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Is this partly why countries need immigration ?

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ApriloNeil2026 · 03/04/2026 11:16

Countries such as Japan and South Korea illustrate the extreme case: extremely low fertility combined with minimal immigration leads to rapid population aging and long-term economic stagnation.

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SerendipityJane · 04/04/2026 10:59

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 03/04/2026 21:07

How do you feel about British citizens who are draining society rather than contributing to it? Eg self-employed builders who take insist on being paid in cash so they can avoid paying tax, or those who have the spare time to go around painting red crosses on mini roundabouts because they're on universal credit?

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Their crimes are mere pinpricks compared to the wholesale amputations being committed by the megacorps who pay little to no tax.

I mean you'd need a fuck of a lot of builders dodging a lot of tax to match what Amazon should be paying. Let alone Google, Apple, Meta, Microsoft. And they are all pricing up a job the other side of town but will call in tomorrow.

Djdja · 04/04/2026 10:36

Thing is mass immigration has disastrous social consequences. I'd rather see Japan and South Korea remain Japanese and Korean.

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ApriloNeil2026 · 03/04/2026 23:01

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 03/04/2026 21:07

How do you feel about British citizens who are draining society rather than contributing to it? Eg self-employed builders who take insist on being paid in cash so they can avoid paying tax, or those who have the spare time to go around painting red crosses on mini roundabouts because they're on universal credit?

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in the modern day theres only so many companies that can exist and make profits, so then whats left for the rest of the population ?

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dizzydizzydizzy · 03/04/2026 22:37

Shedmistress · 03/04/2026 21:47

Japan, that failure what with being the 4th highest GDP in the world?

Where do you people get this utter garbage from?

yes, a rich country but growth is stagnant and the population is falling and aging. It’s very difficult to grow an economy with fewer people of working age.

Shedmistress · 03/04/2026 21:47

Japan, that failure what with being the 4th highest GDP in the world?

Where do you people get this utter garbage from?

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 03/04/2026 21:07

Farawaytreemagic · 03/04/2026 12:12

As long as the immigrants are going to contribute to society and not drain it then yes

How do you feel about British citizens who are draining society rather than contributing to it? Eg self-employed builders who take insist on being paid in cash so they can avoid paying tax, or those who have the spare time to go around painting red crosses on mini roundabouts because they're on universal credit?

Farawaytreemagic · 03/04/2026 12:12

As long as the immigrants are going to contribute to society and not drain it then yes

JehovasFitness · 03/04/2026 12:07

Yes, that is partly why countries need immigration.

Allowing entry to adults of working age is a totally rational thing to do.