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To think we need a "label' in addition to SEND?

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ParentsToBlame · 30/03/2026 21:43

I've name changed as I work in education and don't want this to bite me on the arse.

I feel like we're moving towards needing a "label" for children who are let down by parents and aren't functioning at an expected level as a result. Not those with SEN but those who just aren't being raised properly.

This includes, but there's more..

Children who aren't put to bed at a decent time and are too tired to cope at school

Children who can't eat with cutlery / use the toilet simply because they've not been taught to

Children who struggle to manage anxiety, not because they have an anxiety disorder but because parents say they "have anxiety" and don't support them with coping strategies

Children who are overweight because their parents feed them a poor diet, not because they have genuine ARFID etc

The list is endless. Schools haven't got the time or funding to deal with SEN etc but staff increasingly have to deal with these things in addition.

They dont need to be "needs" but Children are genuinely disadvantaged due to poor parenting. I totally accept that this is sometimes due to inability to parent, rather than willful want to do harm to their child's development

I'm absolutely not a perfect parent. My 14 year old is currently shovelling crisps down his neck and watching YouTube (he has however played 2 hours of footy today and has done all his homework) He'll be off to bed in 10 minutes

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L00pyL00p · 30/03/2026 22:02

ColdWeatherWarning · 30/03/2026 21:57

I think "virtual autism" (delayed speech etc due to too much screen time and not enough parental interaction) needs to be talked about more. Studies also show attention spans can be reduced by screens, so that could be "virtual ADHD"?

Parents will go nuts if they're suggested though...

Virtual autism is not a thing. You wouldn’t get an autism diagnosis for delayed speech.

ColdWeatherWarning · 30/03/2026 21:57

I think "virtual autism" (delayed speech etc due to too much screen time and not enough parental interaction) needs to be talked about more. Studies also show attention spans can be reduced by screens, so that could be "virtual ADHD"?

Parents will go nuts if they're suggested though...

Jellycatspyjamas · 30/03/2026 21:56

What would the new label actually do for kids? One gets support because they have “SEND” through no fault of anyone and the other gets labelled with having feckless parents? How is that going to help anyone? And what about kids like mine who were failed by their birth parents and are significantly impacted by this despite stable, loving care in adoption? We know it as developmental trauma, but it’s down to poor parenting in their early years.

And what about parents who really struggle for a period and then manage to parent well, with the support they need. Are their kids forever labelled as “offspring of feckless parents”?

WoollyandSarah · 30/03/2026 21:56

ParentsToBlame · 30/03/2026 21:54

I teach older teens so see it from a different side rather than looking for signs. It's conversations.

Kids whose parents buy them multiple pints of energy drinks a day. Those who don't have toothbrushes at home or go to the dentist when they need to.

I know 16 year old kids who wear £200 trainers but don't have a toothbrush.

There's not much point saying that you can work out who is what at 16. How are you going to find them at 2 and target interventions then.

ParentsToBlame · 30/03/2026 21:54

WoollyandSarah · 30/03/2026 21:50

How are you going to work out who has a "real" issue and who is just poorly parented?

Bear in mind that the first theories of autism blamed the mothers. And it can take years to get a diagnosis of any "real" issues.

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I teach older teens so see it from a different side rather than looking for signs. It's conversations.

Kids whose parents buy them multiple pints of energy drinks a day. Those who don't have toothbrushes at home or go to the dentist when they need to.

I know 16 year old kids who wear £200 trainers but don't have a toothbrush.

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WoollyandSarah · 30/03/2026 21:53

Actually, we could just diagnose children whose parents can't afford a private diagnosis with poor parenting. That seems a simple way to sort them into the two groups.

ParentsToBlame · 30/03/2026 21:51

RudolphTheReindeer · 30/03/2026 21:49

No. It's already far too common for parenting to be blamed when children do in fact have SEND. A lot of parents of send children (especially neurodivergent ones) have experienced this. If this 'new label' happened even more children would go without the support they need when a school prefer to blame the parents.

Edited

I think i may have been clumsy.

I don't mean so the children don't get support - more that they should get it. With a different approach to send children.

SureStart centres used to support with this but most are long gone.

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WoollyandSarah · 30/03/2026 21:50

How are you going to work out who has a "real" issue and who is just poorly parented?

Bear in mind that the first theories of autism blamed the mothers. And it can take years to get a diagnosis of any "real" issues.

RudolphTheReindeer · 30/03/2026 21:49

No. It's already far too common for parenting to be blamed when children do in fact have SEND. A lot of parents of send children (especially neurodivergent ones) have experienced this. If this 'new label' happened even more children would go without the support they need when a school prefer to blame the parents.

newornotnew · 30/03/2026 21:48

Pfft. The issues you describe warrant something more thoughtful than just giving a judgemental label.

WiseSheep · 30/03/2026 21:45

'SEMH' is an already existing label that would cover this.

tnorfotkcab · 30/03/2026 21:44

It's called neglected.