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Unreliable daughter - do I put my foot down?

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AyiaNanna · 04/04/2026 18:44

As much as I’ve been very excited for grandchildren I have always made it clear that I’m not prepared to do any childcare. She only returned to work last week and already she’s asked me to cover next week. Supposedly she’s only just found out that the nursery is closed.

Should I agree or am I opening up the floodgates and encouraging yet more requests!

Do I say no and let her sort herself out?

OP posts:
LostInTheDream · 04/04/2026 21:08

Is nursery really closed all week? I think I'd ask a question about what kind of schedule this nursery operates on. I've only ever used ones that are open 51 weeks (closed on BH's) or term time.

I would offer a couple of days of you are able, it's the kind thing to do. There is a huge difference between offering in a pickle or the odd evening/weekend and doing this on a regular arrangement. There are times where it is a pickle, fewer people have reciprocal arrangements with friends, there isn't much as hoc paid childcare and limited annual leave.

I would also say, with relationships with the GC, you get out what you put in. My PIL have been increasingly hands off (behaviour absolutely not the reason) and it's sad because they barely know them. It's not a transactional thing, if you don't see them very often then you don't know them well.

WittyFawn · 04/04/2026 21:08

Bigearringsbigsmile · 04/04/2026 18:49

I think you're being wholly unreasonable! You'd let your daughter struggle ?? They're your grandchildren!

I agree!!

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 04/04/2026 21:07

Dalmationday · 04/04/2026 18:47

With family like this who needs enemies

I agree. If you’re free why on earth wouldn’t you support your daughter at this vulnerable stressful time

Sistersister50 · 04/04/2026 21:06

Carry on as you are, being unhelpful and difficult and making it all about you. In 5-10 yrs if you're lucky, you'll have full on estrangement and you'll be here sniping about it.

Youlittlerascal · 04/04/2026 21:06

More than anything l would love to have grandchildren to mind but unfortunately it is not my blessing at the moment.

Alter your thinking and love and adore your grandchildren and most of all enjoy every minute with them.

Vivi0 · 04/04/2026 21:06

youalright · 04/04/2026 20:59

My grandparents never did childcare for us and one we saw most days as was on the school run so on our way home we visited my mum had a cuppa and we played with nan. My other nan we see less often but she would always be organising big family bbq, bonfire night, Christmas, birthday parties, family holidays etc as she had a big house with lots of land. I had a great relationship with both up to their passing

So, you had a good relationship with your grandparent because you saw them most days. Do you honestly think it’s realistic for families to be visiting grandparents most days?

Ramblethroughthebrambles · 04/04/2026 21:03

popcorn215 · 04/04/2026 20:55

You would be disappointed… wow.

If course. It's gross carelessness with something so important. We all make mistakes but OP says the daughter is often last minute. How could anyone not check this at Easter unless they were thinking it wasn't important because they could always guilt trip Mum into doing it at the last minute.

OneChirpyRoseShaker · 04/04/2026 21:03

DitzyDerbyBabe86 · 04/04/2026 19:21

I am so glad neither my mum or my MIL is like you. Sorry but you sound truly cold hearted.

Same, feeling very lucky to have a decent support network

tachetastic · 04/04/2026 21:02

This is clearly a fake thread or reverse, but sure, I'll bite.

I think you are totally right @AyiaNanna. It's the thin end of the wedge. Before long she'll be expecting you to help out in emergencies or when the kids are home from school sick, and before you know it she'll have you reading bedtime stories, baking cakes with them and attending school plays. As they get older the kids may even want to drop in occasionally unannounced just to see how you are.

I would nip it in the bud now before your GCs get the wrong impression and imagine you might have a relationship based on anything other than your own convenience.

EvelynBeatrice · 04/04/2026 21:00

Yes, I too would be disappointed at having raised an irresponsible, potentially selfish person who was unable to look ahead and plan for their own child and was therefore dependent upon others - even me - to bail them out.

A genuinely unexpected emergency , sickness etc is of course different - that’s an all hands on deck, how can I help you love type scenario.

SalmonOnFinnCrisp · 04/04/2026 21:00

I mean on one hand "you do you"...
There's no way i would take this kind of position...

You read as being totally divorced from the realities of being a mother in 2026.
Job security is at an all time low, we are in a COL crisis, childcare costs are through the roof....
Like... why do you want to make your child's life EVEN harder?

I think if you decline you can expect to maintain any kind of meaningful relationship.
Shes asking for help as she ramps back up at work not regular childcare.

youalright · 04/04/2026 20:59

Vivi0 · 04/04/2026 20:43

Yes, I’m sure people are falling over themselves to spend hours every week visiting their parents who would begrudge them a couple of hours of downtime, or the ability to do the food shop without a child in tow.

My grandparents never did childcare for us and one we saw most days as was on the school run so on our way home we visited my mum had a cuppa and we played with nan. My other nan we see less often but she would always be organising big family bbq, bonfire night, Christmas, birthday parties, family holidays etc as she had a big house with lots of land. I had a great relationship with both up to their passing

PrincessScarlett · 04/04/2026 20:57

Why do you say your DD is unreliable?

popcorn215 · 04/04/2026 20:55

Ramblethroughthebrambles · 04/04/2026 20:53

I don't yet have GCs, but if my daughter said this to me I would be disappointed and annoyed - that two adults (presumably it wasn't an immaculate condition) could be so feckless as to bring a child into the world, sign an employment contract and not check whether nurseries were closed at Easter, whilst expecting me to pick up the slack just because this is what female family members are supposed to do. I would be having words but would probably look after the GC if there were no other option as I wouldn't want the child to suffer or the daughter to lose her job.

Yes it's nice for a village to raise a child but no one should have a child and just assume the village will do this, without checking that the village wants to.

My parents only ever looked after my children twice in emergencies and as adults my DCs have a warm relationship with their GPs though obviously not as close as someone partly brought up by GCs. Their GPs showed a genuine interest whenever they saw them. I wouldn't dream of withdrawing my current support from my elderly parents because they didn't do childcare. They supported me in other ways. If I have GCs I hope to look after them sometimes, but won't be making a regular commitment. I've had a lifetime of regular commitments! Different families work differently and I find it so frustrating that in 2026 so many women seem to think older women have a moral obligation to provide regular childcare by virtue of their gender. Some women enjoy childcare more than others and some are better at it. We don't expect all GPs to fix their adult children's cars or their gardens or their finances - we accept that some people are able and willing to do this, and some aren't.

You would be disappointed… wow.

Pinkgin00 · 04/04/2026 20:55

Families should try to help each other out in times of need. Unless there is a huge backstory, she has asked a favor from you next week, if you are in a position to do so, I would offer to help her out. Obviously it would be different if she was taking the piss and doing this everytime there is a school holiday, and asking you last minute, but this is the first time.

EvelynBeatrice · 04/04/2026 20:55

I’m quite staggered at the entitlement on this thread, especially the questions about what the poster does with her time- whether she has other caring responsibilities or works.

That doesn’t make any difference! She is not a resource to be used or a support human. She’s as entitled as anyone else to pursue her own happiness and spend her time as she wishes. Do you really think grandmothers - and it’s nearly always grandmothers - are never entitled to any freedom from caring responsibilities?

If you choose to have children, then you price it out and decide whether you can afford it both financially and whether you’re suited to the loss of personal free time for a period, how you’ll sort childcare, whether you can afford no, one only or more children. No-one owes you help.

None of this means that most healthy grandparents won’t help in an emergency or even on a regular basis if that’s been agreed in advance. But that’s different from the expectation that others must support your lifestyle and choices.

youalright · 04/04/2026 20:54

Shodan · 04/04/2026 20:50

There's a very unpleasant, transactional tone to some of these posts. 'No childcare, no relationship with your grandchildren.' 'No childcare, I won't take care of you when you're old'.

I can only assume that those posters were given everything they ever wanted in childhood and grew into spoilt brat adults.

Nasty.

People are definitely showing their true colours.

Childanddogmama · 04/04/2026 20:54

I think this is really sad. Sad that you are calling your daughter unreliable (when she doesn't seem to be - this is an easy thing to overlook when just starting back to work). Sad you are unsure about helping her when she needs it. And most sad that you aren't leaping at the chance to see your grandchild.
Honestly if you need convincing to look after this child, then you aren't the best person to provide care for them.

Ramblethroughthebrambles · 04/04/2026 20:53

I don't yet have GCs, but if my daughter said this to me I would be disappointed and annoyed - that two adults (presumably it wasn't an immaculate condition) could be so feckless as to bring a child into the world, sign an employment contract and not check whether nurseries were closed at Easter, whilst expecting me to pick up the slack just because this is what female family members are supposed to do. I would be having words but would probably look after the GC if there were no other option as I wouldn't want the child to suffer or the daughter to lose her job.

Yes it's nice for a village to raise a child but no one should have a child and just assume the village will do this, without checking that the village wants to.

My parents only ever looked after my children twice in emergencies and as adults my DCs have a warm relationship with their GPs though obviously not as close as someone partly brought up by GCs. Their GPs showed a genuine interest whenever they saw them. I wouldn't dream of withdrawing my current support from my elderly parents because they didn't do childcare. They supported me in other ways. If I have GCs I hope to look after them sometimes, but won't be making a regular commitment. I've had a lifetime of regular commitments! Different families work differently and I find it so frustrating that in 2026 so many women seem to think older women have a moral obligation to provide regular childcare by virtue of their gender. Some women enjoy childcare more than others and some are better at it. We don't expect all GPs to fix their adult children's cars or their gardens or their finances - we accept that some people are able and willing to do this, and some aren't.

youalright · 04/04/2026 20:53

Vivi0 · 04/04/2026 20:47

I do, actually.

I also have 2 children at primary school, and it’s a rare sight to see a grandparent drop off or collect a kid from school. Same applied when my children were at nursery.

Where are all these grandparents raising their grandchildren 5 days a week, I wonder?

64% of children aged 0-3 attend nursery in the UK.

It’s around 90% for children aged 3-4.

The stats don’t reflect your claims at all.

Because a lot of grandparents can't offer childcare anymore as they still work full time so they are putting their foot down. If you choose to have a child you need to figure these things out not just expect your parents to drop everything to become childcare

Shodan · 04/04/2026 20:50

There's a very unpleasant, transactional tone to some of these posts. 'No childcare, no relationship with your grandchildren.' 'No childcare, I won't take care of you when you're old'.

I can only assume that those posters were given everything they ever wanted in childhood and grew into spoilt brat adults.

Nasty.

Laura95167 · 04/04/2026 20:48

You need to decide what you want. I can understand not wanting to offer regular childcare, but then if it isnt scheduled you open yourself up to more ad hoc requests. Which by their very nature are at shorter notice.

Or you can stand by NO childcare. Thats your prerogative. They arent yours and youve no obligation. But dont you want to be close to your DGC? Ultimately its your call, you were clear you wouldnt help so she knows the score.

But if it were me, id ask if my principles were a barrier to my long term happiness

Vivi0 · 04/04/2026 20:47

youalright · 04/04/2026 20:37

Then you don't know many people

I do, actually.

I also have 2 children at primary school, and it’s a rare sight to see a grandparent drop off or collect a kid from school. Same applied when my children were at nursery.

Where are all these grandparents raising their grandchildren 5 days a week, I wonder?

64% of children aged 0-3 attend nursery in the UK.

It’s around 90% for children aged 3-4.

The stats don’t reflect your claims at all.

DarmokAndJaladAtTenagra · 04/04/2026 20:44

AyiaNanna · 04/04/2026 19:00

She is lovely but everything is last minute.com with her. If I keep coming to the rescue when will she ever learn?
I’ll take on board some of the comments and might reconsider a day or two.

Do you want to have a future relationship with your grandchildren and daughter?

I wouldn't choose this particular time (the upset and stress of going back to work after mat leave for your precious first born baby) and this particular issue (childcare, which will be seen as a lack of acceptance, lack of love, poor priorities on your part) to turn into a teaching moment.

Pick lower stakes, less emotive issues to "help her learn"

cubistqueen · 04/04/2026 20:44

I have been a single parent since my youngest was 5 - now 20. Neither of them are interested in having children so this is all,probably hypothetical for me, but I absolutely do not want to do any childcare. The thought of dealing with small children/babies even now, at 52, exhausts me and I can only imagine that as I get older I’ll be even less keen.
my parents didn’t do childcare for me, but they visited us, we visited them and the girls kept in touch through phone calls and now WhatsApp. They have lovely relationships with both sets of grandparents (and their dad). When my parents need help then I’d be happy to give it to them because I, their child and they raised me and supported me and loved me all my life. I certainly wouldn’t use their lack of childcare for my daughters as a reason to not give them help.