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AIBU to think school street restrictions and PCNs will cause more chaos?

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Whatabouttheparcels · 02/04/2026 22:34

a council near me are introducing school streets to stop congestion outside schools which is a great idea. They are introducing permit parking great

what this means in reality is hundreds of houses aren’t allowed any deliveries, no taxis and no none essential building workers in the area every school workday between 8am and 9.30 and 2.30 and 3.45

A permanent career can get a pass but not random district nurses etc. imagine telling delivery firms they can’t deliver at these times or they will get a PCN. Anyone saying they should use lockers, my last delivery was a dishwasher

AIBU in thinking this is a stupid idea and school traffic will just park a bit further away and this will cause chaos?

https://www.salford.gov.uk/parking-roads-and-travel/school-streets/frequently-asked-questions/

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AIBU to think school street restrictions and PCNs will cause more chaos?
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Clearingaspace · 02/04/2026 23:21

LittleArithmetics · 02/04/2026 22:57

So if someone did not drive and was not very mobile, they would not be able to use a taxi for say a hospital appointment, during these hours. Have I got this right?

A taxi driver i know picked an elderly woman up to take her to A&E and got a fine - I guess the council would say call an ambulance?

stichguru · 02/04/2026 23:16

This is ridiculous.

  1. They should surely start actually fining the parents who park stupidly, not anyone who is parked normally outside a house.
  2. 8am and 9.30 is far longer than it needs to be - if you can't leave your child at school till 8.40 say, and all the children need to go in by 8.50, it only needs to be restricted 8.30-8.50. No-one will park from 8am, move their car elsewhere then at 8.30 (still 10 mins before they can leave their children) walk to school from the new spot and then, go back to their car, move it to the restricted area at 8.50 and sit their before driving off!
hahabahbag · 02/04/2026 23:15

They introduced one here and it lasted less than a term, it simply didn’t work as it caused gridlock across the town and parents still drive and clogged up the next road along

Whatabouttheparcels · 02/04/2026 23:14

thereare4lights · 02/04/2026 22:57

Can't believe so many people think you're being unreasonable. Sounds shit to me!

I know.

I can imagine the outrage from them when their parcels get returned to depot as they were arranged by a computer somewhere to be delivered at a certain time by a delivery driver who’s got it on his list and has been stung before

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WhistPie · 02/04/2026 23:13

We have one of those. It does not cause chaos and we no longer have parents sitting in their cars with their engines idling. Drivers are capable of reading the sign saying it's a school street.

RamblingFar · 02/04/2026 23:09

As a supply teacher I refuse to work in any schools in such zones.

LittleArithmetics · 02/04/2026 23:08

Seems particularly unfair that residents with cars can obviously still access, but someone who doesn't drive, who doesn't generally contribute much to congestion, can't get an occasional taxi.

MerlinsButler · 02/04/2026 23:06

Local tradespeople will just refuse to work at those premises. It’s too inconvenient for them if they need to nip out and get parts etc. and they can’t park for the way if they have lots of gear / equipment. Plus it’s not safe to leave a van loaded with tools / materials out of sight.

Whatabouttheparcels · 02/04/2026 23:02

And it’s 2 PCN cameras on the main road. £70 or £30 if paid within 30 days or whatever it is

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Loubelou71 · 02/04/2026 23:02

Whatabouttheparcels · 02/04/2026 22:57

Agree and I bet many delivery drivers are going to be caught and have to pay the PCN fines themselves

I also recently saw an article where residents were fined in error. I know it's to encourage kids to walk to school but I feel for the working parents who just need to drop and go. I think it'll be on the delivery companies to sort. There must be some way to appeal in those circumstances. I'd like to think so anyway.

rainylake · 02/04/2026 23:01

We have one of these camera zones and it has been a nightmare because it means that the lazy entitled parents just block the corners and pull up onto the pavements right outside the camera controlled zone because they can’t be arsed to park legally and walk 5 minutes extra. So rather than one danger point right outside the school, we have dangerous parking across the whole area. This year I’ve had a scary near miss where we had to inch out into the road with zero visibility at a corner completely blocked by massive SUVs blocking the view of oncoming traffic, and twice had drivers bump up or reverse onto the pavement right where we are walking and then get arsey with me.

Also the Amazon delivery drivers etc don’t know about the restriction as the signage is so shit and confusing, so there is still loads of non local traffic coming through.

And yes I expect it’s crap for people in the zone as their deliveries, carers, etc can’t get in at set times.

The only winners are the council who have made a ton of money out of it.

Whatabouttheparcels · 02/04/2026 23:01

LittleArithmetics · 02/04/2026 22:57

So if someone did not drive and was not very mobile, they would not be able to use a taxi for say a hospital appointment, during these hours. Have I got this right?

Everything and everyone one not a resident is banned

if you have a permanent career (and who has just one visiting) could get a permit but not different ones several times a day

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modgepodge · 02/04/2026 22:59

There’s a few of these near me and the exclusion is for a much shorter time - 8.30-9 or something, similar at the end of the day. I wonder why it’s such a long period? Also as far as I know it’s not PCN enforced either, at one a member of SLT used to go and put cones out and would let some people through - for example I was a supply teacher and arrived after the road was already shut and they let me through.

Whatabouttheparcels · 02/04/2026 22:59

NoSoupForU · 02/04/2026 22:54

I know Parkgate Drive. It would take probably about 50 seconds to walk from one end of it to the other. If youre at the far end of Heathfield or Collingwood then maybe a minute and a half walk from your front door to the end of the exclusion zone. For most people they'd manage to walk that and get in a taxi. You arrange for trades to have arrived before the exclusion. Deliveries you have to take your chances. Local couriers will know the exclusion zones and plan around them.

That’s my point though, if people can walk, like school kids, they are going to all be dropped off 50 seconds away in front of the other school that’s being expanded and just move the issue further along

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Maxme · 02/04/2026 22:58

I expect the result will be the local delivery drivers like evri / postman / supermarkets will quickly learn this themselves and avoid these times. Infrequent national deliveries such as appliances will just randomly get hit by the fine.

As a resident, I would leave that to a conversation between council and delivery driver.

If you employ contractors just let them know up front and they will also just avoid these times.

thereare4lights · 02/04/2026 22:57

Can't believe so many people think you're being unreasonable. Sounds shit to me!

Whatabouttheparcels · 02/04/2026 22:57

Loubelou71 · 02/04/2026 22:54

This has just happened by us and I can't see how it's going to work either. The camera went up and it wasn't publicised so I expect it's going to be chaos.

Agree and I bet many delivery drivers are going to be caught and have to pay the PCN fines themselves

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LittleArithmetics · 02/04/2026 22:57

So if someone did not drive and was not very mobile, they would not be able to use a taxi for say a hospital appointment, during these hours. Have I got this right?

NoSoupForU · 02/04/2026 22:54

I know Parkgate Drive. It would take probably about 50 seconds to walk from one end of it to the other. If youre at the far end of Heathfield or Collingwood then maybe a minute and a half walk from your front door to the end of the exclusion zone. For most people they'd manage to walk that and get in a taxi. You arrange for trades to have arrived before the exclusion. Deliveries you have to take your chances. Local couriers will know the exclusion zones and plan around them.

Whenisitmyturntorest · 02/04/2026 22:54

I wonder if this has happened because of resident complaints but I can see how this can be really restrictive and unfair for elderly or disabled people that rely on taxis or transport from relatives.

Loubelou71 · 02/04/2026 22:54

This has just happened by us and I can't see how it's going to work either. The camera went up and it wasn't publicised so I expect it's going to be chaos.

YourSassyPanda · 02/04/2026 22:53

That’s wild. I wouldn’t like being told when I can and can’t have deliveries to my own house just because I live a few streets away from a school.

Whatabouttheparcels · 02/04/2026 22:52

CallMeDaphne · 02/04/2026 22:51

I think it is an utter disgrace that you are being inconvenienced so that children can have safe streets around their school.

i think the best plan is that you move house immediately. I hear Dubai has excellent parking, and Amazon can deliver 24/7.

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CallMeDaphne · 02/04/2026 22:51

I think it is an utter disgrace that you are being inconvenienced so that children can have safe streets around their school.

i think the best plan is that you move house immediately. I hear Dubai has excellent parking, and Amazon can deliver 24/7.

Whatabouttheparcels · 02/04/2026 22:51

bidon · 02/04/2026 22:45

How dare anyone try and make roads safer for children getting to and from school.

Totally agree it should be made safer and I completely understand when people get annoyed when people block their drives at school time. Absolutely more should be done to stop this

give the lazy school drivers PCNs I’m all for that not the delivery drivers taxis etc

i don’t believe this is the right solution though

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