderthal and it’s frustrating or am I the one who’s in the wrong ?
dhandhisviews · 06/04/2026 08:41

MikeRafone · 06/04/2026 08:34

This whole idea of being against someone seeking medical help, it’s not his body or mind.

can you imagine if he broke his leg and you said to him, I’m against medical intervention & you’ll be on crutches and maybe a wheel chair - best leave the leg to feel itself. He would tell you not to be so ridiculous and then it’s totally different from using medical intervention for another illness. It’s not totally different and it’s one reason why 80% of suicice are males not females. Females are much more likely to seek medical help rather than the male attitude of ignoring the illnesses

My dad has the same attitude. Some people just do not understand mental health at all.

one of my friends killed himself a few years ago. He suffered from depression for years. He was such a fighter but eventually, he couldn’t fight anymore. I told my dad and my dad said how selfish it was and how many people he knows who have cancer and would wish for another day but don’t get that choice.

a lot of people really just don’t understand it at all. I’m sad my friend is gone but I understand why he’s gone and I don’t think he was selfish. He tried very very hard for many years.

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