Is MN feeding unhealthy attitudes towards men?

After giving it more thought, in simple terms, it feels like women here are at odds with each other-one group against another-fueling constant online hostility with no end in sight. Women who work outside the home strongly dislike mothers who work from home, while working moms look down on women who don’t work at all. Women under 40 clash with those over 50, and the same cycle plays out over other issues. In online spaces, women don’t seem to treat each other any better than they treat men when making comparisons.

Going back to the topic of mothers here having negative feelings toward men, I can’t help but wonder about their sons, if they have any. Are these boys treated well? Are their mothers encouraging them to be more like girls? Are they raising and educating them in a way that lets them grow into the people their mothers truly want them to be?

I agree that MN perpetuates group hate towards men. If it was a men’s site it would have been shut down by now.

Black men do more housework/childcare? I wonder if there's been any studies? The Guardian has a piece, for one.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/feb/06/black-men-best-britain-sharing-housework

Why might this be, I wonder?

Do you think it's possible women are often more attracted to tall men because of evolutionary reasons? I hate it when people explain everything with evopsych but it probably plays some role

Because this site is mostly white people and this type of attitude towards men seems pervasive in middle classed white women. As a Black woman, I don't hear this spoken about like that in Black households. Either women are happier with how labour is divided, however it is divided, and/or the men do more. From my experience, the men do more than what is being described in these threads for certain.

I think the idea is that we are attracted to tall, outgoing, confident men because the patriarchal society has convinced us that men should be strong leaders, and women weak and fragile and in need of protection, and that these ideas are to our detriment because they keep us in a subordinate position.
However, my view is that the only people who really suffer from this particular manifestation of patriarchy are men who don't fit the masculine ideal, and I'm not overly concerned about that in all honesty.
Partly because the impact is exaggerated. Short men do get dates, they just maybe have a smaller dating pool than tall ones, and can't get any woman they want.
Partly because I think its a bit of a cheek to set up a society in a way that benefits some men then ask women to make sure that the men it doesn't benefit don't lose out.

After over a decade and multiple username changes on Mumsnet, it’s apparent that the community includes countless women, mothers, and others who seem to hold negative feelings toward men, including their partners, husbands, sons, and other male relatives or friends.

To make matters worse, there’s a strong and influential anti–stay-at-home mothers movement on the site that shares its views widely.

Another observation is the noticeable ageism toward women over 50.

In short, there are certain groups of people that are clearly disliked.

After giving it more thought, in simple terms, it feels like women here are at odds with each other-one group against another-fueling constant online hostility with no end in sight. Women who work outside the home strongly dislike mothers who work from home, while working moms look down on women who don’t work at all. Women under 40 clash with those over 50, and the same cycle plays out over other issues. In online spaces, women don’t seem to treat each other any better than they treat men when making comparisons.

Going back to the topic of mothers here having negative feelings toward men, I can’t help but wonder about their sons, if they have any. Are these boys treated well? Are their mothers encouraging them to be more like girls? Are they raising and educating them in a way that lets them grow into the people their mothers truly want them to be?

After giving it more thought, in simple terms, it feels like women here are at odds with each other-one group against another-fueling constant online hostility with no end in sight. Women who work outside the home strongly dislike mothers who work from home, while working moms look down on women who don’t work at all. Women under 40 clash with those over 50, and the same cycle plays out over other issues. In online spaces, women don’t seem to treat each other any better than they treat men when making comparisons.

Going back to the topic of mothers here having negative feelings toward men, I can’t help but wonder about their sons, if they have any. Are these boys treated well? Are their mothers encouraging them to be more like girls? Are they raising and educating them in a way that lets them grow into the people their mothers truly want them to be?

You do realise we don't know if you are a man either..

After giving it more thought, in simple terms, it feels like women here are at odds with each other-one group against another-fueling constant online hostility with no end in sight. Women who work outside the home strongly dislike mothers who work from home, while working moms look down on women who don’t work at all. Women under 40 clash with those over 50, and the same cycle plays out over other issues. In online spaces, women don’t seem to treat each other any better than they treat men when making comparisons.

Going back to the topic of mothers here having negative feelings toward men, I can’t help but wonder about their sons, if they have any. Are these boys treated well? Are their mothers encouraging them to be more like girls? Are they raising and educating them in a way that lets them grow into the people their mothers truly want them to be?

After giving it more thought, in simple terms, it feels like women here are at odds with each other-one group against another-fueling constant online hostility with no end in sight. Women who work outside the home strongly dislike mothers who work from home, while working moms look down on women who don’t work at all. Women under 40 clash with those over 50, and the same cycle plays out over other issues. In online spaces, women don’t seem to treat each other any better than they treat men when making comparisons.

Going back to the topic of mothers here having negative feelings toward men, I can’t help but wonder about their sons, if they have any. Are these boys treated well? Are their mothers encouraging them to be more like girls? Are they raising and educating them in a way that lets them grow into the people their mothers truly want them to be?

Because this site is mostly white people and this type of attitude towards men seems pervasive in middle classed white women. As a Black woman, I don't hear this spoken about like that in Black households. Either women are happier with how labour is divided, however it is divided, and/or the men do more. From my experience, the men do more than what is being described in these threads for certain.

Can I ask you @Grtscott do you feel the same reading the newspaper, watching the news? Pages after page of men going to prison for murder, male pattern violence in wars they’ve started, violence on the streets, rape and sexual assault, one of today’s I saw was a man convicted of training his dog to do sex acts on him, a boy who murdered a 30 something year old man etc etc or is it something particularly about women speaking up about bad relationships that really triggers you?

You do realise we don't know if you are a man either..

Namechanged for this thread due to sadsacks who go back and check if the poster has posted before, and if so, what they've said.

I've had 5 DMs, yes. I'm not sure that says anything besides 5 people who don't feel they can post their views on a public thread because their opinions go against the grain. I was surprised to find any if I'm honest. People should feel free to post their thoughts directly to the thread but their prior experience of other posters has seemingly left them uncomfortable to do so.

A website like Reddit or Pistonheads doesn't have a figurehead like Justine is for MN. I suspect those sites don't have the opportunity to interview/post questions to government ministers on their forums like MN do, although as a non user of both, I can't say that as a certainty.

Really?

You are familiar with all the men's sites advocating actual violence towards women which are very much still there then?

I think either you are a liar or you don't know much about the internet.

Plenty of them feed into it. There are plenty of men who ridicule men for being less stereotypically masculine. And men who deem tall, broad women as “mannish”.