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Confusedgal0001 · 05/04/2026 00:08

Me and my dp are in such a rollercoster relationship. When its good, its perfect. When we disagree. We disagree hard and it ends in nasty arguments. He has gotten more nasty and its like "anything goes" and he justifies it by saying I have wound him up. He never used to be like this but says its because I chipped away at him. Saying that, I wasnt the easiest at the start I did gaslight, and cause many arguments and broke up with him to get him to chase me to win me over. That was years ago. I am not that person. Now he says when I accuse him of stuff or nag him he thinks "not this shit and he shuts down". Ive told him it isnt helpful and he says thats my own doing.

After giving birth to our daughter and brining her home. I was floored with the emotion I felt. The love for her was and is something else. I didnt know I could love this much. I remember looking at her and burst out crying and saying to him "we will always be together for the sake of our girl, she deserves the best we need to promise that". A few weeks later, I asked him. What would happen if we broke up with our daughter. Would we coparent. Be on good terms, etc. He was immediately offended. He shut down got nasty. Telling me he "didnt know". I was gobsmacked, and demanded how he couldn't day he would always be there for her. He said he wants to say that but he cant predict an unknown future. He then said he doesnt want to think about breaking up and to ask that question is a red flag. I have continued asking, every few weeks, it has never say right.

Sometimes he will say, we would coparent if on good terms, then he will say he doesnt know how much he would see our baby as he doesnt have all the details (ie where I would be living. Etc)

Each time I get annoyed he tells me I am creating this problem and he doesnt ever want to split up. He said if we were splitting up we would discuss everything and that would include our daughter hut right now he cant give me an answer. I said why cant he said he would move mountains and do anything. He said he would do what needed to be done, what was the right thing for our daughter. He then says I have issues for talking about all of this and refuses to agree anything with me!! Is this not a red flag? I can honestly say that no matter what happens with us, I will always be our baby's mum and I ain't going anywhere. I will be in her life until I die. Why cant he say same?!

Thanks

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Sugarsugarcane · 06/04/2026 11:46

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DinosaurBlue · 06/04/2026 11:45

Confusedgal0001 · 06/04/2026 11:38

He wasnt always nasty. He said 2/3 years ago that I am going to chip away until nothing is left. And now he is nasty. He says he is angry he needs to be better and pit work in when he wakes up positive and starts his day with thinking up positive things. He says I start my day negatively and when something goes wrong my go to is going in a mood or blame. He says its my issues that have caused all of this and he thinks I should work twice as hard to get it back to a nice place. He says he has done his bit and if I continue arguing I will get his nasty side. But that isnt right

Have you tried, I don’t know, to stop looking for reasons to argue and blame and get stroppy?

Confusedgal0001 · 06/04/2026 11:38

EverestMilton · 06/04/2026 11:01

The most important thing in a relationship is not love, it's respect. You might not even like each other at times but even in the middle of arguments if there is respect then you can work through it. Your problem is that he has shown that he doesn't respect you. You argue, the gloves come off and anything nasty goes, because he was 'wound up'. This is not healthy. You admit your relationship was a rollercoaster and then you bought a baby into the mix. Now even if he's doing the 'right' things, proposing etc. You don't believe it's for the long term. Why would you the track history is chaotic. It's not surprising you are insecure. So you needle, obsess and question for Plan B, what happens if he leaves you? You were also the girl who cried wolf, left him so he'd chase you to get you back. That gave you power, made you feel wanted.... Now you have the baby, perhaps you feel that tactic won't work in your favor anymore....not saying in any way I agree with the tactic but perhaps you might feel more insecure that you have lost your (extremely toxic by the way) weapon in your relationship you previously relied on.

In addition, when you have a baby, you get absolutely walloped with the love hormones. Of course you feel you would move mountains for your perfect, precious child. It's natures way of stopping us abandoning them to the wolves.... He is not jacked up on oxytocin so he's a bit more measured and it doesn't sound like he's being a bad father. He sounds fairly normal in his reactions, do what needs to be done. But he isn't laying down prostrate at the baby alter as you'd like him to?

The key issue is the foundations of your relationship are shite.... If you keep pushing for a Plan B scenario it a) might actually happen of b) he'll just tell you what he thinks you want to hear. It's not really helping anyone? Marrying him won't be a magic cure where you will suddenly have a better relationship or feel more secure either.....it might protect you more financially depending on your circumstance. However with his history of nastiness he sounds the sort to be a complete arsehole to divorce...I'd hold fire on the wedding if I were you.
I think you need to get back to the root cause of your issues which is respect. Respect from him and respect for yourself. I would suggest some therapy by yourself and pick it though. Why did you ever accept someone treating you that nasty way or making you feel insecure in the first place? I also think you need to work on yourself, get back to work, get financially independent, get friends and hobbies. Make yourself happy.

He wasnt always nasty. He said 2/3 years ago that I am going to chip away until nothing is left. And now he is nasty. He says he is angry he needs to be better and pit work in when he wakes up positive and starts his day with thinking up positive things. He says I start my day negatively and when something goes wrong my go to is going in a mood or blame. He says its my issues that have caused all of this and he thinks I should work twice as hard to get it back to a nice place. He says he has done his bit and if I continue arguing I will get his nasty side. But that isnt right

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EverestMilton · 06/04/2026 11:01

The most important thing in a relationship is not love, it's respect. You might not even like each other at times but even in the middle of arguments if there is respect then you can work through it. Your problem is that he has shown that he doesn't respect you. You argue, the gloves come off and anything nasty goes, because he was 'wound up'. This is not healthy. You admit your relationship was a rollercoaster and then you bought a baby into the mix. Now even if he's doing the 'right' things, proposing etc. You don't believe it's for the long term. Why would you the track history is chaotic. It's not surprising you are insecure. So you needle, obsess and question for Plan B, what happens if he leaves you? You were also the girl who cried wolf, left him so he'd chase you to get you back. That gave you power, made you feel wanted.... Now you have the baby, perhaps you feel that tactic won't work in your favor anymore....not saying in any way I agree with the tactic but perhaps you might feel more insecure that you have lost your (extremely toxic by the way) weapon in your relationship you previously relied on.

In addition, when you have a baby, you get absolutely walloped with the love hormones. Of course you feel you would move mountains for your perfect, precious child. It's natures way of stopping us abandoning them to the wolves.... He is not jacked up on oxytocin so he's a bit more measured and it doesn't sound like he's being a bad father. He sounds fairly normal in his reactions, do what needs to be done. But he isn't laying down prostrate at the baby alter as you'd like him to?

The key issue is the foundations of your relationship are shite.... If you keep pushing for a Plan B scenario it a) might actually happen of b) he'll just tell you what he thinks you want to hear. It's not really helping anyone? Marrying him won't be a magic cure where you will suddenly have a better relationship or feel more secure either.....it might protect you more financially depending on your circumstance. However with his history of nastiness he sounds the sort to be a complete arsehole to divorce...I'd hold fire on the wedding if I were you.
I think you need to get back to the root cause of your issues which is respect. Respect from him and respect for yourself. I would suggest some therapy by yourself and pick it though. Why did you ever accept someone treating you that nasty way or making you feel insecure in the first place? I also think you need to work on yourself, get back to work, get financially independent, get friends and hobbies. Make yourself happy.

BollyMolly · 06/04/2026 10:14

You sound like bloody hard work and why you’re doing to him is emotional abuse. I hope he manages to find a life free from this kind of dysfunction.

StationJack · 06/04/2026 10:11

Why is everyone sticking up for him?
Because you come across as being unhinged.

OttersOnAPlane · 06/04/2026 10:09

Everyone agrees he shouldn't have given you "a hard tap on the leg" as you described it.

You shouldn't be manipulative, goading, mendacious, escalate drama, and generally behave like a toxic nightmare.

You took 10 minutes to leave the house when he was waiting in the car and in a big hurry. You were deliberately winding him up across the day. You say he "called you a bitch in front of your baby" when actually she was fast asleep in the back.

This is a deeply messed up dynamic. Get some therapy to resolve your issues or your poor daughter will be raised in a poisonous environment.

Orangemintcream · 06/04/2026 10:08

Your relationship is an utter mess.

The pair of you are abusive - you mentally and emotionally and him physically by the sound of it.

What a disgusting example for your child. Split up and get some serious therapy to sort yourself out.

Put your child first.

NotMajorTom · 06/04/2026 10:03

Confusedgal0001 · 06/04/2026 09:47

Why is everyone sticking up for him? I was abusive years ago and changed my behaviour. Ive never laid hands on him again or destroy anything. So he can hit me whenever hes annoyed? All because of "yeah but u hit him 4 years ago". Yeah I deserve everything I get for life with all ur logics

Again?
so you hit him too?

DinosaurBlue · 06/04/2026 10:01

Confusedgal0001 · 06/04/2026 09:47

Why is everyone sticking up for him? I was abusive years ago and changed my behaviour. Ive never laid hands on him again or destroy anything. So he can hit me whenever hes annoyed? All because of "yeah but u hit him 4 years ago". Yeah I deserve everything I get for life with all ur logics

Four years isn’t a long time. In that time you have cheated, cut up all clothes, constantly broke up with him to test him and by your own admission, gaslit him.

He gave you a “hard tap” in the car the other day when you were causing yet another argument. He is absolutely in the wrong for hitting you. No one should lay their hands on anyone, no matter the circumstances. But this isn’t a relationship where you are the innocent victim. You are just as toxic and in fact, worse because you keep looking for ways to cause more drama.

Confusedgal0001 · 06/04/2026 09:47

Why is everyone sticking up for him? I was abusive years ago and changed my behaviour. Ive never laid hands on him again or destroy anything. So he can hit me whenever hes annoyed? All because of "yeah but u hit him 4 years ago". Yeah I deserve everything I get for life with all ur logics

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DinosaurBlue · 06/04/2026 08:44

Confusedgal0001 · 05/04/2026 12:13

How about if I told everyone I am the other poster that asked if he was abusive.

I am happy taking responsibility but he says its all me and his actions are reactions to me

FUCKING HELL.

So not only do you badger on about him leaving you, you have treated him horribly in the past.

Yet despite all of that, he stays with you.

You need to count your lucky stars but I do hope the two of you split - an incredibly toxic relationship that you have created. This really isn’t a good example for your daughter.

GiraffesKooalassssy7y · 06/04/2026 02:53

You must have some mental health issues being exacerbated by post partum. I say this kindly. You need to seek help. The things you are asking and keep badgering with are not normal.

The post partum hormones are no joke. They are exacerbating whatever issues you had. Some antidepressants might help.

Woodfiresareamazing · 06/04/2026 02:39

Confusedgal0001 · 05/04/2026 12:35

Yes not great but this was years ago I am different.

What is the time line of your relationship? I'm sure in one of your updates you said you'd been together 4 years, which really isn't very long.

Especially given that in the beginning you lied repeatedly about being single, and gaslit him multiple times when he expressed doubts about your situation.

He must find it hard to trust someone who has treated him so badly...

Confusedgal0001 · 05/04/2026 23:34

booksareforlife · 05/04/2026 21:49

Would you feel better if he did come to you with a plan?

Surely it's so much worse if he comes to you and says
"Oh actually i've thought about our breakup alot, i'd want our daughter 50/50 every Sunday through Wednesday, My plan is to hire a nanny for two of the days, the other one i'll ask my mom to watch her. From the age of 4 i'll put her in ballet lessons on my time of course."

You sound a bit unhinged and you're just going to drive him away. The more you question it the more you'll plant the idea of a breakup in his head.

Actually youre right. That would worry me.

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booksareforlife · 05/04/2026 21:49

Would you feel better if he did come to you with a plan?

Surely it's so much worse if he comes to you and says
"Oh actually i've thought about our breakup alot, i'd want our daughter 50/50 every Sunday through Wednesday, My plan is to hire a nanny for two of the days, the other one i'll ask my mom to watch her. From the age of 4 i'll put her in ballet lessons on my time of course."

You sound a bit unhinged and you're just going to drive him away. The more you question it the more you'll plant the idea of a breakup in his head.

DallazMajor · 05/04/2026 17:40

So you’re insecure cause you are not a trustworthy person yourself. Pretty standard.

I know on the other thread you said he hit you and asked if he were abusive. I’m not condoning his action but it sounds like you are emotionally abusive and are pushing the boundaries.

tbh you sound completely fucked up. You need to stop being a dick and sort yourself out.

Evaka · 05/04/2026 16:48

Hi OP. The last thing you need is AIBU on Mumsnet over a long long weekend to help solve your relationship issues.

You sound to be very confused and troubled. Can you speak to your GP and explain some of what you've described here, and in the meantime forget this thread and try to enjoy time with your baby.

Boomer55 · 05/04/2026 16:30

You seem to be the problem. Stop looking for dramas.

SnowflakeSmasher86 · 05/04/2026 16:24

i commented on your other thread but tbh it’s stupid starting a new thread about one aspect of your relationship when the whole thing is so tainted that any one single interaction is irrelevant. I was one of the few posters at the time to lay more blame at his door for slapping you than at yours for being nasty and a general nightmare, but based solely on the info in this thread you sound like the bigger problem.

Either way, you build this relationship on quicksand, lying and gaslighting, and now it’s crumbling. Get out, build two safe and secure, calm and nurturing homes for your baby and spend some time on and by yourself before you go rushing into another shitshow of a relationship.

Woodfiresareamazing · 05/04/2026 15:24

FateAmenableToChange · 05/04/2026 15:16

Stop asking him that question, you already know he's invested, its your anxiety driving this and no answer he gives will resolve that. The real question is will I be left alone raising this bay while he disappears. A not uncommon fear for any new mum, but a fear for a therapist, not to him after an argument.

Also own your own behaviour and the consequences of that. You gaslit him from the beginning about the relationship. So what might look like him being evasive could actually be a man who already learned that you are not trustworthy. Breaking trust like that does not come without consequence and it can take a very long time to rebuild trust.

Still, what he is doing making his behaviour your fault is not ok either. If he can't take responsibility for his behaviour, the relationship wont last.

But basically marrying into all this without addressing the issues will make it all worse. You need to stop outsourcing your anxiety to him, and start to get clear if this is a man who can be better, or if he will never be accountable for his actions. Because right now you cant tell the difference. Ideally you both need counselling, seperately and together.

Great post.

OP has been given a lot of good advice on here, but sadly for her daughter I don't think she's going to.

FateAmenableToChange · 05/04/2026 15:16

Stop asking him that question, you already know he's invested, its your anxiety driving this and no answer he gives will resolve that. The real question is will I be left alone raising this bay while he disappears. A not uncommon fear for any new mum, but a fear for a therapist, not to him after an argument.

Also own your own behaviour and the consequences of that. You gaslit him from the beginning about the relationship. So what might look like him being evasive could actually be a man who already learned that you are not trustworthy. Breaking trust like that does not come without consequence and it can take a very long time to rebuild trust.

Still, what he is doing making his behaviour your fault is not ok either. If he can't take responsibility for his behaviour, the relationship wont last.

But basically marrying into all this without addressing the issues will make it all worse. You need to stop outsourcing your anxiety to him, and start to get clear if this is a man who can be better, or if he will never be accountable for his actions. Because right now you cant tell the difference. Ideally you both need counselling, seperately and together.

amber763 · 05/04/2026 15:02

Book yourself into some kind of therapy immediately. Your behavior is the problem here.

Ponderingwindow · 05/04/2026 14:53

As for the logistics of the inevitable breakup of this toxic relationship, he is absolutely correct that his degree of parenting will be determined by proximity. If he is a savvy father and wants to be an involved parent, he will go to court to block you from moving away with your shared child.

If the two of you want to be active coparents, you need to agree on a city and both live there.

Wishimaywishimight · 05/04/2026 14:40

Stop badgering him, you are being a pain in the arse!