How long before fuel rationing?

The gov can do what other counties are doing ,slash.fuel duty make public transport free , encourage at least one day a week working from home ,alternate number plates driving days , preserve stocks for essential service and so much more.

There are other sources of fuel, and wind and solar need very little sun/wind to work. But you will do realise there are other sources of renewable energy?

New Zealand

People here are also using public transport much more and taking to their bikes. That may well be more because of the price than because they think we will run out, but it still helps.

I can't believe that no one has replied directly @Bettercallsalli on this extraordinary post above but I'm willing to give it a go.

"I'm not going to be a martyr"... Come off it. Do you even know the meaning of the word in the context you're using?

I think since COVID-19 and the regrettable actions of the Tory government in miscommunications during lockdowns, failing to protect the social covenant by following up with explainers etc, there has been a rise in the strident, "I'm in it for me" vocal group in Britain on social media. It's the sort of "won't get fooled again!" mob, but very hardened this time.

You see it with folk saying "I'll never ever wear a face nappy I'll die before that happens". You see it with the fuel stuff as well, "No one can tell me how much fuel I should buy, they want us all in 15 minute cities" etc.

I'm not saying any of this is "ignorant" or that I'm accusing folk of being wrong.

I just find it so very depressing that some of us have given up on the social contract so quickly and easily, and are so keen to tell others as quickly as possible just how selfish we've become.

So yeah, I'm happy for you that you watched others behaving selfishly and you've decided you'll keep your tank brimmed every single day, and stock up on pasta and toilet rolls, just so that your not "missing out".

It's just the mentality I can't stand. "If you snooze you lose".. so the entire point of our existence is to get in front of the other person, ensure we've won the resource allocation game, and go home to our "Live, laugh love" sign happy in the notion that we've atavistically protected our cave?

I've really given up with so many British folk who think like this (and yes, I am a fellow Brit, multiple car owner, but a Brit who committed the heinous crime of living abroad and not owning a car when I did).

I don't like the way this country is going, so many folk extremely keen to feel like they're "winning".

Shhh. Inconvenient facts the so-called Nationalists don't want to hear.

One thing I know is that a few are making an absolute fortune out of the current crisis.

It's pointless to worry about fuel rationing as no amount of preparation is going to shield you from it if it gets that dire and going about stockpiling fuel will only make you a target for criminals who will most certainly take advantage of a dwindling resource.

Just carry on as normally as you can and hope for the best (it's all most of us can really do).

That link says that the 12% is mostly aviation fuel and road diesel, so the impact is only on those fuels. Which means the percentage reduction of those fuels is greater than 12%. For example say that diesel and petrol are about 50:50 and that the 12% was almost entirely diesel that would mean the amount of diesel supply lost is more like a quarter....... and it is the one used to move everything around the country.....

Why not? Because it is going to be pretty bad and there is very little they can do about it and who would want to admit that? Especially a gov with so little good will as this one.

You aren't going to achieve anything for 5-10 years, by which point the grid will have better transmission capacity so we can make the most of the plentiful wind energy in Scotland.

North Sea drilling is totally counter-productive? really? So greater energy security and protecting hundreds of thousands of jobs, plus tax revenues, plus lower emissions than importing gas is counter-productive?

We have to rely on ourselves,

Thank you!

<runs through the thread flapping and lets self out again>

You work as a support worker driving service users as part of your job and you dont get your fuel costs reimbursed?

Im not using my car more than I have to she is economical but obviously cannot run on fresh air

I needed to lose weight anyway

I hate seeing all the papers talking about rationing and stirring people up to create an issue they can report on. It was a pain in the arse last time as I drive a lot for work so need fuel. Also drive to lots of new places so don't know where fuel stations are.
Luckily last time I went to expensive service stations as panic buyers tended to avoid those and I have a fuel card. It just creates unnecessary stress.

No I don’t get travel allowance

For those thinking of storing fuel at home

https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/know-how/does-fuel-go-off-old-fuel-and-fuel-storage-questions-answered/

You'll be getting reimbursed by your employer I'm sure. Plus if they do ration they will prioritize for people in care roles who drive as part of their job.

Some people may cut back leisure driving because of the cost of fuel. Food costs may rise because of transport costs. I doubt we'll escape unscathed

Panic buying makes me sick.
Im a support worker for young adults with severe learning disabilities.
i need my car to pick them
up to do their personal chosen activities.
I love my job
I get minimum wage
i can’t afford to keep my tank topped up.
Fucking hell 😡

It has to be bollocks, Sainsburys bags have holes punched into the base, the fuel would just run through when she was filling them.

Drilling in the North Sea would benefit me personally and even I am happy to admit its a totally counterproductive idea.

There isn't a fuel shortage, there's panic buying causing localised supply issues.

Someone visiting their family in Glasgow from Manchester isn't going to make a drip of difference to localised shortages in Newcastle

Agree. Costco had queues at their petrol stations here (North west), and are now limiting customers, likely it's because they are so cheap.

Same as my locals Sainsbury’s delivery every day. But the smaller petrol stations are selling out as normally they might do 3 deliveries a week and every month they would have the odd couple of days sold out anyway, so everyone’s headings to Sainsbury’s and the they keep running out. Soo ahhhh panic buy.