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To think millions of litres of fuel shouldn't be wasted on sending a rocket to the moon

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Viviennemary · 31/03/2026 22:55

With this current fuel crisis it's total madness sending a rocket to the moon. What is the point. Nobody is even going to land on the moon. Doubt therei s any oil on the moon.

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PottingBench · 02/04/2026 14:15

ProjectHailMary · 02/04/2026 12:37

Enjoy your solipsism.

Speaking from one's own point of view is a different thing from solipsism.

Having my own view on things doesn't mean I exist entirely in my own world.
I'm very much part of society but don't chose to speak on its behalf.

I don't expect everyone to share my view. In fact I know they don't.
Live and let live.

It's very relaxing. You should try it.

Goldenbear · 02/04/2026 13:32

ArtemisMission · 02/04/2026 10:49

Hand over earnings to them? What about all the people they employ?

That is very much an oversimplification. For a start from 1996 to 2025, the percentage of the UK economy by wages has dropped significantly from 62% in 1996 to 36 % in 2025. Where do you think that money has gone? The erosion of the Middle-classes, the gigantic wealth gap. It is not sustainable or morally acceptable but who cares if you're rich hey!

Hallamule · 02/04/2026 12:40

Viviennemary · 31/03/2026 23:16

Ok thanks. So when there's no petrol at the pumps we can't blame the astronauts. But I still think its a huge waste of money and brainpower.

That's how I feel about fast fashion and energy drinks. Each to their own I guess.

ProjectHailMary · 02/04/2026 12:37

PottingBench · 02/04/2026 08:37

I'm not speaking on anyone else's behalf. Only my own.

Enjoy your solipsism.

ArtemisMission · 02/04/2026 10:49

Goldenbear · 02/04/2026 09:21

Thank Goodness the rich can escape earth, unlike the rest of us who have to stay on this rathole handing over most of our fucking earnings to them! Sadly, this kind of attitude is why people question the ethics of space travel- bad behaviour around exploitation of an unregulated resource by the richest of folk!

Hand over earnings to them? What about all the people they employ?

ColdAsAWitches · 02/04/2026 09:57

Goldenbear · 02/04/2026 09:21

Thank Goodness the rich can escape earth, unlike the rest of us who have to stay on this rathole handing over most of our fucking earnings to them! Sadly, this kind of attitude is why people question the ethics of space travel- bad behaviour around exploitation of an unregulated resource by the richest of folk!

But that's how lots of transport started. Plane travel to other countries used only be for the super-rich, 40 years later you could fly to Rome for a tenner! Things get cheaper as technology develops.

Goldenbear · 02/04/2026 09:21

BeebeeBoyle · 01/04/2026 10:17

I'm sure a couple of billion humans consider you living in a nice cosy house with a bed each, a bath and a shower and probably two toilets is overdoing it while they are living in slum conditions on under $3 a day.
But you would probably say that you've worked hard for your money and should be allowed to spend it how you please and that "it isn't a race to the bottom".
Well, that's what the super rich and bods at NASA think about spending their money on space travel etc.
Everything is relative and you being unable to afford fuel for your car isn't their problem at all.
(Oh and Amazon will just increase prices to cover the extra needed for drivers' fuel if too many stop on account of fuel price.)

Thank Goodness the rich can escape earth, unlike the rest of us who have to stay on this rathole handing over most of our fucking earnings to them! Sadly, this kind of attitude is why people question the ethics of space travel- bad behaviour around exploitation of an unregulated resource by the richest of folk!

PottingBench · 02/04/2026 08:37

ProjectHailMary · 02/04/2026 00:04

It may be a shock to you but you are not the only person on Earth.

I'm not speaking on anyone else's behalf. Only my own.

PottingBench · 02/04/2026 08:37

ProjectHailMary · 02/04/2026 00:01

Why are you doing that, then?

Because for a few minutes in my day I can.

Life's rich tapestry.

I just wouldn't miss it if it wasn't here.

EasternStandard · 02/04/2026 08:36

ProjectHailMary · 01/04/2026 23:56

That was awesome. I don’t care what anybody says!

Watching the clip now, a bit delayed so Ik it goes well but love the language of it.

ProjectHailMary · 02/04/2026 00:04

PottingBench · 01/04/2026 21:08

As I say if I die, I die. The medicine I needed today isn't available. The chemist can't get it. Hasn't been able to for months. I'll have to do without - that's with the internet.

Transport - Mostly I use my bike. Sometimes the train, but that's only for treats so I that won't be devastating.

Sanitation? I have a long drop lav.

Tools? Got all the tools I need.

Building materials? What am I going to build? Might need to repair stuff I suppose but I have done so without buying new materials for nearly a decade now.

Detergents? You might have me there. I'll just have to smell.

It may be a shock to you but you are not the only person on Earth.

ProjectHailMary · 02/04/2026 00:01

PottingBench · 01/04/2026 21:20

I haven't complained about modern technology. I've said I have no interest in it other than as a tool. I don't care if it functions, how it functions or if it stops functioning.

A privilege is to be able to wake up in the morning and see the sun. It's not tapping on a machine you paid for and arguing with people you will never meet.

Why are you doing that, then?

ProjectHailMary · 01/04/2026 23:56

That was awesome. I don’t care what anybody says!

HowardTJMoon · 01/04/2026 22:51

ArtemisMission · 01/04/2026 22:35

I was a bit stupid to rush and think satellites did all international calls. But they do help with communication. GPS saves lives. And some remote calls use satellites.

Funnily enough when it comes to voice calls cables are actually better than geosynchronous satellites. Geosync satellites are so high up that there's a significant round-trip delay. There's a delay with the transatlantic cables, too, but it's not as much even though the light going through the cable travels slower than the radio waves going to the satellites.

ArtemisMission · 01/04/2026 22:35

HowardTJMoon · 01/04/2026 21:55

I remember international phone calls in the 70s as my uncle moved to the US. At Christmas my grandparents would have to book a call through the international operator to speak to him because there were so few available lines. The cost was so high that the calls were always very brief and only a few times a year. In between those calls they relied on short airmail letters.

Zoom is so much better.

I was a bit stupid to rush and think satellites did all international calls. But they do help with communication. GPS saves lives. And some remote calls use satellites.

DamnBuster · 01/04/2026 22:32

We have to start exploring space and thinking of our existence beyond Earth at some point.

We'll be approaching a global population of 10 or 11 billion by 2100 and the Earth simply cant sustain those numbers. The planet is in crisis and we're running out of resources. Many parts of the world will become uninhabitable due to climate change and non-salinated water will be like gold is now.

If we dont start to colonise space now, we never will as it's never a good time. Sad but true.

Rachelshair · 01/04/2026 22:16

Well I think it's fantastic, inspiring in fact. Humans have wanted to go to space forever. It is one of the only things that unites us as a species.
Artemis II will have on board the first woman to go beyond low earth orbit. It will send humans the furthest away from earth that himans have ever been. How can that be a waste? It's an incredible achievement. You may as well say that the Olympics are a waste, or any scientific research that doesn't immediately have a payout. How about books and music while we're at it, what a waste of time!
People talking about "putting men in tin cans" and "boys toys" have no idea how crucial women have been to the progress of space science since the very beginning. It's sad and disappointing that women on here think space exploration is just an ego trip for blokes.

HowardTJMoon · 01/04/2026 22:16

PottingBench · 01/04/2026 22:06

International direct dialing to the USA started in 1971. It was expensive though for sure.

Yes, it started in 1971 but at first it very much depended on where you were calling from and to. Full coverage took years to roll out.

PottingBench · 01/04/2026 22:06

HowardTJMoon · 01/04/2026 21:55

I remember international phone calls in the 70s as my uncle moved to the US. At Christmas my grandparents would have to book a call through the international operator to speak to him because there were so few available lines. The cost was so high that the calls were always very brief and only a few times a year. In between those calls they relied on short airmail letters.

Zoom is so much better.

International direct dialing to the USA started in 1971. It was expensive though for sure.

HowardTJMoon · 01/04/2026 22:04

ApriloNeil2026 · 01/04/2026 21:31

yet even if the rocket didnt happen the money would be spent on other projects rather than the general public

Sure, because the thousands of workers whose wages are being paid by building and launching Artemis are not members of the public.

SpaceRaccoon · 01/04/2026 21:57

sittingonabeach · 01/04/2026 09:47

@PistachioTiramisu satellite or planet doesn’t mean we can’t fuck it up.

Fuck up what exactly? There's no life on the moon.

HowardTJMoon · 01/04/2026 21:55

ArtemisMission · 01/04/2026 21:06

55 years thanks to satellites and space technology. Gotten quicker, easier and cheaper thanks to it.

Satellites came in 1957.

Again. International phone calls. It got better and easier due to satellites.

I remember international phone calls in the 70s as my uncle moved to the US. At Christmas my grandparents would have to book a call through the international operator to speak to him because there were so few available lines. The cost was so high that the calls were always very brief and only a few times a year. In between those calls they relied on short airmail letters.

Zoom is so much better.

PottingBench · 01/04/2026 21:36

ArtemisMission · 01/04/2026 21:28

Shame you have no interest in technology, how it works and how it's used to better society.

Is it really a shame though?
I'm not stopping it. I don't feel I'm missing out. I'm doing no harm.

ArtemisMission · 01/04/2026 21:32

Londonrach1 · 01/04/2026 21:30

I know. With the fact everyone I know is struggling to feed themselves now the amount of money they wasting to send a large firework up is embarrassing....

Again it's a fraction of total government spending. Again the innovation and gains we get.

We had a big takeaway yesterday evening and DC were stuffed. We had some healthy home cooked food today for dinner.

ApriloNeil2026 · 01/04/2026 21:31

Londonrach1 · 01/04/2026 21:30

I know. With the fact everyone I know is struggling to feed themselves now the amount of money they wasting to send a large firework up is embarrassing....

yet even if the rocket didnt happen the money would be spent on other projects rather than the general public

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