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Was my request reasonable or was he right to storm off?

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Unsurree · 30/03/2026 15:29

I just don’t know if I am the problem. In a nutshell we bought raw bacon to put in nets to fish for crabs. DH was putting the raw bacon in while dd 3 was watching.

Affer he filled the net and put it in the water so dd could hold it, I asked him if he would go into the pub opposite to wash his hands.

He got really cross and stormed off muttering. There’s lots of moments like this and I just wonder if it’s me?! I don’t think it is but I would welcome other perspectives as he clearly thinks I’m unreasonable. For context I work full time as does DH but I am fully responsible for dd in the week due to the hours he works. I therefore try to avoid unnecessary risk of illness as there’s already lots of time off I have to take for sickness bugs etc and I thought it was a small thing to do to wash hands to be safe. AIBU?

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Yerdug · 31/03/2026 22:11

I would have gone to the pub to wash my hands and do what I was told. And then I'd have stayed at the pub. For a very long time.

BadTitan · 31/03/2026 22:01

shuggles · 31/03/2026 21:05

@RedWineCupcakes The ancient Israelites did not have access to parasiticides, vaccines or antibiotics.

That doesn't mean it's safe to eat raw pork today, or that it's OK to get an infection.

While I still wouldn't encourage eating raw pork, the reasons that eating it has historically been a problem are largely eliminated through modern farming practices.

This statement is categorically incorrect. Eating raw pork carries infection risks and it has not been eliminated by "modern farming practices."

I get the feeling that you're one of those people who thinks that "modern practices" is a magic wand that means that bad things don't happen to people anymore. On the contrary, modern farming practices have increased the risk of animals transmitting diseases (not decreased), so much so that antibiotics are routinely given to farm animals to prevent infections.

I agree with all you're saying.
On a side note, I recently interviewed a couple of microbiologists about the raw milk trend and one thing they mentioned was that they both had drunk unpasteurised milk on farms when they were children.
However, they said they absolutely would not do it now because, thanks to rising antimicrobial resistance, unpasteurised milk is much less safe than it was when they were children.
Many pathogens are now resistant to colistin which is a last resort antibiotic ie you are supposed to only use it when you have exhausted other antibiotic options. It becomes challenging to treat pathogens when they are resistant to all the antibiotics in the toolkit. If you have a healthy immune system you MIGHT pull through, but please remember that children and the elderly are more vulnerable.

Usernamenotav · 31/03/2026 21:54

Sorry, are we talking about a grown man or one of your children? I'd be annoyed if someone told me to go and wash my hands too. If I wanted them washed, I'd wash them.

Wecanagreetodisagree · 31/03/2026 21:27

sittingonabeach · 31/03/2026 21:22

Do the crabs count as raw meat too?

Live bait

no im thinking 🦀 💩 on your hands 🤣🤣

Wecanagreetodisagree · 31/03/2026 21:26

LittleMyLabyrinth · 31/03/2026 20:29

OP, I feel like if you'd asked him to wash his hands after doing something all these raw bacon eaters think is gross they wouldn't have come down on you so hard. I think they feel called out and so they're assuming you're a neurotic, micromanaging, infantalising, bossy harridan. Which, to be fair, you might well be! But we can't tell that from your post. Some real misogyny here, excusing nasty behaviour from a man on the assumption that his wife is henpecking nightmare, with zero evidence.

Hes an adult! Nothing to do with mysogeny

he had to go somewhere else to do it, breaking the fun - when hes just going ti be touching the sea and bacon and 🦀 again!

unfortunately when you treat someone like a child they end up acting like it

sittingonabeach · 31/03/2026 21:22

Do the crabs count as raw meat too?

Wecanagreetodisagree · 31/03/2026 21:17

PrettyPickle · 31/03/2026 21:05

I agree with the OP, if it once oinked and it’s not fully cooked yet, wash your hands with soap and hot water not seawater. The sea is not sterile because it contains salt! Seawater contains salt (which doesn’t kill most food‑borne bacteria), sand and organic muck, marine bacteria and viruses, bird poo, fish poo, human runoff… the whole buffet. Seawater will remove visible grease because the water movement helps, but it won’t kill or reliably remove pathogens from raw bacon.

Even cured meats like bacon can carry harmful bacteria, including Salmonella, Listeria, Campylobacter, Staphylococcus aureus.

Curing slows bacterial growth; it does not sterilise the meat. Bacon is still classed as raw pork until it’s cooked. Food safety guidance in the UK, US, EU, well everywhere, treats bacon as raw meat.

But hes putting his hands straight back in the sea with your endless list of bad things so wait till after hes done makes more sense

Wecanagreetodisagree · 31/03/2026 21:15

Booboobagins · 31/03/2026 21:08

If those who say you're unreasonable want to have raw meat smeared on them, then fine. But I'm 100% with you @Unsurree it is beyond mining to not wash hands after handling raw meat esp with a young child. The least he could have done is used sanitiser, but even that's afar 2nd place to a proper hand-wash.

Many numbskulls seem to have learnt nothing from covid.

Oh dont be silly - covid was a virus that threatened us that we had no defense against

He is putting his hands in the sea and on crabs - youll be saying he needs to wear gloves next

far more germs on a toilet door handle than on a bit of bacon

there is no need for all the mass histeria, and comparing to covid..well im gonna use that word..batshit

Wecanagreetodisagree · 31/03/2026 21:12

Strawberry53 · 31/03/2026 19:58

I’m really surprised by anyone saying you’re being unreasonable. Of course you should wash your hands after handling raw meat. I’m definitely the one to remind my husband of these things too but he wouldn’t react like that- very annoying making you feel bad for being perfectly sensible. I suppose at least he did it! I would bring hand sanitizer wipes with you next time so you can just give him one of those and might save the muttering. I do realise that’s even more mental load for you but sometimes you have to pick your battles.

But hes going to stick his hands in the sea and handle 🦀 doesnt make any sense to wash them half way through

Booboobagins · 31/03/2026 21:08

If those who say you're unreasonable want to have raw meat smeared on them, then fine. But I'm 100% with you @Unsurree it is beyond mining to not wash hands after handling raw meat esp with a young child. The least he could have done is used sanitiser, but even that's afar 2nd place to a proper hand-wash.

Many numbskulls seem to have learnt nothing from covid.

Umidontknow · 31/03/2026 21:05

Kind of took the fun out of it. Do you make him wash his hands after picking up every crab too? There where probably more germs on the handle to the pub toilet than the bacon tbh. Surely he could have just rinsed his hands in the sea or with a baby wipe while you where crabbing and then given them a good clean at the end?

shuggles · 31/03/2026 21:05

@RedWineCupcakes The ancient Israelites did not have access to parasiticides, vaccines or antibiotics.

That doesn't mean it's safe to eat raw pork today, or that it's OK to get an infection.

While I still wouldn't encourage eating raw pork, the reasons that eating it has historically been a problem are largely eliminated through modern farming practices.

This statement is categorically incorrect. Eating raw pork carries infection risks and it has not been eliminated by "modern farming practices."

I get the feeling that you're one of those people who thinks that "modern practices" is a magic wand that means that bad things don't happen to people anymore. On the contrary, modern farming practices have increased the risk of animals transmitting diseases (not decreased), so much so that antibiotics are routinely given to farm animals to prevent infections.

PrettyPickle · 31/03/2026 21:05

I agree with the OP, if it once oinked and it’s not fully cooked yet, wash your hands with soap and hot water not seawater. The sea is not sterile because it contains salt! Seawater contains salt (which doesn’t kill most food‑borne bacteria), sand and organic muck, marine bacteria and viruses, bird poo, fish poo, human runoff… the whole buffet. Seawater will remove visible grease because the water movement helps, but it won’t kill or reliably remove pathogens from raw bacon.

Even cured meats like bacon can carry harmful bacteria, including Salmonella, Listeria, Campylobacter, Staphylococcus aureus.

Curing slows bacterial growth; it does not sterilise the meat. Bacon is still classed as raw pork until it’s cooked. Food safety guidance in the UK, US, EU, well everywhere, treats bacon as raw meat.

atomeve · 31/03/2026 20:55

envbeckyc · 31/03/2026 20:13

You should take measures to remove dirt and bacteria from your hands etc… whenever there is a pause in an activity or you are likely to touch your face, mouth, nose, ears or objects that may harbour germs.

Incidentally, I guess an easy way to describe it to you is this, which is to treat potentially contaminated water / material on your hands in the same as you would after you wipe your bottom after doing a poo or handling raw chicken!

Honestly, I never wipe my bottom after handling raw chicken.

rwalker · 31/03/2026 20:53

when And how many times did OP wash her hands

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 31/03/2026 20:47

Im going to guess this isn’t your first and only request to him that he has perceived negatively. I would imagine you are regularly demanding he does things that you think are correct and he thinks are unnecessary and over the top.

ClairDeLaLune · 31/03/2026 20:46

InterestedDad37 · 30/03/2026 15:39

I hope he stormed off sideways 🦀 🦀 🦀

😂🤣

Unclench OP!

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 31/03/2026 20:43

LittleMyLabyrinth · 31/03/2026 20:29

OP, I feel like if you'd asked him to wash his hands after doing something all these raw bacon eaters think is gross they wouldn't have come down on you so hard. I think they feel called out and so they're assuming you're a neurotic, micromanaging, infantalising, bossy harridan. Which, to be fair, you might well be! But we can't tell that from your post. Some real misogyny here, excusing nasty behaviour from a man on the assumption that his wife is henpecking nightmare, with zero evidence.

Not sure why it’s so complicated. It wasn’t about the bacon. It was about the fact he was going to continue to get dirty.

if he was changing cat litter trays then washing hands after is obviously something you need to do (and I’m sure he would have done that) but OP is asking the equivalent of changing one tray, going over the road to wash your hands, changing another tray, washing your hands etc.

The evidence is that OP told a grown man to wash his hands (which were going to get dirty again)

She says he gets angry - I’m willing to bet this is not the first time she has talked to him like that.

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 31/03/2026 20:39

BeaRightThere · 31/03/2026 20:27

"Please don't be unkind" - do grown adults, married to each other, actually speak this way?

I don't blame him for storming off, sounds like you treat him like a toddler.

He could've washed his hands after crabbing which is hardly a clean activity to begin with. Or if you're so obsessed with hygiene you could've brought sanitiser or wipes.

Seems like you ruined what should have been a fun activity tbh.

Well exactly. It sounds like the OP is used to treating her husband like he’s a toddler

LittleMyLabyrinth · 31/03/2026 20:29

OP, I feel like if you'd asked him to wash his hands after doing something all these raw bacon eaters think is gross they wouldn't have come down on you so hard. I think they feel called out and so they're assuming you're a neurotic, micromanaging, infantalising, bossy harridan. Which, to be fair, you might well be! But we can't tell that from your post. Some real misogyny here, excusing nasty behaviour from a man on the assumption that his wife is henpecking nightmare, with zero evidence.

BeaRightThere · 31/03/2026 20:27

Unsurree · 30/03/2026 15:39

@CookingFatCat I actually said I would feel
comfortable if he washed his hands afterwards as I was worried dd would put her hands in her mouth. He then huffed and puffed and was quite unpleasant and said I was over the top and crazy. I then said please don’t be unkind I just want to ensure dd isn’t exposed to raw meat. That’s when he stormed off muttering

"Please don't be unkind" - do grown adults, married to each other, actually speak this way?

I don't blame him for storming off, sounds like you treat him like a toddler.

He could've washed his hands after crabbing which is hardly a clean activity to begin with. Or if you're so obsessed with hygiene you could've brought sanitiser or wipes.

Seems like you ruined what should have been a fun activity tbh.

Ophy83 · 31/03/2026 20:23

We always take wet wipes and hand sanitizer when we go crabbing. It would be a right faff to have to go wash your hands every time you put bacon in the net.

Tacohill · 31/03/2026 20:17

I think it was a bit pointless as his hands would be getting wet and dirty whilst fishing/crabbing anyway.

I don’t understand why DD was just watching and he wasn’t letting her do it too.
Then you could have asked that he washes DD hands, which would do his at the same time.

The issue here is you talking to him like a child.

I don’t think anyone has asked me to wash my hands after the age of about 8.
I would be very offended and angry if someone did.

LeopardStar1 · 31/03/2026 20:14

Up to you. I'm not a germaphobe but I draw the line at raw meat.

envbeckyc · 31/03/2026 20:13

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 31/03/2026 19:19

Okay again I ask.. if you are doing a dirty activity like this, how often should you wash your hands? Nobody seems to be capable of answering this.

You should take measures to remove dirt and bacteria from your hands etc… whenever there is a pause in an activity or you are likely to touch your face, mouth, nose, ears or objects that may harbour germs.

Incidentally, I guess an easy way to describe it to you is this, which is to treat potentially contaminated water / material on your hands in the same as you would after you wipe your bottom after doing a poo or handling raw chicken!

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