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AIBU to hope this heartbreaking story is a catalyst for change?

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homemadecarrotsoup · 03/04/2026 12:06

I hope this awful story underlines the need for specialist support for parents with disabled children. I work in a special school and have seen the struggles may parent face when it’s school holidays.

https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/news/people/nyla-bradshaw-no-suspicious-circumstances-say-police-amid-childminder-claims-6534937 www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/news/people/nyla-bradshaw-no-suspicious-circumstances-say-police-amid-childminder-claims-6534937]]]]

Poor little girl and her family. And the childminder who I am sure is distraught. Just a really awful story and there are no winners or villains in it.

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ThereAreOnlyShadesOfGrey · 03/04/2026 13:10

I think it’s very apparent that the OP is connected to this case in some way and this thread should be removed.

Not least because hopefully prosecutions will follow, and any thread like this could prejudice a trial if one happens.

homemadecarrotsoup · 03/04/2026 13:08

IHopeYouStepOnALegPiece · 03/04/2026 13:05

What part of any of this thread was appropriate?

I think it’s perfectly appropriate to raise the struggles families of disabled children have accessing childcare. I didn’t start it as a torch and pitchfork thread.

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LegencyMonsters · 03/04/2026 13:08

homemadecarrotsoup · 03/04/2026 12:57

I am surprised and actually quite disappointed at the aggression aimed at me in a thread I hoped would be respectful.

I have said above that I have no doubt the childminder should have done some things differently . However, I can see that looking after a little girl for the first time at a busy time of year will have thrown up the unexpected. This had an extremely tragic outcome.

The childminder made it clear to the parent that she was out with her charges a lot and tbh, that’s largely what I would expect from a childminder. I can’t imagine many people would be thrilled with their child never going out of the house. When childminders are suggested on here as an alternative to a nursery that’s usually one of the selling points.

Obviously if the childminder agreed not to take the child out and did anyway that is different, but that’s not what happened. I don’t really want to delve into tha out of respect tbh.

Respectful conversations dont really happen when you are trying to defend a childminder that neglected a disabled child so much that she drowned and died!

ThereAreOnlyShadesOfGrey · 03/04/2026 13:08

Are you the CM in question here OP or related to her inn some way?

She was being paid to look after this child.

If the parent had requested the child not be taken out or supervised in a particular way then it was down to her to either not take on the child. The end. It really is that simple.

Instead she went against the mother’s wishes, having been made fully aware of the risks.

She should be prosecuted for manslaughter. There are no if’s and buts here.

And all this “it won’t bring the child back” bollocks is just language to protect the guilty.

As for “she will live with this for the rest of her life.” Good.

She should never be trusted to look after any child again.

It wasn’t an accident. It was deliberate neglect.

Duckingpondlake · 03/04/2026 13:07

homemadecarrotsoup · 03/04/2026 13:02

I do know some additional detail but it wouldn’t be appropriate for me to comment further. The only thing I’ve indicated is that the childminder did tell the mother she was out a lot with the children and that is actually in the public domain.

But it's very different to usually being out with the children, and being specifically asked not to take this child out and ignoring it.
I don't really know why you've started this thread, you want to defend the CM but her actions do seem pretty indefensible.

PolkaDotPorridge · 03/04/2026 13:06

How can anyone think it is NOT the childminders fault?

IHopeYouStepOnALegPiece · 03/04/2026 13:05

homemadecarrotsoup · 03/04/2026 13:02

I do know some additional detail but it wouldn’t be appropriate for me to comment further. The only thing I’ve indicated is that the childminder did tell the mother she was out a lot with the children and that is actually in the public domain.

What part of any of this thread was appropriate?

homemadecarrotsoup · 03/04/2026 13:02

I do know some additional detail but it wouldn’t be appropriate for me to comment further. The only thing I’ve indicated is that the childminder did tell the mother she was out a lot with the children and that is actually in the public domain.

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Duckingpondlake · 03/04/2026 13:00

@OP how do you know so much about the detail that hasn't been written in the article?

JustCabbaggeLooking · 03/04/2026 13:00

homemadecarrotsoup · 03/04/2026 12:57

I am surprised and actually quite disappointed at the aggression aimed at me in a thread I hoped would be respectful.

I have said above that I have no doubt the childminder should have done some things differently . However, I can see that looking after a little girl for the first time at a busy time of year will have thrown up the unexpected. This had an extremely tragic outcome.

The childminder made it clear to the parent that she was out with her charges a lot and tbh, that’s largely what I would expect from a childminder. I can’t imagine many people would be thrilled with their child never going out of the house. When childminders are suggested on here as an alternative to a nursery that’s usually one of the selling points.

Obviously if the childminder agreed not to take the child out and did anyway that is different, but that’s not what happened. I don’t really want to delve into tha out of respect tbh.

How do you know this?

IHopeYouStepOnALegPiece · 03/04/2026 12:59

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JustCabbaggeLooking · 03/04/2026 12:59

The childminder made it clear she was out a lot with the children. The issue seems to have been around wrist straps.

How do you know this? The article you linked to, and other reports I have read, make no reference to this.

somethingischasingme · 03/04/2026 12:58

I work with families who are crying out for care for their special dc when they are not at school. They may need to work, have other caring responsibilities, not be in the best health etc. There is not a bank of specialist carers out there. Why? Because other jobs are easier and pay more. I have families who have lost their own children- escaping from houses, gardens, parks and the families are just ordinary people trying to eat, sleep, cook, use the bathroom, change the baby… and the child is gone, often (thankfully) brought back by the police. One child I worked with caused an early morning car accident running across a dual carriageway in the early hours of the morning. The family were asleep. The child had climbed out of the window. The only solution I can see is specialist provision-like school- where the site is secure and the adults to child ratio is high. And this is not the ‘normal’ experience of life most families want and most children need. So the answer is? I don’t know.

homemadecarrotsoup · 03/04/2026 12:57

I am surprised and actually quite disappointed at the aggression aimed at me in a thread I hoped would be respectful.

I have said above that I have no doubt the childminder should have done some things differently . However, I can see that looking after a little girl for the first time at a busy time of year will have thrown up the unexpected. This had an extremely tragic outcome.

The childminder made it clear to the parent that she was out with her charges a lot and tbh, that’s largely what I would expect from a childminder. I can’t imagine many people would be thrilled with their child never going out of the house. When childminders are suggested on here as an alternative to a nursery that’s usually one of the selling points.

Obviously if the childminder agreed not to take the child out and did anyway that is different, but that’s not what happened. I don’t really want to delve into tha out of respect tbh.

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Sartre · 03/04/2026 12:54

Knew it was going to be this story. I read it with a lump in my throat. My DS is 5 and has SEN. I have to keep our doors locked at all times and I cannot leave the door open if I pop out to take the bin out or anything whilst he’s awake. He cannot be trusted- he leaves the house and will run down the street. He has zero sense of danger and has slipped out of our hands before to run across a road because he’s seen something he likes. It’s only sheer luck he hasn’t been seriously injured or worse.

It isn’t incompetent parenting, when they elope they are so fucking fast and it’s just a split second thing. I’ve kept up my running habit partially for this- so I’m fit and fast and can catch him when he darts off. We cannot and would not trust him in public without tightly holding his hands unless it’s an enclosed space. He’s attracted to water as well, as I’m imagining this poor little girl was. He would quite gladly jump into a pond to chase a bird.

It’s just terrible. The childminder knew the girl had to be watched at all times. Her door should have been locked. The poor poor parents. I haven’t shared the story with my DH, he can’t hear things like this without getting seriously upset.

Motomum23 · 03/04/2026 12:53

I've been a childminder for 20 years and I wouldn't take a SEN child out of my setting unless I knew I would be physically able to grab them, in fact I have a SEN child 1 day a week and last week was the first time we had been out of the house/garden in the last 6 months because I had my smaller and vulnerable toddlers off sick so I knew I could chase if needed without leaving them unattended.
This IS the childminders fault. It doesn't being the child back but I do think negligence charges should be considered.

Silverbirchleaf · 03/04/2026 12:52

I just had a new dog sitter. I had about four forms to fill in- terms and conditions, vet details, behavioural details , and off-lead or not and that was to dog sit in my own home for three hours.

Surely a childminder taking on a child, with or without complex needs would have similar forms (obviously doctor rather than vets etc!) so they learn about a child’s behaviour, needs etc.

ApriloNeil2026 · 03/04/2026 12:51

homemadecarrotsoup · 03/04/2026 12:39

She probably didn’t realise @LegencyMonsters .

I am sure there are things everyone would have done differently in retrospect but pointing the finger of blame doesn’t bring the little girl back. Nothing will of course. But some provision for specialist care would at least one good thing comes out of this horrible story.

as with anything who pays the costs,

IHopeYouStepOnALegPiece · 03/04/2026 12:51

homemadecarrotsoup · 03/04/2026 12:47

It depends on what those instructions are wnd if they were actually given.

I would prefer the thread to stay respectful.

What the fuck. No it doesnt matter what the instructions are. If a parent requests they do not take the child out and the childminder agrees to this, then it is completely fucking unacceptable to TAKE THE CHILD OUT.

If the childminder could not do that due to other children then it is her responsibility to say that will not work and she cannot meet those requirements.

TMFF · 03/04/2026 12:50

homemadecarrotsoup · 03/04/2026 12:40

@Springandaprayer it isn’t about being absolved of guilt. As far as I can gather, a childminder took some children out. I don’t know where she took them and I don’t know if there were instructions she didn’t follow. I just don’t think demonising her actually helps anyone.

I don’t know if there were instructions she didn’t follow.

Then you must be on some sort of wind up here with all the excuses you're making.

LegencyMonsters · 03/04/2026 12:49

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homemadecarrotsoup · 03/04/2026 12:49

hattie43 · 03/04/2026 12:46

Who the hell chooses a childminder from Facebook , especially one with complex needs . I wouldn’t even employ a dog sitter via Facebook . We are so reliant on social media these days it seems common sense goes out the window . What a dreadful tragedy

In fairness, parents often ask on our local Facebook groups for childminder and nursery recommendations. I think there aspect was embellished by the press.

The childminder made it clear she was out a lot with the children. The issue seems to have been around wrist straps.

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homemadecarrotsoup · 03/04/2026 12:47

CocoaTea · 03/04/2026 12:44

You are ok with a childminder ignoring specific parental instructions without any discussion?

It depends on what those instructions are wnd if they were actually given.

I would prefer the thread to stay respectful.

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TMFF · 03/04/2026 12:47

homemadecarrotsoup · 03/04/2026 12:39

She probably didn’t realise @LegencyMonsters .

I am sure there are things everyone would have done differently in retrospect but pointing the finger of blame doesn’t bring the little girl back. Nothing will of course. But some provision for specialist care would at least one good thing comes out of this horrible story.

I am sure there are things everyone would have done differently in retrospect but pointing the finger of blame doesn’t bring the little girl back.

Well of course not, justice never brings anyone back from the dead.

But it can certainly provide a modicum of comfort for the parent.

Silverbirchleaf · 03/04/2026 12:47

The childminder was specifically asked not to take the child out, and the child is known to be an escape artist (even involving special measures put in the house)and yet the childminder still took her out. I know she would have never predicted the tragic consequences, but you still adhere to the parents wishes.