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How long until the License Fee is dropped?

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mumofoneAloneandwell · 30/03/2026 22:07

I reckon by the end of this year, it will begin being phased out.

I am sad about it.

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OonaStubbs · 31/03/2026 00:31

Marv1nGay3 · 31/03/2026 00:20

I would be so sad to see the BBC go. It employs five wonderful full time orchestras, which do a lot of outreach and community work throughout the regions, and the amazing BBC singers.There is nothing else like the BBC Proms. It would be cultural vandalism to lose all of this, in my opinion. If the license fee goes and is replaced with some kind of subscription service then all these wonderful cultural assets would not survive.

If there is demand for those "cultural assets" then people will pay the subscription and they will survive.

Marv1nGay3 · 31/03/2026 00:20

I would be so sad to see the BBC go. It employs five wonderful full time orchestras, which do a lot of outreach and community work throughout the regions, and the amazing BBC singers.There is nothing else like the BBC Proms. It would be cultural vandalism to lose all of this, in my opinion. If the license fee goes and is replaced with some kind of subscription service then all these wonderful cultural assets would not survive.

Tauranga · 30/03/2026 23:55

TightlyLacedCorset · 30/03/2026 23:21

The BBC 'left wing'

Oh that's really got me laughing my socks off, and I need them on, as it's not exactly warm here.

And no, trans/LGBTQ simply presenting are not either 'left or right wing' (god are we becoming like Americans for whom even everyday minute things, like what form of dairy you drink, or hobby you indulge in, is now left or right)

People who address themselves as such exist. Yes their personal views may fall within either of those categories, but they aren't 'Left or Right' in and of themselves.

A man presenting the news in a dress may not be up one's particular street, but it doesn't say anything about their political beliefs.

This is simply not true.
Transgenderism us pushed by the left.

Lonelycrab · 30/03/2026 23:55

Having said that

The thought of Geebeebies or Sky for example being the only thing broadcasted is probably bleaker still…
but FGS licence enforcement, give the average person a break would you

OonaStubbs · 30/03/2026 23:54

It is wrong that people are forced to pay for a media content provider that they may not use. The BBC is no different to Netflix, Disney plus or Crunchyroll. Imagine the furore if a law was passed mandating that you had to pay for any or all of those whether you used them or not?

AntiqueBabyLoanSmurf · 30/03/2026 23:54

I'm guessing that the TV licence will be replaced by an overall 'public media element' added to the council tax. It will be sold as cost-neutral, to replace the licence fee (ignoring the people who currently have no need to buy one).

Then, before long, it will be expanded and merge into a nationwide 'broadband infrastructure stability' tax (relied on even more when traditional broadcast/scheduled TV is scrapped soon). Once it's in place, it will quietly go up and up and up, with other vaguely media-related things cited now and then for good measure and to justify the rises.

Now that the PSTN infrastructure is being scrapped, monthly costs will (temporarily) go down for many households, as the vast majority won't care about moving to VoIP and paying extra to keep a way open for scammers to hassle them. The authorities and big business will already be eyeing up that money that people paid for landlines and finding ways to divert any potential savings straight back into their own coffers; once people are used to paying a certain price, the last thing they want is for them to get used to it decreasing.

Lonelycrab · 30/03/2026 23:49

I resent the aggressive license fee scraping tactics the bbc have

I don’t watch live tv and I find it slightly offensive the thought that surely everyone must do so…

I don’t. Now leave me alone.

Silverbellsandtacoshells · 30/03/2026 23:45

BIossomtoes · 30/03/2026 23:41

Thank you. So according to Hansard there’s no excuse:

provides protection at Members’ homes and constituency offices, and can provide security operatives for constituency surgeries and Members’ other parliamentary duties off the estate. It gives Members tailored advice for their individual circumstances. That includes security and situational awareness training, which is available to all MPs, their families, and staff.

I don't think it actually said that.

The MP that asked the question was told that the person with Mental Health issues who made death threats is now out of a secure unit and knows where he (The MP) lives and the MP has had to adjust his lifestyle accordingly.

BIossomtoes · 30/03/2026 23:41

Silverbellsandtacoshells · 30/03/2026 23:40

Thank you. So according to Hansard there’s no excuse:

provides protection at Members’ homes and constituency offices, and can provide security operatives for constituency surgeries and Members’ other parliamentary duties off the estate. It gives Members tailored advice for their individual circumstances. That includes security and situational awareness training, which is available to all MPs, their families, and staff.

Silverbellsandtacoshells · 30/03/2026 23:40

PottingBench · 30/03/2026 23:36

Your link is behind a pay wall.

OK.
I'll try and find another one.

Try this - https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2024-02-22/debates/CE7F7318-A531-4855-A23D-BEE37D17AD08/ProtectionForMembersOfParliament

OonaStubbs · 30/03/2026 23:38

The BBC should be scrapped. There is no need for it in todays modern media landscape.

TightlyLacedCorset · 30/03/2026 23:38

randomchap · 30/03/2026 23:33

I'm assuming so. It's rather pathetic

I've given them the chance to explain and nothing.

It's nasty.

I'd report. MN removed the laugh reaction for the same reason so then we all couldn't enjoy it anymore over a few people who don't know how to engage in debate respectfully.

AntiqueBabyLoanSmurf · 30/03/2026 23:38

PottingBench · 30/03/2026 23:29

Lots of people like the trailers so they can see what programmes are coming up. This has always been the case on BBC as long as I can remember.

I like to know if something's on next week.
I'd not be so interested in sitting through 60 seconds of crap about beans or Center Parcs.

I'm not saying they should never trail upcoming programmes; the other channels do this too, although they will sacrifice actual adverts (and that revenue) if they really want to promote something - the BBC want to have their cake and eat it.

Over the last year or so, though, the sheer number of trailers - often the same ones again and again - seems to have skyrocketed. Moreover the ones advertising the licence fee and the ones telling you how good they are, because everybody who watches any live on any channel is forced to pay them (not to mention the people who are aggressively and threateningly sold licences who don't actually need them at all), are intolerable.

TooPoor4PandaPooTea · 30/03/2026 23:38

Belgic · 30/03/2026 22:51

What are the taxes that we do consent to?

I pay tax because the law says I should do. I don’t do it voluntarily or from some moral impulse.

People who don't own a car, don't pay road tax. People who don't work, don't pay income tax (generally since some pensioners do) People who don't watch the BBC (or live TV) don't pay the license.

Do you think everyone should pay road tax because they use roads?

BIossomtoes · 30/03/2026 23:38

Silverbellsandtacoshells · 30/03/2026 23:35

Since when has getting murdered been part of an MPs job description ?

To say nothing of the criminal damage done to MPs surgeries.

https://www.ft.com/content/b9dae520-1713-4cc0-b205-3a5f46847f2a?syn-25a6b1a6=1

There are 650 MPs, the vast majority of whom hold constituents’ surgeries. It’s a basic element of the job. They’re supposed to be accessible to their electorate. Your link shows that the Speaker manages it.

PottingBench · 30/03/2026 23:36

Silverbellsandtacoshells · 30/03/2026 23:35

Since when has getting murdered been part of an MPs job description ?

To say nothing of the criminal damage done to MPs surgeries.

https://www.ft.com/content/b9dae520-1713-4cc0-b205-3a5f46847f2a?syn-25a6b1a6=1

Your link is behind a pay wall.

Silverbellsandtacoshells · 30/03/2026 23:35

BIossomtoes · 30/03/2026 23:30

Wise or a coward? He shouldn’t take the job if he’s not prepared to do the work.

Since when has getting murdered been part of an MPs job description ?

To say nothing of the criminal damage done to MPs surgeries.

https://www.ft.com/content/b9dae520-1713-4cc0-b205-3a5f46847f2a?syn-25a6b1a6=1

randomchap · 30/03/2026 23:33

TightlyLacedCorset · 30/03/2026 23:30

Are people using the sympathy reaction to be sarcastic?

Maybe it needs to go then, along with the laugh reaction.

I'm assuming so. It's rather pathetic

I've given them the chance to explain and nothing.

PottingBench · 30/03/2026 23:32

Catza · 30/03/2026 23:28

Precisely that. BBC is wasting money by trying to perpetuate the myth that people are evading paying a license fee whereas, in the vast majority of cases those people do not watch live content and, therefore, don't evade anything. Furthermore they waste £166 million a year administering the license and increasing the number of inspectors without securing prosecutions or bringing more revenue. This in an ineffectual system which does not exist in any other European country where national TV is funded with a combination of state funding and revenue from advertising. That's £166 million savings right there which should pay for, what, four extra male presenters or about a dozen female ones?

But you've said both "other countries somehow manage without a license fee"
and
"I'm not suggesting there aren't public service broadcasters or that they aren't funded from a state budget."

Which of those do you believe to be true?

BIossomtoes · 30/03/2026 23:30

Silverbellsandtacoshells · 30/03/2026 23:28

And he's very wise in the present political climate -

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgx9nyep7vo

Wise or a coward? He shouldn’t take the job if he’s not prepared to do the work.

Catza · 30/03/2026 23:30

Wtafdidido · 30/03/2026 23:23

They will probably go down the line of Ireland in that if a household has my device on which programmes can be watched or even has a tv in the property broken or not they will be required to have a licence. Whether you watch or not is irrelevant in Ireland. Just ownership of a tv is enough

20 years ago I was asked whether I had a TV license when buying a DVD player in Currys in London. Hopefully, we won't go back to those times again.

TightlyLacedCorset · 30/03/2026 23:30

randomchap · 30/03/2026 23:27

What's with all the sympathy reactions to my posts?

Are people using the sympathy reaction to be sarcastic?

Maybe it needs to go then, along with the laugh reaction.

PottingBench · 30/03/2026 23:29

AntiqueBabyLoanSmurf · 30/03/2026 23:27

Yes, I hate that too: all the constant 'non-advert' adverts. Endless trailers for their own programmes, for their other output, for iPlayer, for how great they believe they are, for the TV licence itself, party political adverts (I know they don't have any choice in the latter at the moment).

It does make me wonder whether swapping all of these for other adverts selling beans, toothpaste or Center Parcs or whatever would materially make much difference to the viewer experience.

Lots of people like the trailers so they can see what programmes are coming up. This has always been the case on BBC as long as I can remember.

I like to know if something's on next week.
I'd not be so interested in sitting through 60 seconds of crap about beans or Center Parcs.

TooPoor4PandaPooTea · 30/03/2026 23:28

PottingBench · 30/03/2026 23:08

The poll directly addresses one of the biggest issues with the BBC, politicians being in control. There shoud be no political influence or bias. I occasionally read a news article and they are always biased.

Haven't watched live TV of any description in more in 15 years, stopped paying the license fee after I had paid in full for annual license only to have never watched anything live that year. Mostly played games or watched movies/boxsets in my free time.

Know very few people who have or need a TV license. Plenty of children's TV on far cheaper subscriptions. Maybe it is generational.

Catza · 30/03/2026 23:28

PottingBench · 30/03/2026 23:17

So what exactly did you mean when you said "other countries somehow manage without a license fee"?

Precisely that. BBC is wasting money by trying to perpetuate the myth that people are evading paying a license fee whereas, in the vast majority of cases those people do not watch live content and, therefore, don't evade anything. Furthermore they waste £166 million a year administering the license and increasing the number of inspectors without securing prosecutions or bringing more revenue. This in an ineffectual system which does not exist in any other European country where national TV is funded with a combination of state funding and revenue from advertising. That's £166 million savings right there which should pay for, what, four extra male presenters or about a dozen female ones?