To ask what you think of this typical food intake?

You can't comprehend eating 2 pieces of salmon and veg for a meal??
A tin of tuna and salad?
Omelette & spinach?

Suuuure. Granted an entire 500g of beef is a fair amount & probably the worst example in her 7 days, but over a week it's clear her big meals aren't the issue.

I could easily eat 5 chicken drumsticks for a meal. I'm 5ft 3, 135-140lbs and I wouldn't think twice about eating a second meal. You're being dramatic

She doesn’t need that amount of protein (I aim for 150g a day but I lift heavy weights) but equally very little evidence that it’s dangerous (unless someone had kidney issues). If you eat too much protein it will get stored as fat just like excess carb or fat.

I would honestly try to develop a liking for Longley farm cottage cheese, !! Or grate30g ( it actually looks like a lot more grated) and stick it in a cheese omelette or have a cheese salad sandwich every day using ready sliced Gouda or low fat cheddar . You can still have cheese if you like it but just way way more moderate amounts as part of the meal, not Asa constant snack - I would ditch nuts Asa regular snack - maybe treat yourself Friday evening to a ramekin sized bowl , make it a weekly habit rather than daily etc

You say you have ADHD. The cheese is a dopamine hit for you. It appears you learned the behaviour from observing your father do the same with cheese. There are some links between repeating childhood activities either for trauma or dopamine reasons.

i think you need to get some counselling around your behaviour with food.

were you made to finish everything in your plate as a child? (By your father?) that may explain the need to eat one big meal. I’d be interested to know more about food and attitudes towards eating in your household when you were a child.

Your ADHD and possibly your fathers undiagnosed ADHD are influencing factors.

asking the internet to comment on your eating habits is one way of discovering how your childhood may be influencing your eating habits which in turn influences your weight . I think you need to speak to your GP about some therapy? That’s the first step to losing weight permanently.

No WLI causes hairloss on its own. You may lose hair if you suddenly start eating at a massive, massive deficit and narrow your nutritional range further than it is now.

Minor hairloss is sometimes seen on Very Low Calorie Diets but that counts as eating 600-800 cals a day for medical reasons and you won't be eating anywhere near that low even on jabs. Even then it can be mitigated with A-Z multivits.

You are probably losing hair currently because of how nutritionally unbalanced and deficient in micronutrients your diet currently is.

If you go on WLI, try and eat 2-3 meals a day with a balance of veg, fibre, proteins, fats and wholegrain carbs. Your hair will recover. Probably your skin and nails too as I wouldn't be surprised if they are also suffering.

Good for you. Well done !

I've been on MJ two years and have never lost any hair. I expect to take it for life as it's absolutely transformative.

You will eat a healthier diet on it than off, if my experience is anything to go by. I took dose increases very slowly - two years in and I'm only up to 7.5mg which is half the max dose. The weight came off steadily and my relationship to food is very different. Most significantly, it got me eating three meals a day - a regular, reliable routine of nourishment. That was most important for me, and sounds like it could be for you too. I used to skip lunch and binge on snacks but tell myself I'd missed a meal so it didn't matter. I think your pattern is similar.

You would need to drink plenty of water if taking MJ - your decaf coffee is fine too, but you would also need to be drinking water on top of that. You would probably not want the wine anymore - i can manage one glass, two tops now. You would need to make sure your meals include plenty of veg and prioritise fibre and protein. It's easier to do this on the injections than off.

It's also extremely important to do regular strength training while on the jabs to minimise muscle loss. Maintaining muscle mass is better for your metabolism and increases the chances of you keeping the weight off if you do come off the injections later. It's also very important for your health particularly getting older in the future.

2 bottles of wine a week is over the recommended safe limits for women (14 units). Binge drinking it on two consecutive days makes it more dangerous.

That amount of protein for a sedentary woman is absolutely not healthy and can lead to all sorts of health issues. Please don't spout rubbish because gym influencers tell us we need 150g protein a day. Only for weight lifters

@ivyball as others have said it’s very possible your hair loss is being caused/exacerbated by insufficient nutrients - your diet indicates that you are lacking in quite a few vitamins and minerals. As others have said, it would be good to get your health checked and you could include your hair loss in this.
I hope you can take steps to start a more balanced diet and get your health in a better place - a big step was posting here, so keep going in the right direction and good luck with it.

And I’m pretty sure a decent GP would have many questions before prescribing injections.
Sure she can go private, I just don’t think it’s ideal for OP.

Op there can be many causes related to diet that causes hair loss, but too much fat is a key one and can lead to baldness.The amount of fat you’re consuming is enormous. You will also be deficient in many vitamins and minerals, which will make it worse.

Yes healthy fats are good... In moderation!

I didn’t diagnose, I said “I think”.
I didn’t proclaim anything.

Oh op.

it’s not mj that makes you lose your hair, it’s the diet. It’s a temp thing.

youre losing hair as you will be devoid of so many nutrients, you really need to get blood tests done and have your liver kidneys and cholesterol checked, and you may now have osteoporosis and you could be developing issues like scurvy.

your hair will not get better till you fix your diet. The injections won’t make it worse, as long as you eat a healthy balanced diet and don’t loose weight rapidly. But unless you start getting some nutrients in your body, your hair loss will be the least of your issues.

i really wouldn’t be saying well I don’t want tnem if I have to go on tnem for life, when you’ve such an unhealthy diet and will be carrying all the risks of obesity. From cancers on, and losing your hair.

I haven't had any hair loss, I know a few people on the injections and none of them have either. If you are losing hair already then maybe see a doctor about that.

You can try the injections to see if it works for you. If you don't like it you can stop. You would need to overhaul your diet though. It just makes it easy to resist things, you still would have to make a conscious effort not to eat cheese.

I had full fat greek yoghurt with nuts and blueberries for breakfast, eggs with mushrooms spinach and tomatoes for lunch and a small normal dinner in the evening.

I think they mean that of people who have food addictions, this is what they crave/binge.

@ivyball yes up your fluids. Can be diluted juice if water isn't your thing. Do you like any fruits? They'll provide fibre fluid and vitamins. Talk to your gp about hair loss you haven't already.

Hypnosis may help with the cheese craving?

I hope this thread is helpful to you. Do you have anyone to chat to?

I think because most people would be constipated if they didn't eat fibre and the OPs diet has very little. On that diet I would be uncomfortably constipated within a day.

I am sorry OP that you are in this state. It seems you genuinely have very little idea of what a normal diet is. You eat a vast meal, most people couldn't eat that quantity and then continuously eat very unhealthy "snacks" all day.

If you can't bring yourself to go to the doctors then start by reading up on nutrition and what constitutes a balanced diet. Eat half the amount at meals and add in lots of veg and some carbs. Just to get you eating normal food before you even think of dieting. And ration the cheese to once a week or go cold turkey and never touch it again like an alcoholic. Tell yourself you are allergic to cheese..

It would almost certainly be cheaper for DH to buy a cheese sandwich from a shop or cafe each day than to buy 3.5kg of cheese a week.

Echo the suggestion for WLI. They are really excellent at tackling the little voice in your head shouting "CHEESE" all day and seem to have numerous benefits alongside this such as potentially reducing Alzheimers risk.

You can stay on a long term maintenance dose if you find yourself unable to wean off without regaining. I think they are supposed to be especially helpful for ADHD related binge eating.

I agree in moderation, but the volume of food in one meal is pretty large and the sheer amount of cheese and nuts is too much fat for someone who is sedentary. It’s just as ‘bad’ if not worse than lots of crisps.
As others have said it’s the amount consumed in a day that’s the issue, combined with a lack of fruit and veg. The OP likely needs support to replan her eating, more in terms of portions and variety.

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Let's not leap to telling the OP to ask for WLI. There's a lot to unpack from what you've posted @ivyball but I think if you can ask your GP for help there are programmes available where you can get psychological and emotional support to help you. In my first post on the thread I stated the cheese and nut consumption was disordered. That will be rooted somewhere and you should get help. Think of this thread as a first step.

Well done you 👏! You must feel fabulous?

Are you at goal weight?

is vinted your best friend?

You can’t diagnose people with eating disorders and then proclaim they can’t have injections, what on earth would possess you to think you can do that.

i understand the op said her husband buys cheese and it makes her binge for hours and hours, but she also said in her op she eats it sporadically throughout the day, and it’s a very controlled amount, 450 grams a day, and 100 g of nuts, which indicates this is not bingeing but a choice she is making.

No one bingeing eats the same set amount every day and staggers it throughout the day. It is not a thing.

She also said she felt it was healthy, she had a great diet, her family had tried to tell her, she thought they were being ridiculous, and she should actually eat more.

as much as her intake is deeply unhealthy, that does not translate to having an eating disorder, which is a very different thing.

there is no reason, that she’s declared, that means she shouldn’t try weight loss injections, as she is a ticking time bomb and as she has eaten this way for years, she needs to have bloods run, and explain to her doctor what she’s being doing,

there was one day in the week provided, she had literally no vegetables, just a half a chicken, half a kilo of cheese and 100g of nuts. Her foods are fried, meaning lots of oils or butter, often she eats 3 -4 portions of food in one sitting and counts it as one meal. Then she grazes on cheese and nuts, in her words, as she thought it was ok and she loves it,finds it very moreish, and does this sporadically for the rest of the day,

when she saw the responses, she declared it was her husbands fault, he is uncaring and she binges as he refuses to stop buying cheese. Which I am fairly sure will be a surprise to him.