Is MN feeding unhealthy attitudes towards men?

Absolutely, you got in before me. What a load of bullshit!!

If you've been saving that anecdote since the 1930s (lunatic asylum..?) then I think you've chosen a poor place to unveil it. The posts on here are almost all a calm and measured exchange of views on the topic. In fact yours is probably the most hyperbolic I've seen.

This made me burst out laughing. Thanks for relieving a little tension in here!

I agree with that - my FIL is 86 and on his own now- he’s a very lovely man but when he comes to our house or we go to his he never once offers to put the kettle on or take his pots to the sink after a meal - it very much seems that it’s woman’s job to run around after him ‘if ‘ one is present - yet on his own he has nice meals and a lovely clean house , does all his washing etc - it’s if once a woman is present then she will do the donkey work

Women do not have equality in many areas

• I agree with this : which areas do you think are the worst equality-wise?

Yes, but it is worth remembering that the way women think about men is entirely informed by the way they have been treated by men.

A long time ago I knew a man who had been a nurse in a lunatic asylum. He told me the there were certain trigger words that would get the patients jumping around screaming, shouting and frothing at the mouth. To amuse themselves on otherwise boring night shifts the nurses would shout the trigger words into the wards, then stand back and watch the resulting pandemonium.

This thread is the MN equivalent.

That's true. To be fair there's lots of threads about awful FILs too, but MILs may get criticised more as they may be more likely to be intervening in his grandkids should be brought up, so more likely to clash.

Yes I had post natal depression at the time.

The findings of the study are published in the Scientific Reports journal.

Yes, I mean that IS a kind of 'girls are always in the right' attitude which could ironically reinforce Andrew Tate's message that the world is against men.

You will have not seen posts maligning ALL women in responses to the actions of women in an OP no. Of course you wouldn't, when most of the posters will be women themselves and are not going to generalise in a way that includes them.
What you will see is strong attacks made against subsets of women based on generalisations and stereotypes. Older women (rude), Mothers in law (needy, interfering), school gate mums (cliquey), teenage girls (mean, worse than boys) female colleagues (back stabbing) etc.
Ime this is equally as prevalent as any generalisations made about men on the site.

Seems to be a few categories on here.

Absolute saints who earn a great salary do loads of housework and child care.and good looking and great in bed. (this is a miniscule percentage)

Other end of scale absolute swines

Others pretty useless at nearly everything and just a general nuisance who should pack his bags. (Seems to be quite a lot of these.)

Do you think that Mumsnet is leading to an increase in women being violent towards men? Or an increase in women murdering men?

I remember a particular thread that made me feel very uncomfortable and overtly had more of the views that Ive seen over other threads but were less overt on those other threads

It was about an OP whose daughter had beaten up her brother. OP was proud of this because she said that the brother had pushed or hit the daughter first. As it turned out, he was defending himself from her (younger but bigger sister) in quite rough play. I never know if these things are all made up stories and you can never question it if you doubt it otherwise you get deleted, but not only was OP pleased with the daughters aggression, the vast vast majority of posters on that thread had this kid down as some mini Andrew Tate who 'wouldnt be using his misogyny again having had it kicked out of him by the sister'. Despite the fact that she had been the aggressor from the start

I mean at least wait until they're 18 before you really hate on them!!

I find the sex board users the most realistic and down to earth about both sexes

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If a woman in her forties has sexual dysfunction and she refuses to engage with medical advice, dietary or physical changes, etc; she's a problem too.

That is not a lack of understanding or compassion, just intolerance for poor excuses. If you do not care enough to engage with anything that will help to improve circumstances, you're short changing your partner, to the detriment of the relationship.

To answer your title, no.

I think Mumsnet does bring awareness to the negative ways in which men behave, and as always, people complain about the negative more than they praise the positive. But there's often mention of really lovely DHs, so I don't think it's all doom and gloom - it's usually fairly balanced, for the internet.

It also highlights (often unintentionally) the sadly low standards and blindness to bad behaviour and abuse that many women have, and the way they cling onto relationships with terrible men.

I read threads on Mumsnet and they just make me think how glad I am, in a world of rather awful men, to have found a very decent, good one. We support each other, make each other very happy, and work amazingly well as a team in life.

I think if you find you're thinking differently about your husband because of what you read on here, maybe it's either highlighting issues you have niggling under the surface that you haven't wanted to face up to, or you're a little suggestible and may need to step away.

You also appear to be saying that (somehow) women complaining about men's bad behaviour is why men behave badly, and why the bar for men is getting lower (?), which is both nonsensical and amusingly misogynistic.

MNers rarely hold back from saying what they think of shitty behaviour from women.

This is true, but I personally have never seen anybody saying "Women are rubbish/women are just useless/why do women do this?/I hate women" in response to a post about one/a few specific women who have behaved appallingly.

I think that, by dismissing all men en masse as useless/nasty/selfish/terrible people, as well as being unfair to the decent ones, it also gives an automatic free pass to the shitty ones who indeed should be held to account for their actions and behaviours - as though they couldn't possibly be expected to be any better, because men are all just inherently dreadful and they can't help it, bless 'em.

I find there is a lot of black-and-white, simplistic and emotionally-biased thinking, not just when it comes to men but in general.

April's Day Fool thread.

It comes from decades of being on the receiving end of shitty treatment from men and witnessing other women also being treated badly by men. It doesn’t come from nowhere!

Sorry I don't know how to respond directly to a few people who responded to me. Firstly, thanks for the respectful tone and not jumping on me for having differing views (was actually a little anxious when I saw I'd been responded to directly!) Clearly I'm a Reddit novice as I didn't understand half of the terminology you were using! I've never come across the vile stuff you referred to but I don't doubt it's there. When I log on, I see a stream of posts about personal finance, films and tv, travel, parenting, local news etc. Basically the things that interest me. I notice if someone says something that comes across as insulting or abusive there, it gets down voted and kind of disappears. Where there's a discussion about e.g. how a co-parent has done something wrong, it doesn't automatically descend into a feeding frenzy about how awful that person is. But just to back up what some of your are saying, I referred back to the study on male / female hate speech - and it was actually based on male and female hating forums that are posted on Reddit! Anyway, on Mumsnet, I see lots of discussions with a general undertone that men are useless, pathetic, stupid, manipulative, a waste of space etc I guess if I saw women discussed the same way it would make me feel quite disgusted. I wonder whether this is part of the global trend that has emerged the last decade or so of divisive politics pitting the old against the young, men against women, native against foreign etc. Maybe I'm reading too much into it?!