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Are other full-time working families finding there is nothing left?

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fatface001 · 31/03/2026 08:40

Alarm went off at 5:30 this morning, then an hour stood on a packed train into London for the commute. We are a normal family: one child and two full-time jobs. I’ve always enjoyed working and have always worked hard, and I don’t mind that at all — but I do expect that full-time work should still mean there’s something left at the end of the month for a normal life.

But that really doesn’t feel like the case anymore.

There’s nothing left at the end of the month. Everything has been stripped back, all non-essentials have gone, and even basic things around the house are being put off or done ourselves because there isn’t spare money for trades. It’s just constant cutting back.

What’s hard is that we’re both working really long hours and doing everything we’re “supposed” to do, but it still feels like we’re going backwards rather than getting ahead.

When I hear talk about “those with the broadest shoulders” contributing more, I honestly don’t recognise it anymore in real life. It doesn’t feel like anyone in our position has anything left to give — it feels like the pressure is entirely on ordinary working households just to stand still.

I’m not looking for luxuries — just the sense that working still gives you a bit of breathing room. Right now it doesn’t feel like that at all.

Is anyone else feeling the same?

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Goldenbear · 31/03/2026 14:53

Pernayon · 31/03/2026 09:34

We're in London and I'm not seeing signs of everyone cutting back. People are walking around with shop-bought coffee cups, I'm constantly dodging Deliveroo drivers on pavements and the high street is busy on any sunny day. We still go to the theatre (we get vouchers) and that's often sold out. Lapland UK has sold out already. It's not the super rich spending all that money, although it's an affluent demographic. But it's not as binary as just the super rich and benefits claimants and everyone else has nothing left.

In central London many of the super rich are tourists that are the wealthy citizens from their own countries, hence theatre tickets sold out etc. Or even if you visit some of the wealthy areas like the Kings road, those who own the homes are not from the UK so it's not a reflection of UK wealth levels.

Summerhut2025 · 31/03/2026 14:53

OneShyQuail · 31/03/2026 14:39

But they earn far less than you?!
If you qualify for a UC top up your wage is incredibly low, the top up doesnt make you suddenly up there in income with someone on 30k 😂

So just because they earn far less than someone like me I have to contribute to their UC when they actually have more money than someone like me in the bank. It beggars belief how crazy that sounds.
Someone can have £15,999.99 in the bank and I have to as a tax payer give them some of the money that I earn just because their monthly wage slip is less than mine.

Once they no longer have all those thousands in the bank and they can no longer afford to pay their bills, then yes, i'll be happy to give them some of my money for their UC. Before then, they should be on their own and use their own money to pay their own bills... just like the rest of us.

RobinEllacotStrike · 31/03/2026 14:52

We are suffering from all the increases in recent years and its now impacting the cost of everything.

When fuel & energy went sky high a few years ago that would have impacted the cost of everything - everything is made in a factory, or delivered by vehicle etc. every cost going up at every level slowly slowly and then all of a sudden quickly.

we have had negitive economic impacts from:
Brexit
all that Covid spending/increased debt
then the shut canal with the stuck tanker
Ukrainian war
Now the Irainian/ME conflict
Increased taxes/NHS etc for businesses
etc

All of these events lead to increase in costs for consumers, & thats before we get to increase in taxes. This in turn leads to higher family spending on basics, everything goes up, and this sucks a huge amount of what was previously "disposable income" out of every single family it evaporates! poof its gone. Country wide this depression of disposable income must be having a massive impact.

Successive UK Govt have fucked us, left us vulnerable to energy shortages, left us carrying more debt that ever before, swathes of the country aren't working, so many workers aren't being paid enough to live and get topped up with UC, and we are not doing economically as well as we used to.

Tesco, (for example) makes many many millions in profit each year yet so many of its workforce will need UC to survive. This isn't right. Tesco & other porfitable companies etc should be paying its workers a proper living wage so tax payers don't need to subsidise their workforce.

I just had my 24/25 tax expenditure statement from HMRC - you probably did too. take a look at it. I paid 30% of my income in tax (single parent but I earnt £90k in that year - end up with £60k). its eye opening - 44% of the tax I paid went on welfare/pensions/debt interest. That is 44% of taxed income just keeping the country treading water.

Plus NHS, tax, VAT, fuel duty, etc. Its a huge amount we pay in tax to what increasingly seem to be incompetent govts.

Plus I have had to go private for medical treatments - geting my DD diagnosed with dyslexia and adhd so she can access support she needs at school cost over £2k just for the diagnosis. If I wasn't able to pay for private she would be out of school & probably aged out before she could get the diagnosis & support she needs. We have been advised she is probably AuADHD but I can't afford about £2k to get tested right now.

How are families that can't pay private getting on? How long are their children taking to get diagnosed? PLUS if we want DD to have medication we also have to do that privately (cost several £100pcm) as the NHS won't accommodate her private diagnosis or supply her with medication. All the NHS will do, if we beg & beg, is stick her in a very long line for support that will likely come when her GCSE's are done & dusted. Its a shitshow.

I'm having dreadful problems with HRT etc but my GP can't offer much help at all so I will probably have to pay privately for some proper advice if I want to stay sane-ish. I was referred to an NHS specialist and have to wait over a year for my appointment.

On my £60k in hand I still pay nearly a third of that in mortgage for our very modest house. We do OK but we live frugally. I don't often buy coffees out - certainly not like I used to. I'm not happy but I'm not going to complain about my income - we do OK.

For those saying their car is old etc I do think that there is an idea that we should all have everything new all the time. This used to be called "keeping up with the Jonses'" but its normal to budget your income, its normal to drive an older car, its normal to watch how you spend and not fritter money away on coffees/expensive lunches etc. There seems to be some thinking that this is hardship or punishment but its really not.

Kirbert2 · 31/03/2026 14:49

Violese · 31/03/2026 14:36

One of us would stop working and we’d downsize to afford it.

Would you be able to afford to adapt a property for your child's needs? Especially if you are talking about a smaller place? Wet rooms, extra wide doorways etc can be tricky in smaller properties.

Coffeeandbooks88 · 31/03/2026 14:46

Violese · 31/03/2026 14:36

One of us would stop working and we’d downsize to afford it.

Would you claim DLA?

OneShyQuail · 31/03/2026 14:45

Onadark · 31/03/2026 09:54

lol, yeah they ususally "forget" about the other £30k worth of benefits they get in the form of housing benefit, universal credit, free school meals, free prescriptions, free dental care, PIP, child benefit, child support, council tax reduction yada yada yada I could go on.

Ok so to get "free prescriptions and free dentists, free school meals" etc you need to have a household income of UNDER £935 A MONTH.

To get UC top up you need to earn over £1000 a month. So noone working on UC now can qualify for those things.

So the only people who get those things are households who have under £935 income a month.

Just read that. £935 a month. In total. Could you live on that?!

tiptoethrutulips · 31/03/2026 14:44

PolkaDotPorridge · 31/03/2026 14:10

I would hope not.

WTF is wrong with you? You think genuinely disabled people should have nothing beyond mere basics in their lives?

Luckyingame · 31/03/2026 14:44

REDB99 · 31/03/2026 10:52

You have chosen to have 3 children! You’ve made choices! You could choose not to work but you have not made that choice.

A cleaner and takeaways because you’re too tired to clean and cook 😂 and this is somehow unjust!!

I’m a single parent, got in at 17:30 yesterday, cooked a roast chicken for me and my DD, tidied up while it was cooking and DD did some school work at the kitchen table. Tidied up after dinner. Sat down at 20:00. I could have moaned about being out of the house since 07:30 and got a takeaway because I was too tired to cook and I could pay for a cleaner because I’m too tired to clean but I don’t as I have made my choices and it’s no one else’s fault or responsibility as to what those choices are.

Yes, exactly. 👍
Life is about choices, in this part of the world.

Morepositivemum · 31/03/2026 14:43

I don’t know if this helps anyone but have started putting the odd fiver onto gift cards so later in the year will be able to buy eg moisturiser. Have a fifty euro gift card saved for the local petrol station since last year ready in case have run out of petrol and I put an extra fiver/ tenner onto a gift card in our local supermarket weekly so I’ll have a cushion.

Summerhut2025 · 31/03/2026 14:43

youalright · 31/03/2026 14:26

But people on benefits still need to save for things like a new boiler, a new car (new for them) etc being disabled is forever they won't just get back on their feet.

I'm talking about people here "able" to get back on their feet and "able" to work and people deciding to have more children and then expecting others to pay for them or to have their wages topped up because they're a low earner, yet they have thousands of pounds in the bank in savings. It isn't people's jobs to help others save for their boiler or their new car. If they have thousands in the bank they shouldn't be getting a bail out from the tax payer.
I wouldn't wish being disabled on anyone, I have zero issues with any benefits going to people who are disabled, i'm happy to be helping them. I don't know what individual disabled people's daily costs may be to cover what they need or what they need to spend on care but i'm sure the system will be providing for them fairly in the various benefits that they can receive and the amount of savings that they're allowed to have should be fairly capped at what they need for their particular disability.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 31/03/2026 14:43

Lucyccfc68 · 31/03/2026 13:36

What’s that got to do with a thread about living standards?

Who are you to tell her what she should and should not speak up about. Pipe down you loony.

Quite.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 31/03/2026 14:40

Suncatch · 31/03/2026 13:18

The same JK Rowling who has been completely silent about the genocide?

Oh FFS.

OneShyQuail · 31/03/2026 14:39

Summerhut2025 · 31/03/2026 09:36

Yep I’m bloody sick of it! I have a really good job and live in an area where homes are reasonably priced, not one penny left at the end of the month. Yet people can still claim UC when they have potentially up to 16 grand saved in the bank! It’s disgusting, country is ran by a bunch of muppets.

But they earn far less than you?!
If you qualify for a UC top up your wage is incredibly low, the top up doesnt make you suddenly up there in income with someone on 30k 😂

eggsandsourdough · 31/03/2026 14:39

Fundays12 · 31/03/2026 14:36

I personally feel that as a country we should be investing far more im affordable sports, arts and music for young people and kids.

Thats very sad for your friend's child and a great loss or sporting talent which with better funding could have achieved huge potential.

The club covered the expense, shes doing amazing 😍

Fundays12 · 31/03/2026 14:36

eggsandsourdough · 31/03/2026 13:51

I agree with this, I was trustee to one of the sports club and we had set up a relief fund for parents that couldnt afford or struggled with payments.

My DDs best friend in the sport ( and hugely talented) her parents couldnt afford to increase the hours required for her to compete at national level and this was covered until they did manage.

Some would say what we do is a luxury, and right now yes i agree it is, BUT it shouldnt be.

I personally feel that as a country we should be investing far more im affordable sports, arts and music for young people and kids.

Thats very sad for your friend's child and a great loss or sporting talent which with better funding could have achieved huge potential.

Violese · 31/03/2026 14:36

Kirbert2 · 31/03/2026 14:25

and if you had a disabled child? As you've already said, there's no insurance for that.

One of us would stop working and we’d downsize to afford it.

Otterloverfrenchielady · 31/03/2026 14:34

hattie43 · 31/03/2026 09:16

That’s as may be financially but you don’t have the stress of putting food on the table , worrying about how to fund yet more council tax etc or losing your income / job . I’m not saying it’s an easy life but it doesn’t have the unpredictability of paying for yourself.

Do you think people on benefits don’t have bills or eat? Of course this is a concern for them
as for losing your income, if those on benefits are so well off, why would you worry about that? Surely you would be fine
take 5 minutes to do a benefits calculator and see what you would get, and then tell me it isn’t a struggle

MostlyChickpeas · 31/03/2026 14:34

PersephonePomegranate · 31/03/2026 14:31

If they're renting (because theyre disabled and unable to work), the boiler and house repairs woll be paid for by the LL. Presumably most peole too disabled to work would also qualify for a motability car?

Plenty of disabled people have mortgages to pay, and motability cars aren't handed out like leaflets...

OneShyQuail · 31/03/2026 14:33

angelos02 · 31/03/2026 09:24

I've thought for a while that if people are struggling whether working or not, it is a no brainer to just not work. The whole system is going to collapse if they keep taxing the middle earners while giving a 6.5% rise to those on benefits. It is utterly ridiculous and so unfair. Do the right thing and the Labour party will come after your money (tax).

But the people getting benefits get nowhere near what middle earners earn 🤦‍♀️
Ppl are here thinking about UC top up makes your income match a middle earner but it really doesnt. The UC top is for those working but not earning much at all. These people still have mortgages as well, pay council tax and have the same bills as everyone else

MostlyChickpeas · 31/03/2026 14:31

I am tempted to pull out the tiny violin for high earners because I don't understand where the money goes.

DH and I have a good life on modest incomes. 1 DD in uni. 2 holidays a year, nicer places now it's just the 2 of us. 2 cars, full fridge, a couple of expensive hounds... I don't have much to complain about.

PersephonePomegranate · 31/03/2026 14:31

youalright · 31/03/2026 14:26

But people on benefits still need to save for things like a new boiler, a new car (new for them) etc being disabled is forever they won't just get back on their feet.

If they're renting (because theyre disabled and unable to work), the boiler and house repairs woll be paid for by the LL. Presumably most peole too disabled to work would also qualify for a motability car?

OneShyQuail · 31/03/2026 14:30

hattie43 · 31/03/2026 09:16

That’s as may be financially but you don’t have the stress of putting food on the table , worrying about how to fund yet more council tax etc or losing your income / job . I’m not saying it’s an easy life but it doesn’t have the unpredictability of paying for yourself.

People on benefits still pay council tax and other bills which rise 🤷‍♀️
Those who get a top up from UC are suffering the most really as they work, but paid so little that they need a top up, but its so meagre and if they work more (if their work allows it) they lose their top up, so they are kind of trapped unless they can earn significantly more

youalright · 31/03/2026 14:28

IlovePhilMitchell · 31/03/2026 14:25

Send me your PayPal hun or go fund me I only spent £99 on my hair cut this month so I’ve got £51 spare for you x x

Thanks babe 💅

Julen7 · 31/03/2026 14:27

Lameelephant · 31/03/2026 14:26

Already is, they’ve exceeded expectations this time.

Fortunately they’ll be gone soon.

youalright · 31/03/2026 14:26

Summerhut2025 · 31/03/2026 14:23

If they have nearing £16,000 in the bank they have plenty of time to get back on their feet, they do not need to collect money from the tax payer to pay their bills, they have months upon months of a buffer there, possibly up to a year even. The threshold is way too high.

I understand some claimants won't have savings and that's fine, that is what the benefit system is then there for but giving money to people with potentially 6k, 8k, 10k, 15k etc already in the bank is madness. And they wonder why there is no money in the pot to sort out our NHS.

Wishing hard times on someone else just because they have an opinion on what their taxes shouldn't be spent on is hardly "understanding" on your part neither.

But people on benefits still need to save for things like a new boiler, a new car (new for them) etc being disabled is forever they won't just get back on their feet.