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Is this a form of abuse?

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Chocolatebuttons88 · 02/04/2026 13:13

I don't know why I want to label this. It probably won't make me feel any better, but I'd like a label all the same.

So, I won't go into all the details, but here are the salient points.

I have a child. I had this child on my own. I then got into a relationship when she was very young. I was with my boyfriend for 3 or 4 years. We never lived together, and my DD never called him "daddy." I have always been truthful with her. I didn't ask this man for any money or help. He would see my daughter (for example, on days out), but provided nothing in terms of day-to-day care. She now has very hazy memories of him.

I finished the relationship almost four years ago for a whole host of reasons.

He couldn't accept this. He spent two years harassing me. I took this to the police several times, and nothing was done about it. He was never violent with me, and so it was decided that they wouldn't pursue it. The harassment included postcards, letters, emails, gifts, turning up at my house and the school, and sending voice recordings. Hundreds and hundreds of them. Maybe over 30 hours of voice recordings were sent to my email. Eventually, he gave up. Or so I thought. I didn't hear anything for a year.

Then, and this is the worst bit, I got a call from the police saying he had acknowledged my child, and he was now on her birth certificate as the father. I am not in the UK. Here, a man can put his name on the birth certificate without the mother's knowledge or consent. My daughter and I are British, but she was born here. Overnight, her nationality changed. He then filed for visitation rights.

By this point, he hadn't seen my daughter in over two years. And he knows he's not the father. But there's absolutely nothing I can do about it. I have to now fight through the courts to get him off. I'm doing this. I put the wheels in motion the moment I found out about it. It will take a long time. Years. In the meantime, the custody/visitation case keeps being postponed by my lawyer, hopefully until we can get him off the birth certificate.

OK... that's enough details. I could go on and on about everything I've had to do to fight this man, but it would make for a long read. My case is good. I have lots of witnesses. I am paying more money than I can afford for a good lawyer. I think I will win. A DNA test will be ordered by the court, and that should be the end of it. However, what I keep coming back to is the idea that this is a form of abuse. A form of staying in control. He is from this country. I'm not. He probably thought I'd lie down and take it. I don't know what his reasons are because I have not spoken to him and will never speak to him again. What I want to do, once I've sorted out my own case, is try to stop this from happening to other women. It's a kind of state-sanctioned abuse in a way, isn't it? What can I do to make people more aware of it? I know he won't be punished for what he's done. He can say he's acting in good faith, he thinks he's the father etc. Men here are allowed to do this. The very best I can hope for is that the birth certificate is rectified, and he can't do it again.

I suppose I want answers. I want to know if this is something the women in this country should know more about. Should I keep fighting after my personal fight is over?

Please be gentle with me. I'm still living this.

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sunshine244 · 03/04/2026 09:21

Sending hugs sympathy. My ex is rhe father of my children but numerous uears later he is still intense in causing endless issues. It is all carefully below the threshold of police to take it serious. Low level stalking. Reporting me to social services and police, causing issues via school or on social media etc. He will do one strategy for say 6 months then move to something else. It is abusive as us your situation.

Wiseplumant · 03/04/2026 09:20

This sounds awful, it is definitely abuse, seemingly backed up by the law of the country you are living in. I hope it is resolved as soon as possible and you can get on with your lives.❤

Chocolatebuttons88 · 03/04/2026 09:02

JMSA · 03/04/2026 08:04

Oh, you poor thing. What an incredibly stressful and frustrating time for you Flowers I feel rage towards this arsehole on your behalf!
Sorry, I haven’t read the full thread, but couldn’t you cut your losses and move back home?
Good luck x

I don't really know where home is back in the UK. I wouldn't know where to go. I think I'd find it hard. I have no family over there. I could sell up here, but it wouldn't get me very far in the UK. My daughter is bilingual, she's settled here, we have friends, I have a business. I don't want to be forced out of our life here because of this man. But then I sometimes think, will he ever leave us alone? When I get this sorted, what next? What's he capable of? Maybe I could go back, change my name by deed poll. He'd never find us. But I'm also scared to start again. It's daunting. Since he did this, he hasn't contacted me. He hasn't been to the house, called, or emailed. I didn't find out about it until a couple of months after he did it. But on the day he did it, I later worked out, he left two roses leaning against my front door. It's like the stuff you'd see in a film. I hate him so much. I also blame myself a lot. Nobody liked him. My friends all told me they didn't like him, and I ignored it. So, I blame myself a lot. There were so many red flags looking back. SO many. I don't know what I was playing at.

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EllaPaella · 03/04/2026 08:28

I think it’s coercive control abuse as well as stalking and harassment. However a country that has a legal system that allows any Tom, Dick or Harry to put themselves onto a child’s birth certificate with no DNA proof of paternity doesn’t sound like a country that are going to help a woman in an abusive situation unfortunately. Absolutely shocking.

JMSA · 03/04/2026 08:04

Oh, you poor thing. What an incredibly stressful and frustrating time for you Flowers I feel rage towards this arsehole on your behalf!
Sorry, I haven’t read the full thread, but couldn’t you cut your losses and move back home?
Good luck x

Chocolatebuttons88 · 03/04/2026 08:01

thanks2 · 03/04/2026 07:01

has he ever done something like ancestory dna? If yes, then if your daughter also did this, it would prove very soon he is not related to her.

It's illegal here to do it.

I've done it. I did it back in the UK. I have DNA tests proving he's not the father. I can't use them, though. They don't count for anything here. My lawyer has put it in my file as supporting evidence. BUT, the judge can ignore them. Here, only judge-appointed DNA tests count.

If the judge requests DNA, I'm fine. It's over. But it's the getting there that's so painful. The threat of him potentially getting access to her in the meantime. The cost is ridiculous. And I won't get that back. I don't really care about the money at this point. It's annoying, but it is what it is. I think what I care most about is that he won't get in any trouble for this. He will never suffer like I've suffered and like my daughter has. She doesn't fully understand, but she knows I'm stressed and sad.

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Chocolatebuttons88 · 03/04/2026 07:54

JeremiaBoogle · 03/04/2026 07:00

I think you will need to contest it in court. Especially as it looks as if you are going to court anyway with him looking for visitation rights. Plus is there a time limit on contesting?

Yes, I'm contesting at the same time. We had to move really quickly. It now means that the visitation case has been postponed. The next visitation hearing is in May, so we'll have to ask to postpone it again. There's a limit on contesting. 5 years. I put the wheels into motion the same day. I also got a will written up to say that I want her to go to my brother in the event og my death. I'm so scared that something could happen to me before this gets sorted, and then she's his. I know my brother would fight just as hard as I'm fighting, but it doesn't bear thinking about. I've had to tell the school. They've been really good about it. Amazing. I have good people around me. But I think my friends are a bit bored with it now, which I understand. But I live it every day. Every day. The legal system here is infuriating. I understand. He is being given the exact same rights as I am. That's the way it is. Under the law, he's the father. I could be a mother trying to stop him from seeing his child. So, they look into both sides very carefully. But I daydream about running him over. I know that's not right.

There are also inheritance laws here. She is now his next of kin and would inherit everything upon his death. There's no way out of that for him now. The law doesn't want me to stop that for her. By contesting, I'm depriving her of her right to inherit. Hence, she has to have her own lawyer. The whole system is unbelievable, and I'm so angry about it. I'm so angry.

I should point out that the average person here wouldn't know this was possible. The doctor, the school staff... all the official people I've had to tell... none of them believed it was possible.

I suppose the system is banking on the fact that most men wouldn't do this.

Honestly, I could go on about this all day.

You've all been so kind. Thank you so much. It feels good to know that people out there care.

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thanks2 · 03/04/2026 07:01

has he ever done something like ancestory dna? If yes, then if your daughter also did this, it would prove very soon he is not related to her.

JeremiaBoogle · 03/04/2026 07:00

I think you will need to contest it in court. Especially as it looks as if you are going to court anyway with him looking for visitation rights. Plus is there a time limit on contesting?

rainbowstardrops · 03/04/2026 06:58

Bloody hell, he sounds deranged! And what sort of country allows a man to add themselves to a birth certificate without any proof of being the actual father? I’m not sure I’d want to raise my daughter in a country that gives so much power and control to a man.

LottieMeDownAgain · 03/04/2026 06:30

Oh and you should use a LLM to advise you while you try to navigate this. Many bad hallucinations for the unwary but it can also give you the upper hand if used carefully. Use it as your guide/advisor

LottieMeDownAgain · 03/04/2026 06:27

Yes it’s abuse. Yes you should raise awareness of it in the country. You should get your own situation sorted first then go to the press, write a book, talk to every women’s organization there is there.

Good luck. You sound smart and strong. It’s probably meant for you to change this for other women. Get yourself sorted first though. Get yourself and your daughter safe.

NeedingASafeSpace · 03/04/2026 06:06

if you can, get back to the UK and please get a solicitor. There is so much free legal help for you here

Chocolatebuttons88 · 03/04/2026 06:03

BelBridge · 02/04/2026 23:33

It absolutely is abuse OP. He is trying to control you by demanding access to your child. It’s utterly sick. Can you not take this back to the police as another form of harassment?

I can't go to the police because what he's done is legal. Any man can go into any town hall here with a piece of ID and say they're the father of your child. If there isn't a father on the birth certificate, they get put on it there and then. And that's just the end of it. I have to now prove he isn't. I KNOW he isn't the father. He KNOWS he isn't. But that doesn't matter. At first, I thought he'd leave it at that - which was bad enough. But about two months later, I got a court summons for visitation rights. He's taking me to court, offering child support and everything, saying I'm refusing to let him see his child. The works.

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BelBridge · 02/04/2026 23:33

It absolutely is abuse OP. He is trying to control you by demanding access to your child. It’s utterly sick. Can you not take this back to the police as another form of harassment?

Liveshives · 02/04/2026 21:21

You poor woman.
Absolutely horrific.
Yes it is abuse, and coercive abuse too.
Wishing you speedy success.

ThisIsTheAge · 02/04/2026 20:44

This is absolutely coercive controlling behaviour. It's absolute madness but I believe it's happening to you.

When it's all sorted yes I do think you should write a book. It would be cathartic and act as closure. Also, it would warn other women of the possibility. And a section on what to do, when and in what order to help anyone else in the same situation. So they don't waste time or money, they can speed up their resolution by learning from your experience.

I wish you the very best of luck because this man is evil.

Itsyourcircussodontusemyclowns · 02/04/2026 20:14

Doggymummar · 02/04/2026 13:50

Germany Netherlands France all allow this it's bonkers. My friend is going through similar with the French father of her child. He has followed her to the UK now

Edited

In the Netherlands it's most certainly not allowed for a man to up and decide to put his name on a birth certificate.

Chocolatebuttons88 · 02/04/2026 19:32

I don't want to rock the boat right now. I'm just going to have to see it through. But I really would like to tell my story afterwards.

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FalseSpring · 02/04/2026 17:42

I sympathise completely but my own situation was slightly different. I had both my children abroad. We were not married but he was named on the birth certicates. He got abusive and I wanted to leave and a good friend told me that he could stop me taking the children. I called the local women's refuge and they confirmed that as the children's father he could make a claim to keep them there. They advised me to not alert him to the fact that I was leaving. I waited until he was at work and then got myself and the children on a flight back to the UK before he realised we were gone. Once in the UK I had to apply immediately for a residence order that was granted. It was a very frightening time and although he appealled the order he got nowhere and he was only given very limited supervised access rights (he made the mistake of being abusive to my lawyer in court!).

It is really important that more women are aware that problems can arise if you have children abroad. I hope you manage to sort this out and raise awareness of the issues.

Zippidydoodah · 02/04/2026 17:41

It is abuse, imo. Control.

What an absolutely appalling, despicable man he is. I wish you all the luck.

EwwPeople · 02/04/2026 17:39

Fable2024 · 02/04/2026 16:37

Seriously? You can’t see the relevance of the actual father pops up and says… I’m the daddy??

Frankly.. at this point? No. He is not on the birth certificate and a DNA test would still be required as proof , except it would be even lengthier with a second man involved. The courts wouldn’t just tale his word for it.And then OP would have to possibly contend with another man just adding himself to the BC, and this will have proof.

cosimarama · 02/04/2026 17:33

I wouldn’t publicise your experience about the drawbacks of the country for women unless you move back to the UK. You may have lived half your life in this country but is it the kind of place that will favour a foreign woman over a man born there. Especially given your child is a citizen there and he has a law background and presumably decent funds to pursue his madness. I’d check again if there is a chance you could really be extradited without a dna test that would prove him to be a liar and if unlikely, move back and immediately raise your case with local UK MPs etc.

Doggymummar · 02/04/2026 17:23

notatinydancer · 02/04/2026 14:04

But the French man is the father , this man isn’t so it’s a completely different situation.

I meant the stalking and custody battle

Sixpence39 · 02/04/2026 17:23

Swiftie1878 · 02/04/2026 16:36

Have you thought about going to the press with your story? If you can get some media traction it may help to speed things up.

You'd need to consult your lawyer before doing this, posting on socials etc as theres always a small chance it could somehow harm your case.