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AIBU to be fed up with walkers trespassing on our land?

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Pricelessadvice · 03/04/2026 10:13

We have a family farm that, unfortunately, has a footpath that runs through it.
The footpath turns and goes into some woods and off our property but many people ignore the turn and just carry on around our land. This is mostly dog walkers. They then let their dog crap on our fields and just leave it. We take a crop off the land- some years a hay crop, some years beans, others wheat- but people just don’t seem to care.
I am always polite when I see someone trespassing. I ask them if they know they have left the footpath and I point them back in the direction of it. 9 people out of 10 get really arsey about it. I get all the excuses in the book- “it’s just fields/I always walk here/I can do what I want/it’s just grass/other people do it”
Ive had off lead dogs chasing my liveries horses (who have permission to ride the headlands), sheep being worried, the list goes on.

There are plenty of signs telling people where the footpath is and where it isn’t, but they get ignored.

When I try to explain to people that they wouldn’t like it if I walked my dogs in their garden every day and let them poo everywhere, they just argue that it’s not the same coz “these are fields”
SIGH
The Covid year was a bloody nightmare with people wandering everywhere.
When did people get so entitled? AIBU to think that people just think they can do whatever the hell they want nowadays?

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HelenaWilson · 04/04/2026 23:26

There have been news stories about people cutting the fencing along railway lines so they can walk across the track where they want to, rather than going to a bridge or level crossing. If they want to fry themselves on the live rail or get flattened by a train that's their lookout, but I object to having my journey disrupted by these morons.

Pricelessadvice · 04/04/2026 21:50

GrannyGoggles · 04/04/2026 21:41

I was not going to post, as a potentially grumpy old farmer, irritated by the just put up a fence or some signs brigade.

But, this evening, a knock on the door, would I please open the gate on our farm
drive as Mr Knob and his daughter had been ‘exploring’.

I pointed out that there was no right way of or public access, that all PROW were marked and accessible, that we welcomed, encouraged and enabled people to enjoy using them. I would open the gate, but suggest he used many of the apps available to plan his routes.

His reply was that I was a ‘fucking snob’

I will not start on dog shit, stressed ewes, litter.

People are shocking aren’t they. You have my sympathies.

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GrannyGoggles · 04/04/2026 21:41

I was not going to post, as a potentially grumpy old farmer, irritated by the just put up a fence or some signs brigade.

But, this evening, a knock on the door, would I please open the gate on our farm
drive as Mr Knob and his daughter had been ‘exploring’.

I pointed out that there was no right way of or public access, that all PROW were marked and accessible, that we welcomed, encouraged and enabled people to enjoy using them. I would open the gate, but suggest he used many of the apps available to plan his routes.

His reply was that I was a ‘fucking snob’

I will not start on dog shit, stressed ewes, litter.

pinkstripeycat · 04/04/2026 21:38

Where I live there is fencing around a grassy hill in front of a railway line. People are constantly smashing the fence apart. It’s built back and someone smashes it down again. Also wooden bridges over little boggy streams keep getting smashed apart. They have been replaced with really strong wooden bridges that people are now trying to set on fire!

CatrionaBalfour · 04/04/2026 21:33

A TikTok phenomenon, or animals as entertainment.

ACynicalDad · 04/04/2026 21:29

Even if you can’t fence/hedge it all in can you do enough to redirect people at the 90 degree turn?

CatrionaBalfour · 04/04/2026 21:26

Bloodyboiling · 04/04/2026 21:12

The problem is that many people do not exercise this right "responsibly" in Scotland. I live in a small island Community where in spring and summer on any given day, the tourist population out numbers locals. Many of these tourists, often ironically English, behave in an appalling entitled manner, paying no heed to the outdoor access code you quote, and there is basically nothing anyone can do about this.

Fields, with baby livestock in them are fair game for dogs to run off the lead, shitting where they please and upsetting the animals, oh and actually that also applies to the humans too. I regularly have to bury shitty toilet paper left blowing about the beach beside my house by so called "wild campers". I wouldn't hold Scotland's right to roam up as any sort of example of a great system. For those of us who actually live in the Scottish countryside it is a fucking nightmare at times.

I can only sympathise and agree that it's an absolute horror. The usual story of dogs not being managed properly and the disrespect of the environment and the residents. Awful. If only you could bill them for damages!

todayImstruggling · 04/04/2026 21:21

BringBackCatsEyes · 04/04/2026 20:38

She got up, stuck 2 fingers in my face, turned her back and walked off! It's not 'just a few' it's the majority now and the rest of us are expected to stuff it.

While there has been an increase ignorant dog owners, I really don't think the majority are arseholes.

I’d disagree with that. The number of decent respectful folks are most certainly in the minority once silly season has begun.

todayImstruggling · 04/04/2026 21:19

SuzyFandango · 04/04/2026 19:23

One thing op - have you thought about putting a couple of bins along the route people walk? I am not a dog fan myself & think far too many people have them these days, and I appreciate you shouldn't have to, but if you really do just want to limit people leaving mess, a lined bin might reduce poo left near your animals & crops.

If its a prow you might even be able to request a council bin.

Not a flipping chance no! People can take their own 💩home. Who is going to pay for these bins? And empty them? Oh and pay for the waste to be disposed of - because it’s not domestic waste it won’t be taken by the council!

Honestly the entitlement of some people!

Bloodyboiling · 04/04/2026 21:12

Scaryscarytimes · 04/04/2026 01:23

I sympathise with your position, but in Scotland people are entitled to walk across fields if they don't contain crops. They have to exercise that right responsibly and landowners are required to facilitate that right. So perhaps you're betraying your ignorance in suggesting that something is absolutely outrageous and unworkable when it's been happening in Scotland for a long time. I've walked across many fields of sheep, never doing any damage or frightening the animals. And no, that's not the same as walking through someone's garden. Gardens are excluded from the right to roam, as are farmyards. The idea is that a small number of people (this is more the case in Scotland than in England) own most of the land, and that without a right to roam that deprives the majority of citizens of the right to enjoy their own country. The problem of course comes when rights are abused, and no doubt through people not being educated and brought up to behave responsibly. But I do think that land owners are unwilling to see things from the other perspective - the perspective of people who spend most of their lives shut in tiny houses and flats with a few square metres of overlooked garden.
Key points when managing land | Scottish Outdoor Access Code

The problem is that many people do not exercise this right "responsibly" in Scotland. I live in a small island Community where in spring and summer on any given day, the tourist population out numbers locals. Many of these tourists, often ironically English, behave in an appalling entitled manner, paying no heed to the outdoor access code you quote, and there is basically nothing anyone can do about this.

Fields, with baby livestock in them are fair game for dogs to run off the lead, shitting where they please and upsetting the animals, oh and actually that also applies to the humans too. I regularly have to bury shitty toilet paper left blowing about the beach beside my house by so called "wild campers". I wouldn't hold Scotland's right to roam up as any sort of example of a great system. For those of us who actually live in the Scottish countryside it is a fucking nightmare at times.

BringBackCatsEyes · 04/04/2026 20:38

She got up, stuck 2 fingers in my face, turned her back and walked off! It's not 'just a few' it's the majority now and the rest of us are expected to stuff it.

While there has been an increase ignorant dog owners, I really don't think the majority are arseholes.

IthinkIamAnAlien · 04/04/2026 20:36

OP huge amount of sympathy from me with bloody dogs and their owners. I very nearly got tripped up by a dog in a restaurant the other day which was on a long lead so right across the aisle between tables, could you keep that dog on a short lead I asked the owner. She got up, stuck 2 fingers in my face, turned her back and walked off! It's not 'just a few' it's the majority now and the rest of us are expected to stuff it.
To answer you OP, I thought farmers were allowed to apply to change footpaths that were inconveniently placed on your land? Otherwise, fence the fields though I know that's an expense. Can you lease some of the fields to a boisterous set of young cattle, that puts people off. Can you spray the fields with liquid human manure as a fertiliser or something equally smelly and nasty? If people won't do as asked or be polite then don't be nice. Good luck.

constantnc · 04/04/2026 20:34

Pricelessadvice · 03/04/2026 12:11

The path turns to to the right 90degrees and there is a sign saying “footpath this way” with an arrow and then a sign pointing forwards (to the private land) saying “private land, please keep off”. Then about 100 yards further up this private land, there’s a sign saying “you are now trespassing” and an arrow showing where the footpath went.
There is a worn track onto the private land as my liveries are allowed to ride the headlands on their horses and I walk my own dogs that way daily.

Most of the walkers coming through aren’t ramblers who are here for the first time, they are local dog walkers. A lot of them are amazing and I am friendly with loads of them as they live in the village. They also try to help me and will remind people if they see them heading the wrong way.

For the poster who said that my use of the word ‘unfortunate’ is very telling, well sadly, that’s what the public do to you! I am fed up of my cats being chased by off lead dogs (despite signs saying please keep your dogs on leash around the farm house and yard), fed up of dog poo by my garden gate…
The footpath goes through one of our grazing fields aswell but to protect everyone, we fenced the horses off, effectively losing a huge strip of our grazing land. But I felt it was safer for walkers aswell as I know people can be wary of being in fields with horses.
I’m actually not a dragon and I’m quite a reasonable person! People seem to want to paint me as a grumpy farmer but I leave that to part to my uncle when he’s about 😂

At this point where the paths turns i would put a gate/chain/peguin bollard.
Having to go through something physical when trespassing is much more difficult on a psychological level for people, so they may stay on the public path......plus do not make it easy.
I walk my dog sometimes on a local field but always stick to the signed path and keep her on the lead. And taught my teens to do the same. Its nicer than the pavement with cars rushing past so we are lucky to have it and respect the rules.

CatrionaBalfour · 04/04/2026 20:19

Terrribletwos · 04/04/2026 20:06

Who's going to empty those bins?

That was going to be my question.

Terrribletwos · 04/04/2026 20:10

Pricelessadvice · 03/04/2026 10:13

We have a family farm that, unfortunately, has a footpath that runs through it.
The footpath turns and goes into some woods and off our property but many people ignore the turn and just carry on around our land. This is mostly dog walkers. They then let their dog crap on our fields and just leave it. We take a crop off the land- some years a hay crop, some years beans, others wheat- but people just don’t seem to care.
I am always polite when I see someone trespassing. I ask them if they know they have left the footpath and I point them back in the direction of it. 9 people out of 10 get really arsey about it. I get all the excuses in the book- “it’s just fields/I always walk here/I can do what I want/it’s just grass/other people do it”
Ive had off lead dogs chasing my liveries horses (who have permission to ride the headlands), sheep being worried, the list goes on.

There are plenty of signs telling people where the footpath is and where it isn’t, but they get ignored.

When I try to explain to people that they wouldn’t like it if I walked my dogs in their garden every day and let them poo everywhere, they just argue that it’s not the same coz “these are fields”
SIGH
The Covid year was a bloody nightmare with people wandering everywhere.
When did people get so entitled? AIBU to think that people just think they can do whatever the hell they want nowadays?

I'm with you @Pricelessadvice . People have become very entitled. Speaking from the north where people on the route there think nothing of leaving their shit on the byways and sideways. It's a mess.

Terrribletwos · 04/04/2026 20:06

SuzyFandango · 04/04/2026 19:23

One thing op - have you thought about putting a couple of bins along the route people walk? I am not a dog fan myself & think far too many people have them these days, and I appreciate you shouldn't have to, but if you really do just want to limit people leaving mess, a lined bin might reduce poo left near your animals & crops.

If its a prow you might even be able to request a council bin.

Who's going to empty those bins?

SuzyFandango · 04/04/2026 19:23

One thing op - have you thought about putting a couple of bins along the route people walk? I am not a dog fan myself & think far too many people have them these days, and I appreciate you shouldn't have to, but if you really do just want to limit people leaving mess, a lined bin might reduce poo left near your animals & crops.

If its a prow you might even be able to request a council bin.

Pricelessadvice · 04/04/2026 19:12

I’d like to thank all the people who have taken the time to explain about their experiences on footpaths where signage might not be the best. We do have signs but I’ve taken that on board and have ordered some more.
I don’t want to ruin peoples enjoyment of the footpath, far from it. If people stick to it and are respectful of the land it goes through, there really is no issue.
I use footpaths myself, after all.

I think a couple of people want to paint all land owners as rich, greedy people who are buying up the countryside to stop people using it, or get all footpaths closed. Im not sure where that has come from as I have never once mentioned that I want the footpath closed or even re-routed, but I assume they simply have their own opinions and this thread has given them an opportunity to voice those. Fair enough I suppose. That really isn’t the case here though.

Many thanks to everyone for their thoughts though 🙂

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Allonthesametrain · 04/04/2026 18:40

During our walks we've always acknowledged signs but best to have several as they can be missed. Also, more direct, private, dangers of pesticides, public footpath that way with pointers.

Whenever we've got a bit lost we've always been polite, apologised and been grateful for directions to get back on track.

I would have thought most if not all walkers would have display the same behaviour but I do understand how some could be annoyed, especially as a genuine mistake, to be told off 'oi get orf my land'. This was a joke. Xx

Aparecium · 04/04/2026 18:16

SuzyFandango · 04/04/2026 17:34

*I obviously see things differently to you. If I
see rolling hills and countryside, I don’t automatically think I should have the right to walk across it. *

You have probably lost a lot of sympathy saying this. The vast majority of people walking in the countryside do little/no damage.

Not at all.

The problem is when people see rolling hills and countryside as playground rather than as food production line or hospital maternity ward. They wouldn’t think that they have the automatic right to play wherever they like in a food production line, or leave poo on the floor in a maternity ward - I hope!

Terrribletwos · 04/04/2026 18:11

Scaryscarytimes · 04/04/2026 17:16

Vast swathes of countryside being in the private ownership of a small number of extremely rich families for centuries is what leads to revolution, or in this case to the Right to Roam. In Scotland there are still very strong feelings about the clearances.
It isn't right, or sustainable, for the huge majority of the population to be forced to live in tiny spaces in the cities, with no right to access the countryside, because a few mega rich people have bought the countryside up.
How would you feel in England if there were no public footpaths? No national parks? Nowhere to go to see grass and trees, other than your local town park? Nowhere to exercise other than your local gym? Well, those public footpaths and national parks didn't come about by accident. The government created them. Access to the countryside is a public good, and sometimes a public good takes precedence over the right of a billionaire to boot people off his land because it's his.

What's that got to do with the Op?

PrincessofWells · 04/04/2026 17:58

Pricelessadvice · 03/04/2026 12:19

If you stick to the perimeter of all the fields, it loops back to the other side of the farm, so some local people see it as a great dog walk because their dog is basically off lead the whole way, there’s no traffic and it takes them back to the starting point at the other end of the footpath. It’s around a 25 minute walk to do the loop. We have a few residential roads nearby and it seems people seem the farm as their own private dog walking route.
I’m now wondering whether I could make some money out of this - an annual fee for dog walking rights!😅 (that’s a joke by the way!)

Fence it or charge people. Our friend charges for horses using the footpath and loads of riders are very grateful to be able to get off road.

If you charge for people walking off the footpath I don't see a problem.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 04/04/2026 17:54

Pricelessadvice · 04/04/2026 17:48

But I obviously do see things differently. I regularly see rubbish stuffed in our hedgerows and dog poo bags hanging up on trees. Ever pulled in at a country lay-by and seen litter just dumped, despite there beings bins? Have you never seen people tossing rubbish out of car windows? There’s a motorway junction by us and on the verges by the traffic lights to the junction roundabout, it’s like a rubbish tip. Sadly a lot of people cannot respect our planet.

I apologise to the decent people out there who do respect nature and just want to walk in the countryside, but when every day you are confronted with what humans do to our environment (I’m not just talking about my farm now, I’m talking about the footpaths I walk when I’m out with my dogs, and the beaches), it’s hard to imagine that these places of natural beauty won’t be in some way tainted by humans.

That got a bit deep, sorry 😅

The dog poo bags hanging from trees during covid were unbelievable. Often in remote fields where there was no right of way. I always thought people must assume that they are followed everywhere by council run turd collectors who clear up after them. Mad.

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