AIBU to be horrified by Charles and Camilla visiting the US?

Don't I?

Or she might say 'I totally understand, he was a moron'

Maybe the royals will be issuing an apology to the orange one and offering an explanation, who knows? And yes, plenty of significant sex offending men in the US who need to be brought to account re the Epstein files😐

But the occasion isn’t about Trump, is it? It’s about the US’s 250th “birthday.”

If your sister is having a landmark birthday and you skip the party because you can’t stand the guy she’s dating, it’s all well and good to claim, “I didn’t skip your party because of you! I skipped your party because I can’t stand your current boyfriend!” But long after the boyfriend has been tossed on the rubbish heap of history, your sister is always going to remember that you blew off her big day because your animosity towards her boyfriend outweighed your affection for her.

I know, production has been moving abroad for decades, I am just saying at this point in time , I wouldn’t move production to India , your firm has .It’s not as if Trump hasn’t spelt out he is very unhappy with things like the carry trade and wants to see push back which there now is.

just pointing out that there is policy here and something companies have to think about, many have moved from Germany to the USA for example and these moves are often incredibly quick.

LOL, Britain subjugated the globe to the point that “the sun never set on the British Empire,” but you don’t see us vowing to NEVER forget and stew in our historical grievances.

It would simply be a 'fuck you Trump' imho.
We really like you too.
A lot of us see no need or purpose for the royal family.

If they just didn’t go? Nothing. If it came out that it was floated as a possibility and they refused to go because Trump was the president? I’d read that as “FUCK YOU FOREVER, AMERICA” and be pissed off. The relationship - good or bad - between the two countries existed before Trump and will exist after Trump, and it would be hugely shortsighted to disregard decades of close alliance over one man who’ll be out of office in a few years and probably dead in a few more.

What you guys - sorry, “you lot” - on Mumsnet never seem to understand is that Americans, by and large, really like the British. We had each other’s backs in WWII, which is not as far in the distant past as it may seem when millions of children of WWII veterans are still alive. You gave us a lot of our artistic culture and pop culture. We love listening to your accents. We flew our flags at half-mast when the Queen died and we woke up at insane hours to watch your royal weddings live. We don’t do that for anybody else. You’re like the big brother who used to pick on us, but now we’ve grown up and we think you’re awesome, even when you get on our nerves. The reason the phrase “special relationship” stuck is because it resonated.

Elizabeth II always understood this, and fortunately, Charles does too.

The move to India and shutting down of operations in the US has already happened/ is happening. Trump is not good for US economy whatever he himself is saying.

Indeed. Trump will pull out if NATO on this and claim Greenland.
He knows Europe won’t/csn’t go to war with the US over it

You’re being ridiculous. But I’m not surprised, based on the other threads about the States.

I personally wouldn’t be moving anything to India in this situation. Trump doesn’t always tell the truth but he’s been consistent in his messaging to American companies and many foreign firms are already moving production to America.

Well, in fairness, @LittleTown is not wrong.

Exactly this! 😂

Maybe not China, but very much moving to India. Definitely out of the US.

This is a good example of soft diplomacy. Yes of course they are going at the request of the government (did you think they woke up one morning and decided to pop over the Atlantic for the lolz?), and the trip will have been planned way in advance. But particularly in the present circs it’s a good way of maintaining a form of relationship but at a distance from the official UK government. Helps keep the seat warm in terms of the relationship between the two countries.

It’s early days, they aren’t moving to China which is what was happening and both Canada and Mexico have a Trump problem. I am not saying it’s going to work but what really will not work for the USA is if it can’t roll over it’s debt. Then all the US global firms are in trouble.

Russia has transformed it’s industrial base by being at war and the USA is planning on doing the same in my opinion. This isn’t over in 2 to 3 weeks.

Not sure the re industrialisation is working. I work for a US global firm who are a closing down operations in the US on a big scale and moving them to Canada and Mexico.

I think they have to go unfortunately, my opinion the USA is acting far more strategically than we are reckoning. All to do with keeping the USA’s massive debts rolling over. Trump isn’t in a hurry to sort this out if he gets more customers for American oil and gas at a higher price. Trump also wants to re industrialise his country so this situation is perfect for that to happen. It really is American first.

Well that didnt take long, did it!! 🤨

Sounds like you re talking about a toddler.

Pulling out the visit probably won't help, Trumps ego is driving some of this madness, he needs to feel big and like he is a strong man.

At the moment he is after any deal however bad (which he can claim as a success) which gives him an excuse not to put troops on the ground. Making the threshold for the type/concessions of deal higher by snubbing him doesn't help.

And the world will NEVER forget the USs behaviour and acquiescence during Trump's premiership.

It smacks of the Duke of Windsor and Wallis visiting with Hitler imo. Looks like theyre trying to appease the orange twit. They should steer well clear of Trump

Oh I realise this, I’m not naïve, I just meant how we’re allowed to condone some countries for their actions, but not others because it would be too politically or financially inconvenient for us. It’s all a farce.