AIBU to consider a date with a man who is sectioned under the MH act

I don't think anyone actually said that. I think you have totally taken something the wrong way and have massively overreacted in a way that makes me seriously raise my eyebrows.

Just RTFT, Op you have children and I’m assuming some challenges yourself as you mention meeting him via a support group.
You really aren’t making good choices at all, your priority should be your own health and the welfare of your children.
Bringing a man who has been sectioned into your lives is not a good choice, leave him to get himself better and be clear you only see him as a friend.
Stay single and prioritise your family.

Confiscating Easter eggs outside Tesco is a very long way from violating patients’ rights by forcibly administering a vaccine without consent, using a law that was never designed for that purpose.

I used to be a mental health nurse nobody wants to force medication unless its absolutely necessary its distressing for everyone
I really cant imagine the covid vaccine being forced it woukd be illegal anyway.

Some people don't want to be honest with themselves. It's got nothing to do with rudeness.

I didn’t suggest that you were. Just that it would be difficult to have anything more than friendship with him until he is out of hospital anyway.

I'm not
But being sectioned is crisis management.

But why would you actively pursue someone that is going to bring a lot of baggage to your life? I love my DH and would stay with him if he was sectioned now, but I wouldn’t have got to the place of falling in love with him and building a life with him if that was to be a feature of our lives from the outset, and I’m not sure why anyone would.

I’ve never looked at a conspiracy website in my life.

I did however work in a hospital during Covid and if you’re suggesting that the law wasn’t broken, you’re naive at best.
The law was being made up as it went aLong. Do you not remember Easter eggs being confiscated outside of tesco’s by the police?

find it really sad that you’d rather be with someone that detracts from your life (accepting the kids point is personal and you may not see it that way) than be alone.

Nowhere have I said this. I prefer to think of it as accepting that we are all human and we all have our faults and issues. I’m with someone who enhances my life and accepts my many faults and foibles, just as I accept his. Nobody is perfect.

They were not. The MHA does not cover this. Covid didn’t mean that medics were running around breaking the law whenever they liked to forcibly administer vaccines. Maybe leave the conspiracy theory websites alone for a bit.

No. It wasn’t. We’re talking about The Mental Health Act here. It gives clinicians the authority section a patient to administer essential treatment for their Mental Health Condition. It could not be used to forcibly administer Covid vaccinations because they are not a part of mental health treatment.

Whether or not a patient has the capacity to make their own decisions is determined by the Mental Capacity Act, and in those cases a clinician would be authorised to make a best interests decision, based on the individual.

Once again, you’re confusing capacity with consent when they are two entirely different issues. Just because someone is sectioned and on a ‘mental health ward’ doesn’t mean they lack the capacity to understand what’s happening to them, and they retain the right to refuse any treatment which does not relate to their mental health.

Maybe make sure you know what you’re talking about before you eye roll. Consent and capacity are two separate issues and are determined by two separate Acts of Parliament. Sections are issued for various reasons under the Mental Health Act for the protection of the person experiencing mental health issues and for the safety of others where appropriate. Where the person has refused treatment, they allow doctors to detain them as an inpatient and for necessary treatment to be administered. Consent is temporarily set aside for the purposes of medical treatment only. The person retains full consent in all other matters.

The MHA does not examine or assess the person’s capacity for consent - that is the purpose of the Mental Capacity Act, which allows for the assessment of a person’s mental capacity to make their own decisions. They are two distinctly different things. Even when it’s determined that a person has reduced capacity, for example due to the onset of Dementia, the law specifies that all decisions on their behalf must be taken at a suitable time for their optimum involvement.

So no. They do not go hand in hand.

It absolutely was done to the elderly who had no idea what they were agreeing to.
So I’d have no doubt whatsoever that it was done to those on mental health ward so again didn’t realise what they would be agreeing to and I’m very pro vaccination so I don’t necessarily think it was a bad thing but it definitely happened
Which that makes you wonder what else happens?

It wasn't though, because the MHA is strictly about MH disorders and the treatment for them.
If you are sectioned, you can refuse treatment for things that are not MH treatments.
You can also make decisions about relationships etc even if they might be unwise.

If he is currently under section, he isn’t in the right state to be dating or making big relationship decisions. I’m not saying doesn’t have capacity - I’m sure he does. But that doesn’t mean it’s a good idea for either of you.

I would bet my last penny that it was though and that people were vaccinated against their will

Why has he been sectioned? If the reason is treatable then wait to see how he recovers. People who are sectioned are still human and if you like him explore this when he is recovered.

Yep, I remember reading about how the MHA could be used to force people to have the Covid vaccine. It could not.

You might not have capacity to make decisions about your MH but you can retain capacity to make other decisions (including other medical decisions). Really depends (and can fluctuate).