AIBU to think school street restrictions and PCNs will cause more chaos?

If anyone in the zone is in need of a job, perhaps they should set up as a taxi driver.

we have had this for 5 years in my local area, and i live in a school street. i have to remember to tell trades men to come before 8 or after 9.30, and my kids tutor has to start a lesson at 4.15 so after the 4pm reopening. but i whole heartedly prefer schools streets to the uncivil behaviour of parents who drive their kids to school. it is so much better.

That doesn't answer my question though. Do you live on one of those roads and are you saying that the wrong council is making regulations?

My elderly mum can’t get home by her much needed taxi. It’s completely ridiculous and yet again penalising the people who are law abiding and in her case, go out of her way to make life better and help others. 🤦‍♀️

Looking at that on satellite view on Google, I'm not surprised they've done it. It's a load of cul de sacs and driveways. It must be fucking chaos as a resident trying to leave or enter their property at that time. Or get an amnulance through.

And I honestly fail to see how a delivery driver could deliver at school hours anyway!

Deliveries can be worked around and companies would adapt.

My main worry would be the impact on elderly people/disabled people who rely on taxis. What about morning appointments? Or the elderly person with dementia relying on getting a taxi to daycare in the morning which happens to start at 10am? Or you've pressed your falls pendant and can't get up?

Please can you clarify.

Are you saying that Salford Council are making this change to your residential area, which is outside of their council zone?

This is hugely unfair on the elderly and disabled and absolutely should not be implemented without considering their needs. Has anyone seen an equality impact assessment?

They wanted to do it for my children's school which I live locally enough to, that it would have affected me as well. The street were able to lobby against it as realistically it was a terrible idea from a school perspective as it would have pushed parents onto the main road and caused carnage and been unsafe.

Oh right - I thought it was parked cars not closing off the whole road. I was picturing banning parking on the streets near to school so if you couldn't park for the 10 mins before dropping off the kids and the 10 mins after you'd have to park elsewhere.

If you're a resident then how is it a council near you introducing it and not your council?

It'll still do the kids good to walk further.

How does that work with 8 to 12 and 12 to 6 slots
don’t think I’ve ever ordered anything that has such a specific time slot available

thats massively restrictive I’d be straight on to council
they need to look at the parents arrangements not the residents it’s outrageous

Amd it honestly couldn't be any more obvious that you're an inconvenienced driver pretending to be all concerned "for the residents".

It needs to be far longer than it "needs to be" to work. Even without a school street arrangement thr jostling for prime parking slots starts ridiculously early - especially at the end of the day, the SAHMs play a oneupmanship game arriving as much as half an hour before school ends in order to get one of the few slots right by the gate. In our school streets it's only moving cars that are banned, a legally parked car is fine if it doesn't move, so the period for movement to be banned needs to be at least 90 minutes or people would willingly just wait it out.

I live near a school street and there was absolute uproar when it was announced, but a year or so on it’s actually really lovely to see all the kids walking, cycling, scooting into school many without a parent at quite a young age. Yes some parents still park in neighbouring roads but lots don’t bothered anymore and as someone else pointed out, there’s lots of roads they can choose from so it’s not just one bottleneck.

Honestly, it’s really worth the inconvenience for an hour day or so each day and the school have recently given such amazing feedback about positive changes noticed in mood, attention, attendance, well-being, general health and happiness of their kids since this was introduced it’s surely worth the odd delivery not getting through.

You say delivery drivers wont park and walk but they will if they don't want a fine. It's that simple.

As a resident near a school who is sick of the crappy and obstructive parking, i couldn't honestly care less where it pushes the problem onto. That's their lookout.

Eta. Anyone with disability issues should lobby for the appropriate reasonable adjustment. The q and as show a 5 day turnaround for requests

Yanbu.

School traffic parking a bit further away is the whole point because they will do so in numerous different directions so instead of 200 cars trying to all get down the same residential street within a 10 minute window, the same number of cars get distributed around 8-10 neighbouring streets in all different compass directions and the chaos is less in each street due to being spread thinly over a wider area.

Civilisation will adapt to your various spurious objections. They are not beyond solution. Washing machine companies want to be able to sell to people in school streets. They will start offering 9:30-2:30 delivery slots to people living in school streets. In various other ways people will adapt. We will see more carers and couriers making their rounds by bike. People who aren't disabled and need a taxi can walk between the edge of the school street zone and their front door. People who genuinely need unfettered vehicle access to their door 24/7 will move to live further from a school. It will be find once everyone adapts

It might not be a perfect solution but it solves 95% of the problems of dangerous parking with a broad brush approach. Thank the selfish drivers.

Delivery drivers will need to park and walk. That's their business cost, not yours. A large dishwasher delivery is so rare you just pay the extra fiver for a slot or leave a note at checkout. or write to your council or councillor with proof of delivery and ask for a 15 minute exemption. If you all don't and demonstrate a problem then they may change it.