Could someone please help me understand dhs mental health issues?

You said he had told you he had no recollection of speaking like that
Later you say he says he can control it sometimes.
So did he remember??

Sorry you've had this frightening experience, OP.

Why were you wondering if this is "deliberate behaviour designed to control"? Has he given you any reason to suspect this generally?

Hope you're ok OP.
Don't beat yourself up, you were blindsided and panicked, and it's understandable you were emotional too.
I'm hopeful you'll soon have support & hope hubby will be ok ❤️
For future reference, as others have said, 111 option 2 always a good port of call unless you fear for his or your own safety in which case 999.

Is your source ChatGPT?

The man needs and wants help.

childhood traumas effect us in different ways, its not something you can switch off, it switches us off if you see what i mean.
Mine is so bad i dont have feelings like other people.

Thats an american study on first episodes of psychosis.
Im going to stop engaging with you now, the actual statistics are there for others to see which is hopefully enough to counteract you downplaying the risk.

Is that of the 3% of the whole population who experience full on psychotic episodes? Or just people with mental health issues?
where the hell have you got this from?

here’s an actual peer review.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12662831

it talks about how they defined violence. Did it occur to you to discuss that when you hit me with silly stats?

Maybe find something you're a bit more educated on to advocate for.
Trying to twist a 5-10% statistic which you've found somewhere on google or made up (that is actually far lower than the vast majority of data) into being a 1 in 600 statistic just looks like burying your head in the sand.
General research is 10-13% with up to 26%. However even if we looked at the 5% you came out that would be a 1 in 20 risk of violence.
Pretending violence to others isnt a risk to be alert to is dangerous misinformation, not advocacy.

I'm sorry this is happening to both of you. I'm not a mental health professional, but I am a 'service user' who has had extensive childhood trauma and therapy. It sounds a lot like a dissociative disorder (I have similar presentation when triggered or under immense stress - which only became apparent after a massive breakdown 6 years ago). If he was aware that his behaviour wasn't based in reality, then it's less likely to be psychosis.

It's a 111 mental health call, not 999.

@Swellarella , it is baffling that so many posters have responded with such harshness. I don't think you deserve that at all. You were blindsided by a very confusing and distressing situation and naturally it takes time to orientate yourself to that and work out how to respond.

Also, you were the one in his presence and at some level you will have been making calculations about his safety and his needs. Posters here who have expressed such certainty about what you should have done have much less information to go on than you did.

You have done nothing wrong. You are in a very distressing situation and are coping as best you can.

yes out of the 3% of people having a full psychotic episode - which there’s no evidence is actually happening here, it’s just something OP asked for info on, and the only person who will know for sure is a psychiatrist.
so yes, it’s rare. I never said it didn’t happen because it does.
i love how you think my advocacy means I am a sufferer. I’d have gone down the loved ones route personally. But both would be wrong 😂😂

So you think 5-10% is "incredibly rare"..
My experience is with dealing with a relative and through my career.
I can hazard a guess at your experience from how defensive you are. Not everyone presents in a harmless way just because that was your experience, and it would be dangerous to assume everyone will get treatment in time or effectively enough to remain in that relatively harmless 90%.

Oooh I knew you were going to be lazy and make me provide the facts so here are some numbers to help stop your bigotry spreading

Around 3% of the population experience a full psychotic episode. Among people who experience a full psychotic episode:

• Only about ~5–10% will ever commit any act of violence toward others in their lifetime
• And serious violence (causing significant injury) is much rarer than that

👉 So if ~3% of people have a psychotic episode:

• ~0.15%–0.3% of the total population
• → roughly 1 in 300 to 1 in 600 people might ever become violent in that context

my experience is irrelevant and outing and not your business. What’s yours??

Hilarious, clearly you've got no actual experience. Psychosis is not just bad depression or feeling "out of sorts". The person is fully capable of doing things they never would if able to see reality.
And how rare exactly do you think psychosis is?

Christ me too

Yes this is quite common in postnatal psychosis for example. But I’m also trying to reassure/prepare the OP and that’s why I chose the epilepsy comparison. Someone having a seizure can definitely hurt you. You take precautions. But they’re more likely to hurt themselves. Do you see what I’m trying to say? Please don’t put words in my mouth, I said she needed urgent support and explained why an ambulance wasn’t appropriate. They deal mostly with involuntary treatment. 111 is more appropriate here

More likely yes, but not only likely to hurt himself. Its not uncommon for psychosis to lead to thoughts that others are better off dying with the person or fearing that someone close to them is a danger to them and plotting against them etc and then harming the person.
It doesnt always happen, but it does happen and isnt an extremely rare situation.

If I were you OP I'd report your original post to MNHQ and ask them to move it to the Mental Health board. Lots of people on AIBU are after entertaining themselves, often by shitposting on other people's threads. You will not get useful advice here.

Your DH is experiencing a mental health crisis, so you leave and call the Samaritans for yourself? He needs urgent menial attention.

I am not a mental health expert and can’t diagnose him.

Psychosis and other MH issues also look differently for everyone.

My family member has had a couple of episodes of psychosis and although she’s never changed her voice, she is not there it’s almost like a different person.

Although she was able to lessen it around other people, she could not hide it fully. Even shop staff etc could see that she was unwell.

However, I apparently had psychosis from PND and it looked very different to my family members.
I was able to hide it a bit but I also locked myself in my home and so technically didn’t have to see people.

Mine were hallucinations of people that weren’t there but my family member never had that, she would think that we were pretending to be other people and stuff or trying to kill her.

I would tell him to go to the gp and ring 111 or 999 if you’re ever in a similar situation.

It could very easily be dissociation linked with his childhood trauma but it actually doesn't matter what caused it, it was frightening for you. Imagine how frightening it must be for him.
Persuade him to see the GP urgently tomorrow to discuss his medication and what happened.

If it happens again, make sure you are safe then phone for medical help. If he falls asleep, leave him to wake up naturally, so long as you can see that he is breathing. And if you have guests expected, cancel them.

ah ok fair enough, I felt I wanted to explain what I meant in terms of my use of the word dangerous in this context.

She has the support of the 111 mental health team. He’s unlikely to harm her - it’s incredibly rare statistically - but it is a risk. I expect (and hope!) the nhs have advised her on early warning signs and what to do in an emergency.