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Six year old trans girl ‘tries to cut off her penis’ after Guide ban

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JonesTown · 29/03/2026 11:14

Quite a disturbing article in this morning’s Observer regarding the impact of the Guides’ ban on trans girls following the Supreme Court ruling.

It reports on the experience of one six year old trans girl named Emily after hearing she could no longer attend Rainbows:

Emily’s parents decided to be honest with their daughter about the situation, and explained that she was no longer able to take part in Rainbows because she was trans. A few hours later Curt said they found her “sobbing in her room” and were “shocked” to find her holding a pair of plastic scissors to her penis.

AIBU to find this a distressing consequence of campaign by anti-trans activists or is it a natural result of allowing such young children to change their gender identity?

Girlguiding facing mass exodus after setting deadline for...

Girlguiding facing mass exodus after setting deadline for...

The organisation is battling a backlash over new rules that will exclude trans girls from the organisation

https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/girlguiding-facing-mass-exodus-after-setting-deadline-for-trans-girls-to-quit

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Boiledbeetle · 30/03/2026 20:04

sunshine244 · 30/03/2026 19:59

That is a very good point and something I've noticed too.

<doom scrolling whilst wife labours>

Come on love push

<notices trans parents blogs>

Oh well done love it's a boy.

<baby gurgles and smiles at pink blanket on bed>

$$ Oh look she is actually a girl. $$

sunshine244 · 30/03/2026 19:59

RedToothBrush · 29/03/2026 23:26

Why do the parents ALWAYS have a blog?

It's so strange 🙄

That is a very good point and something I've noticed too.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 30/03/2026 19:25

NotAtMyAge · 29/03/2026 19:50

Most Rainbows and Brownie groups have long waiting lists to join, so I'm guessing the flouncers were soon replaced.

The win-win outcome of course would be that the friendship group, inspired by their friend's need, started their own mixed sex version of Rainbows that was open to both sexes, meaning that girls who thrived in a girls' only environment have what they need, and boys like the one who wanted to join Rainbows have a place where they can join in with boys and girls who thrive in a mixed sex environment.

But of course for people with the OP's mindset that is seen as a loss, because they only have a take mentality not a build mentality.

it is astounding and profoundly saddening that saying "I want what they have, I will build it here as well" never even crosses their mind. "I want what they have, they need to give it to me" followed by anger if their targets decline is the only possibility they seem to see😥

likelysuspect · 30/03/2026 19:08

ThatCyanCat · 30/03/2026 19:07

I was responding to the AI comments in general, not you specifically. Hence no quoted post.

Fair enough

I like to use

'AI says'

Like I would use -

What would Jesus do.

ThatCyanCat · 30/03/2026 19:07

likelysuspect · 30/03/2026 18:45

I know exactly what AI is thank you

It was a joke!!!

I was responding to the AI comments in general, not you specifically. Hence no quoted post.

Waitwhat23 · 30/03/2026 19:02

There's a very funny exchange going on on Twitter at the moment where a rabid anti woman arsehole is arguing with For Women Scotland, clearly not having realised that they are the FWS who were the appellant in the Supreme Court judgement.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 30/03/2026 18:50

ForCyanGuide · 29/03/2026 17:32

Its another marginalised group that is picked on by bigots

Racist = bigot
Homophobic = bigot
Transphobic = bigot

Comparisons need to be made so people can understand the hate that they spew at groups of very vulnerable people.

Genderist == Sexist
Transwoman == misogynist

Sex is not gender. Sex continues to exist entirely independently of gender, and therefore sexism continues to hurt female people entirely independently of who may or may not identify as a "woman", and that is why trans identifying men have no business in or right to the protections, rights, language, or history of female people.

HTH

likelysuspect · 30/03/2026 18:45

ThatCyanCat · 30/03/2026 18:43

AI can't think and just works with language probabilities. It's not the authority on anything.

I know exactly what AI is thank you

It was a joke!!!

FlirtsWithRhinos · 30/03/2026 18:43

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 17:30

My definition would be abuse, disrespect or hatred directed at a trans person because of their gender identity.

That would include failure to uphold or recognise their chosen gender and pronouns.

Oh that's fine, I'm happy to use neo gender names and neo gender pronouns.

The only thing I won't do is utilise any pre-existing sex-based language to refer to gender, because that's clearly misleading and confusing.

Sex and gender are different as the existence of trans people proves, so it's daft to call them the same thing.

I mean, start down that route and you'll end up with utter stupidity like male rapists being reported as women, small boys thinking they are girls, or adult men in women's sports, simply because of a totally avoidable language mixup!

ThatCyanCat · 30/03/2026 18:43

AI can't think and just works with language probabilities. It's not the authority on anything.

likelysuspect · 30/03/2026 18:42

AI has been captured, it needs education

5128gap · 30/03/2026 18:41

likelysuspect · 30/03/2026 18:27

Oh you're right I didnt think of that!

AI also thinks that 'sex assigned at birth' is functionally the same as 'gender assigned at birth'.

AI is an arse.

AI probably doesn't know whether it's coming or going tbf. Gender is the same as sex when it comes to which toilet should be used. But is different from sex when it comes to deciding whether a women has a penis.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 30/03/2026 18:37

ForCyanGuide · 29/03/2026 17:28

Weird though right, every progressive I know isn’t worried about trans people. They don’t paint them as these evil cross dressers trying to “invade female spaces”.

on the other hand, every roundabout painting, hotel shouting, flag waving nutjob is anti trans.

you might not be one of those, but there is definitely a correlation between conservatism and transphobia.

If that is what you genuinely believe, then it tells me many of the women you know are afraid to tell you what they really think.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 30/03/2026 18:36

ForCyanGuide · 29/03/2026 17:22

You’re right actually. Gay people as well! Let’s stop lying to them about fancying the wrong gender.

Boys should be boys and girls should be girls.

How enlightening!

No, a person fancying the same sex isn't somehow equivalent to the sexist and batshit belief that a "female" mind can be born in a male body.

That you even made that connection tells us a lot about how you see gay people though!

Accusations truly are confessions.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 30/03/2026 18:29

ForCyanGuide · 29/03/2026 17:02

This is a result of the anti-trans brigade asserting their bigotry in the guise of “helping children” and feminism. Citing regression as progress.

No mate, you’re not a feminist for jumping on the anti-trans bandwagon. You’re just a bog standard right winger asshole that lacks basic compassion and understanding of the differences between people.

The fact that right wing sentiments are skyrocketing in this time, reform are ahead in the polls, Rupert Lowe is able to peddle his racist shit with impunity. State of the world right now is sickening.

"Trans" is sexism, pure and simple.

I'm more than happy to be anti sexism. For a Feminist it's kind of table stakes.

likelysuspect · 30/03/2026 18:27

5128gap · 30/03/2026 18:24

First is the winner. Because gender can be assigned at birth. Frilly dress on your daughter and tell her what a pretty princess she is, superhero romper on your boy and brag about him being 9lb so he's going to be big and strong, and jobs a good un.

Oh you're right I didnt think of that!

AI also thinks that 'sex assigned at birth' is functionally the same as 'gender assigned at birth'.

AI is an arse.

FrippEnos · 30/03/2026 18:27

FlirtsWithRhinos · 30/03/2026 16:36

Now that is a sensible point. Why are the same activities not available in a mixed sex group? If activities are being split by sex so that kids of the "wrong" sex lose out that seems like something worth addressing.

But that's a different problem to "we should definitely split activities by sex, just my special kid gets to go with the opposite sex"

They generally are, but non of those mixed sex groups valadate the parents actions in the same way as forcing a group to accept a male whose parents are pretending that he is a she.

likelysuspect · 30/03/2026 18:26

AI tells me these are but 2 guilty parties in the UK, Im sure there are more but AI is getting all muddled up with the terminology itself!!

NHS Digital (Mental Health Services): The Mental Health Services Data Set (MHSDS) includes a mandatory data item called the "Gender Identity Same at Birth Indicator", which asks if a person's identity matches their "gender assigned at birth"

Public Health England (PHE): Uses the phrasing: "Is the patient's gender identity the same as their gender assigned at birth?" in certain clinical data collections.

Gender identity - NHS England Digital

Guidance for improving data quality in the Mental Health Services Data Set (MHSDS) and Improving Access to Psychological Therapies (IAPT) Data Set.&nbsp;Sets out the fields needed to be recorded to successfully flow and capture protected characteristic...

https://digital.nhs.uk/data-and-information/data-collections-and-data-sets/data-sets/mental-health-services-data-set/submit-data/data-quality-of-protected-characteristics-and-other-vulnerable-groups/gender-identity

5128gap · 30/03/2026 18:24

likelysuspect · 30/03/2026 18:01

I see your 'sex assigned at birth'

and raise you - 'gender assigned at birth'

First is the winner. Because gender can be assigned at birth. Frilly dress on your daughter and tell her what a pretty princess she is, superhero romper on your boy and brag about him being 9lb so he's going to be big and strong, and jobs a good un.

Boiledbeetle · 30/03/2026 18:19

TheKeatingFive · 30/03/2026 18:09

Even by their own logic, that makes no sense.

How can a 'gender' be assigned to a baby? How can a baby know its gender?

I haven't time to hunt it out now, but there was some lunatic arguing that babies pulling the poppers of their onesies was an indicator of baby 'trans ness'. Or pulling bows/slides out of their hair.

I will never understand how this nonsense was accepted by the powers that be.

It only makes any sort of sense if you accept that despite the oh but sex and gender are different things protesters the aim is to eradicate every single mention of the word sex in relation to males and female humans.

TheKeatingFive · 30/03/2026 18:09

likelysuspect · 30/03/2026 18:01

I see your 'sex assigned at birth'

and raise you - 'gender assigned at birth'

Even by their own logic, that makes no sense.

How can a 'gender' be assigned to a baby? How can a baby know its gender?

I haven't time to hunt it out now, but there was some lunatic arguing that babies pulling the poppers of their onesies was an indicator of baby 'trans ness'. Or pulling bows/slides out of their hair.

I will never understand how this nonsense was accepted by the powers that be.

likelysuspect · 30/03/2026 18:01

loislovesstewie · 30/03/2026 17:56

On another note, if one more person says that sex is assigned at birth, I am. GOING TO SCREAM! 😱

I see your 'sex assigned at birth'

and raise you - 'gender assigned at birth'

Catdoorman · 30/03/2026 17:59

I do wonder why the op chose the moniker Jones town, Is it a nod to the original kool aid drinking cult?.

loislovesstewie · 30/03/2026 17:56

On another note, if one more person says that sex is assigned at birth, I am. GOING TO SCREAM! 😱

5128gap · 30/03/2026 17:37

ThatCyanCat · 30/03/2026 17:26

I made a connection between the username and the content but it got deleted.

He's used two seperate words, so changed the meaning. Place in Jamaica rather than the reference. Like the way they do with transwoman/ trans woman.