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Who was in the wrong here?

137 replies

EwwPeople · 02/04/2026 12:34

I have my own opinions and bias on this so I’ll try to make this as fair and even as possible .

A while ago , we had a leaving do for a colleague. Early in the evening, with everyone present A did a big speech, lovely, some laughs, everyone clapped at the end , all good. Towards the end of the evening, a lot of people had left already, B also did a shorter speech. Again, some laughs, lovely, claps , all good.

However, A took great offence to this, and the night ended with a row.

The atmosphere is still tense in the office due to all of this.

One side is , that it was incredibly rude /attention seeking to do a second speech. So this would be YABU.

The other side is that it’s not that big of a deal, and even if it was the reaction to it was completely over the top. YANBU

I’m trying to keep this fairly vague so as not to be outing , and also like I originally said to keep things fair and not take sides, but I’m happy to add more context/detail if needed.

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Tacohill · 02/04/2026 13:55

I think it’s pretty common to make a second speech after a few drinks.

Tacohill · 02/04/2026 13:54

A sounds like an absolute twat who thinks they’re more important than anyone else.

No wonder the colleague ie leaving.

BillieWiper · 02/04/2026 13:49

TheNorns · 02/04/2026 13:42

😀

‘Margo, just remember it was I, A, who first described just how devastated we were to be losing your chiseled good looks from Dunder Mifflin!’

Haha. Love it! 🤣

EwwPeople · 02/04/2026 13:48

QPZM · 02/04/2026 13:21

Actually this is a better way of putting it 👍

I suspect the OP is B and so wouldn't admit if there was a bit of rivalry between the two.

If I was B I would’ve said exactly what A said and did when she started on B. That’s would’ve been enough to sway opinions one side, but that’s not what I wanted.

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TikTokker · 02/04/2026 13:48

i think you’re B. It was a bit unnecessary but not that deep. A needs to grow up.

MargaretThursday · 02/04/2026 13:46

I can think of a couple of people who would absolutely make sure they gave an unplanned speech at the end... it would be them being attention seeking and trying to make the event about them.

Other people might do it spontaneously and it cone across as natural, so I suppose how was it done.

Naturally, with something coming up and B saying "I remember the time... and everyone falling quiet because what he was saying was good. Maybe then he felt he had to continue etc.
Or him standing up and saying "actually I want to say something, all be quiet and listen."

My suspicion, on the basis he clearly argued about it was that he was more of the latter. Otherwise he'd have apologised and said he hadn't planned it, but sorry it came over that way.

EwwPeople · 02/04/2026 13:46

TheNorns · 02/04/2026 13:23

Yes, you can imagine the person leaving going home from the party very relieved s/he wasn’t going to have to deal with A and B’s dramas any more…

Yup. The managers are pretending it never happened, but there’s quite a split in the team (side A, side B and can’t you all just get over it side) and an awful atmosphere in the office. I just don’t see the big deal.

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SunnyRedSnail · 02/04/2026 13:43

Person A is being ridiculous.

A leaving do is a place for speeches. If A and B both knew the person leaving and clearly had different points to make then they can both say stuff.

A is being a dick and needs to apologise.

properidiot · 02/04/2026 13:42

Sounds like there's some historical beef with A and B. Same role and same level of management within a company can cause all sorts of problems with jealousy, competitiveness and general ill feeling between them - there will be things professionally they won't agree on which will fuel the flames.

A does sound like a bit of a dick tbh but it depends if it was arranged for A to do a speech and it was all agreed. That said, if it's a party then anyone should be able to say their bit if they want to - so I don't think B did anything wrong

Sounds like A and B just don't get on! It'll blow over eventually!

TheNorns · 02/04/2026 13:42

BillieWiper · 02/04/2026 13:39

They had a physical fight over leaving speeches?! For who? Margot Robbie?!

That sounds utterly pathetic and best forgotten about. Why on earth would it be offensive for more than one person to do a speech? Unless B's speech was slagging off A and their speech/work/character.

😀

‘Margo, just remember it was I, A, who first described just how devastated we were to be losing your chiseled good looks from Dunder Mifflin!’

MikeRafone · 02/04/2026 13:41

It was rude and f B to do an impromptu second speech. It’s sending a message that the first speech by A wasn’t good enough and so they had to step in and help out by putting on another speech.

EwwPeople · 02/04/2026 13:41

SomethingUniqueThisTime · 02/04/2026 13:25

If they are similar levels, and have similar roles and relationship with the leaver sounds like there may already be tension between the two. To me it feels like B had their nose put out of joint because A had made a speech and wanted to make a point by doing the second one.
It reflects badly on both of them - grownups would normally discuss who was going to make the speech and certainly not make a big thing about it afterwards.

I’m not sure if there was a conversation about who would give a speech. If there was, I wasn’t asked /part of it, but it’s very possible that some colleagues agreed A would do it on behalf of everyone. The person leaving did jokingly say to B “you owe me a speech” and B replied with “I haven’t had enough to drink yet!” and both laughed during the night. A wasn’t around for that conversation though.

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BillieWiper · 02/04/2026 13:39

They had a physical fight over leaving speeches?! For who? Margot Robbie?!

That sounds utterly pathetic and best forgotten about. Why on earth would it be offensive for more than one person to do a speech? Unless B's speech was slagging off A and their speech/work/character.

Trusttheawesome · 02/04/2026 13:36

But it’s a leading do… loads of people speak at leaving do’s.
A sounds like an idiot.

Mangelwurzelfortea · 02/04/2026 13:35

On the face of it, unless there's more of a back story, A is being a precious twat.

rainbowsandraspberrygin · 02/04/2026 13:33

Reminds me of the speeches in bridesmaids! 😆

Changingplace · 02/04/2026 13:33

Shedmistress · 02/04/2026 12:44

Who said A was the boss of who gives speeches? I'd suggest A needs to chill the fuck out.

Agreed, who in their right mind cares that someone else gave a second speech at someone’s leaving do?

It’s a complete non event, A is ridiculous - do they have form for being really hard work? I feel sorry for the persons who’s leaving do it was to have this nonsense overshadow it with a silly row.

RoyalPenguin · 02/04/2026 13:33

Wasn't there a plan beforehand about who would give the speech? In my experience of this kind of thing, the person giving the speech wants to prepare a little in advance and think of some nice things to say. And if there's a card or gift they would have it with them to hand over.

If it was clear that A would give the speech then I can see why A is annoyed. If it was completely spontaneous then A is unreasonable (although I still think it's a bit weird to have a second speech).

Mymanyellow · 02/04/2026 13:32

Had B had a drink by the time they got to do their speech? My advice , for what’s it’s worth, is to ignore the pair of them.

Lilyundervalley · 02/04/2026 13:30

Bringmebacktothe90s · 02/04/2026 13:18

Unless B made it out like As speech was bad. Then A is in the wrong here and has made the persons leaving party all about themselves. Rather than just thinking it’s lovely how much people care about the leaver by doing another speech. Everyone has a right to say goodbye ffs. A is in the wrong.

Exactly! The person who matters is the person who is leaving. They probably were chuffed to have another speech. A making it all about themselves is totally inappropriate unless there is a backstory.

AgnesMcDoo · 02/04/2026 13:28

A is a drama llama

5128gap · 02/04/2026 13:28

I'm in the middle of the two options. Yes it was unecessary and attention seeking of B to do a second speech. Anything they wanted so badly to say to the exiting colleague not covered in As speech could have been said one to one.
However the appropriate response from A would be a bit of an eye roll that B had to get in on it, but say nothing. Causing a row and bad atmosphere over this is very childish.

BeeCucumber · 02/04/2026 13:26

Sounds like B knew giving a speech would piss A off and that’s why they did it.

SomethingUniqueThisTime · 02/04/2026 13:25

If they are similar levels, and have similar roles and relationship with the leaver sounds like there may already be tension between the two. To me it feels like B had their nose put out of joint because A had made a speech and wanted to make a point by doing the second one.
It reflects badly on both of them - grownups would normally discuss who was going to make the speech and certainly not make a big thing about it afterwards.

TheNorns · 02/04/2026 13:23

ComeOnPhilEarlySpringPlease · 02/04/2026 13:18

This.

What a way to ruin a nice evening with petty squabbling, point scoring, one upmanship.
No idea what etiquette would dictate, probably no need for a second speech at all but nor is it a big deal. Both sound like they are competitive or cannot read the room tbh.

Edited

Yes, you can imagine the person leaving going home from the party very relieved s/he wasn’t going to have to deal with A and B’s dramas any more…