Is MN feeding unhealthy attitudes towards men?

Or a step-mother.

Is MN feeding unhealthy attitudes towards men?

No, men are feeding unhealthy attitudes towards themselves...

Have you seen how many woman are assaulted and murdered each year by men? It's currently being called a National Emergency.

Yes OP, Mumsnet has created a dangerous place where all of us with our little lady brains gather to destroy the men.

Well yes, of course it is. I've even started to get tiktoks about this attitude in a joky way!

That's MN though so of course you are going to be told you're wrong.!

As a man who occasionally posts on here I do notice how many posters report negative experiences with men in their lives, and I find it disappointing that they and others sometimes seem to accept that this is the way men are. It does appear that low expectations of male behaviour are endemic.

I don't think we can jump to the conclusion that this is down to Mumsnet feeding unhealthy attitudes towards us men though. Might it not be that far too many really are a bit crap, and women see this and understandably draw conclusions about male behaviour from their own lived experience?

Maybe the most effective way for us men to persuade women to see us in a better light is for us to behave better?

Nope.

Not seen this.

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I am a long-term single 44 yo woman who enjoys good sex, and believes everyone who wants it, should be having it. I also love men and I'm surrounded by many good ones.

I do agree though, that unsupportive men who will watch you (wittingly or unwittingly) break your back, while they lead an easy a life as possible, should not be facilitated in relationships. And so many (not all) MN husbands, or at least the ones featured in posts, are utterly unappealing.

Unwashed, erectile dysfunction, untreated medical issues, cannot maintain a clean living space, leaves shit strewn all over the floor, never cooks, barely earns, doesn't engage with the children, never cleans, never reads a letter, never books an appointment... who wants to be saddled with that? My dad would think he'd failed me if he knew I was tolerating that madness.

I think you’ll find that men are feeding unhealthy attitudes towards men.

Mumsnet only lets rip on the poor behaviour of women when the victim of that behaviour is another woman. When the victim is a man there will be endless attempts to find a way to blame him for her behaviour.

Ah. The world is being held hostage by a bunch of tantrumming male toddlers, but women are too emotional and shouldn't be given the vote.

Surprised also, nothing to do with this thread, that people talk a lot about this or that 'board'

I simply look at 'active' and respond to things that catch my eye, I dont even know what category they're in hafl the time.

Interesting that OP commends the Sex board for being the best part of the site

Lots of menz there.

The bacon crab thread is a good example of this. A quarter of voters think it is ok for a woman to send her husband to a pub to wash his hands because she thinks that he should. Or the one where a women wants to say her SD's have to share a bedroom so she can have a guest room. No room for discussion in either case - just a presumption that the womans view is right. (And I'm a women before anyone asks)

Or someone posts a scenario they aren't happy with.

People respond with their opinions

Its an Internet forum. I dont think there is an agenda, just what I read on here there are lots of vulnerable women who cannot set proper boundaries, have low values and do not value themselves, then come on her bemoaning how shit*y their man treats them and others respond.

I feel.it says more about people who would rather be with ANYONE rather than being alone and that is frightening.

Wheres all the independent women gone?!

Who prefers the sex boards

Yes, but MN in recent times has said it's for both men and women. No longer a women's site.

Interesting that OP commends the Sex board for being the best part of the site. Many other posters say it's full of sleazy men. I haven't looked myself.

I agree AIBU is often very reactive, but other boards offer great support.

And no understanding of the basic dynamic that men tend to do their damage with actions, but are more than matched by women who do their damage verbally and/or covertly.

SFW.

Men are seen to be babies who can't do anything for themselves, and need to have someone pre plan and organise their lives, but god forbid they fall into the pattern of behaviour of expecting their female partner to do these things for them, as that's what they've always done

I see the opposite. Women saying men are capable and should not be able to hide behind incapability.

Though I do think the attitude in society needs to focus on the good in men. No wonder young men have turned to Andrew Tate who tells them they are capable and can achieve when society is telling them they are toxic and the problem. Its more constructive to hold men to high standards than tell them they are already shit because they are men.

The classic answer on here to "my partner is wonderful" is to just say he isnt actually wonderful, your bar is low etc etc

I can’t agree with any of your examples and I’ve been here since time began. It has however made me more of a feminist and lifted the blinkers off when it comes to the patriarchy. That would have happened anyway once my reproductive organs stopped working so it only moved that forward about five years.

Totally agree with you. And you only have to read certain newspapers and websites to know that the media see Mumsnet as very powerful, and the general consensus of society

I think there is definitely a view that in no circumstances is the woman every wrong.

Unless its a mother in law.

I'm male and 99% of the time you are completely wrong. The 1% get shot down. So YABU.

I'm actually shocked at what many women put up with. I know there are many dreadful female partners but the way that women come on here and ask if they right to leave the guy who's cheated on them multiple times, doesn't work, does drugs and does f all with the kids/home astounds me. That women can be conditioned to think they could be wrong to do it